All Realignment Talk Here

[L J S A]

Navy is more valuable to the ACC right now than us Joe.
Football games garner the tv money, that's what all this is about. It can't be repeated enough.

The only reason we would be attractive is if they thought having SJU in conference could somehow lead to nyc tv viewers transitioning to become ACC football fans.
That won't happen. So there really isn't an upside.

Well I just heard they added Tulane for all sports and I think it was East Carolina for football only- not sure of that last one

The Big East is getting watered down fast. This will absolutely KILL our recruiting...Tulane...yuck. If we can't join the ACC then it really is time for a basketball only conference of Xavier, Butler, SJ, G'Town, Nova, SH, Prov, DePaul, Memphis, Temple.

Memphis and Temple have football teams. They won't be joining our new conference unless one of us pays them tens of millions apiece to join the MAC for football only. I wish I had the billions to do so.

 

[bamafan]

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+1

 

[MJDinkins]

Cincy is trying to bail, and take Maryland's spot. They are attempting to get that particular spot over Louisville and UConn, per Adam Katz.

I do not care for Dickie V (he's doing the UNC/Indiana game), but he ripped those schools (calling it an "embarassment"). I'm in agreement.

Everything about all of this, bouncing around amongst schools, is so freakin' screwy.

 

[LINY89]

Something will be done...I'm confident. They can't just let G'Town, Nova, and SJ become glorified mid majors when the dust settles.

 

[bk8664]

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+1

Thank you. That really made me chuckle. I don't why... just found it quite amusing.
It's a simple, yet elegant response.

 

[1and1sju]

ACC presidents have a press conference tomorrow morning, and a vote on expansion scheduled for tomorrow as well....

I think say goodbye to Louisville.

 

[bk8664]

ACC presidents have a press conference scheduled for tomorrow morning ....

I think say goodbye to Louisville.

This whole situation certainly is fluid, isn't it?

 

[LINY89]

ACC presidents have a press conference scheduled for tomorrow morning ....

I think say goodbye to Louisville.

This whole situation certainly is fluid, isn't it?

Good! The quicker the football schools are out, the better. Then we can focus on bball.

 

[1and1sju]

ACC presidents have a press conference scheduled for tomorrow morning ....

I think say goodbye to Louisville.

This whole situation certainly is fluid, isn't it?

Good! The quicker the football schools are out, the better. Then we can focus on bball.

Right, because losing the #2 team in the country makes the Big East a much more basketball oriented conference.

 

[MCNPA]

Being reported that ACC will vote to add Louisville tomorrow. Crazy stuff, but I think we all knew it was going to happen. I don't think they will add Uconn nor Cincy though. Not enough value there for them.

 

[salty dog]

Now the Big East , basketball wise, will have lost Pitino, Calhoun,.Brey and Boeheim. If Lavin goes you
officially have a piece of crap.

 

[Rob Lenhart]

ACC presidents have a press conference scheduled for tomorrow morning ....

I think say goodbye to Louisville.

This whole situation certainly is fluid, isn't it?

Good! The quicker the football schools are out, the better. Then we can focus on bball.

Right, because losing the #2 team in the country makes the Big East a much more basketball oriented conference.

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Yeah, BEn bb is so strong why would they need Louisville. Southern Mississippi, anyone?

I'm wondering how the MSG post season tourney contract is structured. Is there a point where MSG can rip it up.

Paul to his wife, "Thank you once more, Mrs. Hewitt, for sparing me from being involved in the mess called the Big East."

 

[LINY89]

ACC presidents have a press conference scheduled for tomorrow morning ....

I think say goodbye to Louisville.

This whole situation certainly is fluid, isn't it?

Good! The quicker the football schools are out, the better. Then we can focus on bball.

Right, because losing the #2 team in the country makes the Big East a much more basketball oriented conference.

They were gone anyway...nothing we can do there. Let the football SOB's leave now. As I said before...I highly doubt that when this all settles that SJ, Nova, G'Town, UConn, etc. will all just be left as mid majors. The Big East will be all but dead with a few good teams left...someone will take the remaining ones and the leftovers will merge with the A10.

 

[doodyny33]

ACC presidents have a press conference scheduled for tomorrow morning ....

I think say goodbye to Louisville.

This whole situation certainly is fluid, isn't it?

Good! The quicker the football schools are out, the better. Then we can focus on bball.

Right, because losing the #2 team in the country makes the Big East a much more basketball oriented conference.

They were gone anyway...nothing we can do there. Let the football SOB's leave now. As I said before...I highly doubt that when this all settles that SJ, Nova, G'Town, UConn, etc. will all just be left as mid majors. The Big East will be all but dead with a few good teams left...someone will take the remaining ones and the leftovers will merge with the A10.

None of the big conferences are going to take on the non-FB playing schools. Period. This should tell you all you need to know.

Sources said there is a sense among league presidents that the ACC will vote to add only one member because the remaining two Big East schools have no other options and the ACC could get them later on if the ACC lost any other schools.

If UConn and Cincinnati are being kept in a holding pattern, teams like Georgetown, Villanova, and St. John's have been grounded. Listen, there are one of three ways this is going to play out. (1) St. John's will stick around in the Big East, accept the fact that its basketball reputation is completely gone, and continue to make money from the football playing schools (2) St. John's will break off from the Big East, accept a major financial loss, and create a Catholic league so to speak (3) St. John's will break off from the Big East, accept a major financial loss, and join a conference like the A10.

 

[LINY89]

ACC presidents have a press conference scheduled for tomorrow morning ....

I think say goodbye to Louisville.

This whole situation certainly is fluid, isn't it?

Good! The quicker the football schools are out, the better. Then we can focus on bball.

Right, because losing the #2 team in the country makes the Big East a much more basketball oriented conference.

They were gone anyway...nothing we can do there. Let the football SOB's leave now. As I said before...I highly doubt that when this all settles that SJ, Nova, G'Town, UConn, etc. will all just be left as mid majors. The Big East will be all but dead with a few good teams left...someone will take the remaining ones and the leftovers will merge with the A10.

None of the big conferences are going to take on the non-FB playing schools. Period. This should tell you all you need to know.

Sources said there is a sense among league presidents that the ACC will vote to add only one member because the remaining two Big East schools have no other options and the ACC could get them later on if the ACC lost any other schools.

If UConn and Cincinnati are being kept in a holding pattern, teams like Georgetown, Villanova, and St. John's have been grounded. Listen, there are one of three ways this is going to play out. (1) St. John's will stick around in the Big East, accept the fact that its basketball reputation is completely gone, and continue to make money from the football playing schools (2) St. John's will break off from the Big East, accept a major financial loss, and create a Catholic league so to speak (3) St. John's will break off from the Big East, accept a major financial loss, and join a conference like the A10.

No, it's not JUST because of football. It's markets and TV deals. Tell me G'Town, UConn, Nova, and SJ wouldn't get them more money in a deal. ESPN is behind all of this...you can bet they are suggesting what I said. If we are added as basketball only schools to the ACC it makes perfect sense. How do all those major historic teams become mid majors overnight? Sorry, just can't see it. Is it really that big a deal for the ACC to take in the last 4 major Big East teams?

 

[tom in salem]

ACC presidents have a press conference scheduled for tomorrow morning ....

I think say goodbye to Louisville.

This whole situation certainly is fluid, isn't it?

Good! The quicker the football schools are out, the better. Then we can focus on bball.

But we just added 2 football schools yesterday.

 

[doodyny33]

ACC presidents have a press conference scheduled for tomorrow morning ....

I think say goodbye to Louisville.

This whole situation certainly is fluid, isn't it?

Good! The quicker the football schools are out, the better. Then we can focus on bball.

Right, because losing the #2 team in the country makes the Big East a much more basketball oriented conference.

They were gone anyway...nothing we can do there. Let the football SOB's leave now. As I said before...I highly doubt that when this all settles that SJ, Nova, G'Town, UConn, etc. will all just be left as mid majors. The Big East will be all but dead with a few good teams left...someone will take the remaining ones and the leftovers will merge with the A10.

None of the big conferences are going to take on the non-FB playing schools. Period. This should tell you all you need to know.

Sources said there is a sense among league presidents that the ACC will vote to add only one member because the remaining two Big East schools have no other options and the ACC could get them later on if the ACC lost any other schools.

If UConn and Cincinnati are being kept in a holding pattern, teams like Georgetown, Villanova, and St. John's have been grounded. Listen, there are one of three ways this is going to play out. (1) St. John's will stick around in the Big East, accept the fact that its basketball reputation is completely gone, and continue to make money from the football playing schools (2) St. John's will break off from the Big East, accept a major financial loss, and create a Catholic league so to speak (3) St. John's will break off from the Big East, accept a major financial loss, and join a conference like the A10.

No, it's not JUST because of football. It's markets and TV deals. Tell me G'Town, UConn, Nova, and SJ wouldn't get them more money in a deal. ESPN is behind all of this...you can bet they are suggesting what I said. If we are added as basketball only schools to the ACC it makes perfect sense. How do all those major historic teams become mid majors overnight? Sorry, just can't see it. Is it really that big a deal for the ACC to take in the last 4 major Big East teams?

Yes, it is all about football. Basketball makes peanuts for college teams compared to what basketball brings to the table. In case you haven't noticed, none of the power conferences have any non-FB playing schools. The Big East was alone in this.

Why do you keep thinking ESPN is behind this? Because Marco Baldi said it on JJ? Trust me, ESPN is not in a room saying "You know what? With all of this moving and shaking within the conferences, we need to look out for St. John's, Georgetown, and Villanova. Sure, we aren't going to make that much off them, but we can't let them become mid majors." Come on, they don't care. We are irrelevant in this entire process.

The ironic part about all this is I don't even care what conference SJU is in. All I care about is the school's ability to keep Lavin, build a strong schedule, and keep recruiting strong. If they can do that, then all of this stuff just doesn't matter.

 

[bk8664]

If Louisville goes to ACC, and the let's assume the musical game temporarily stops - just for the sake of discussion - does this mean I now have to root for UCONN to stay strong in bball? With the reason being just to keep the quality strong of the conference basketball that we are affiliated with?
I might get sick if I have to root for UCONN. D: I can pull for geogetown and nova not to be bad... but uconn? That might be asking a little too much of a man... :sob:

 

[tom in salem]

If Louisville goes to ACC, and the let's assume the musical game temporarily stops - just for the sake of discussion - does this mean I now have to root for UCONN to stay strong in bball? With the reason being just to keep the quality strong of the conference basketball that we are affiliated with?
I might get sick if I have to root for UCONN. D: I can pull for geogetown and nova not to be bad... but uconn? That might be asking a little too much
of a man... :sob:

acc will have more defections.
yukon will get their turn.

 

[otis]

I understand the argument that in past years the "football" schools brought value to the Big East television contracts however given the fact that Big East football will now be composed of media lightweights Tulane, ECU, USF, UCF, Houston, Memphis, SMU it is time for the basketball schools to consider breaking away and forming a dedicated basketball centered conference.

Throughout this painful conference reshuffling process it appears that St.John's, Seton Hall, Providence, DePaul, Villanova, and Marquette have not shown leadership in shaping events within the Big East.