Alibegovic

I said it in another post and will repeat it here. Christian Jones played three games for UNLV and got hurt. It is not clear if and when he comes back. He is injury prone.

Are you a Calvinist? Because unless Jones injury was preordained its unlikely he would have suffered the same fate had he lived his life under different circumstances. He seemed pretty healthy last year: 25 minutes a game over 32 games. And even hopping around on one leg he'd be better than Alimakeawish and Darrien Williams.
Ive argued the same thing last year . Not that Jones looked like a world beater. But if there was one thing we lacked it was muscle. Could never understand taking Amar over Jones. Jones would have been gone after this year freeing up another scholi. He just seemed to fill our needs more.

At the very least Jones could have been Ahmed's wingman when he gets us into a brawl. As it stands now Ahmed will have to take care of things by himself

Don't forget Holyfield, he beat Tyson twice.
 
Jones was a starter on my All Time Softy team but I gave him appropriate props for improvement. No question we could use both maturity and muscle but I'd rather see our guys develop.

I'd rather beat Delaware State than watch Alibegowiz and Williams improve, as fulfilling as that is.

Ali played five minutes and had two assists and a rebound in that game. Williams didn't play. Christian Jones doesn't win us that game. He scored 8 points a game last year. What is your infatuation with him?
 
Jones was a starter on my All Time Softy team but I gave him appropriate props for improvement. No question we could use both maturity and muscle but I'd rather see our guys develop.
I would like to see our guys develop also.. But I think its imperative to show improvement as a team. Ive said this before , a last place finish in the BE isn't going to help us W recruiting.
 
Jones was a starter on my All Time Softy team but I gave him appropriate props for improvement. No question we could use both maturity and muscle but I'd rather see our guys develop.

I'd rather beat Delaware State than watch Alibegowiz and Williams improve, as fulfilling as that is.

Ali played five minutes and had two assists and a rebound in that game. Williams didn't play. Christian Jones doesn't win us that game. He scored 8 points a game last year. What is your infatuation with him?

He was a big that could catch the ball and occasionally put it in the basket. We do not have one of those. He is better than all of our remaining bigs. As discussed Sean Muto might be better than all of our remaining bigs but he was not pushed out the door in favor of Alibegovic and Owens. Jones was. Might not have made a big difference in wins and losses but we would be better with him than Owens and the guy who this thread is about.
 
Jones was a starter on my All Time Softy team but I gave him appropriate props for improvement. No question we could use both maturity and muscle but I'd rather see our guys develop.

I'd rather beat Delaware State than watch Alibegowiz and Williams improve, as fulfilling as that is.

Ali played five minutes and had two assists and a rebound in that game. Williams didn't play. Christian Jones doesn't win us that game. He scored 8 points a game last year. What is your infatuation with him?

Infatuation is a little strong. I just like like him. Because he's, you know, dreamy. That skin, the color of cafe au lait. And blue eyes you could go swimming in. And those chiseled thighs! But I digress.

Jones had half a dozen double doubles last year. He scored 31 points versus Providence in his last game - they had a couple of NBA players. Last year was his first year of organized ball in a how ever many years depending upon whether you consider the Lavin years organized, which I don't.

Last year's version of of Jones is better than this years version of anyone. He wouldn't be getting Williams minutes, he'd be starting and playing 25 a game and he'd be the fourth best player on the team by a wide margin.

He's a grown ass man with four year of weight room behind him, as opposed to the twigs we run out there now. He also has good hands, unlike the golems we run out there now. He also rebounds, unlike the girl scouts we run out there now. He's also an upperclassmen who struggled through some difficult times and might be able to help the underclassmen in that regard. If nothing else he'd relieve them of the pressure to produce immediately. He's not the difference between making the tournament and not, obviously. But he might have been be the difference between stinking and being mediocre though. Because the front court is awful.
 
A big plus of having 2 quick, penetrating guards is to get some buckets after dish offs. Sadly Yakwe& Sima have fumbled ball all too often on such plays. That discourages guards obviously.

IMO Jones would do far better in that regard. He may not be Charles Barkley, but he beats what I am seeing. No sense bringing Amar into equation since he parks himself at the 3 pt line.
 
I didn't have the time to read all prior 65 posts, but the bottom line is that they requested he transfer which was pretty much a summary of the value the staff though he brought to the court.

The mere notion that he is getting significant playing time is an indicator that our front line recruits expected to get major minutes or at least Amar's minutes either aren't ready or are no better than he is.
 
Jones was a starter on my All Time Softy team but I gave him appropriate props for improvement. No question we could use both maturity and muscle but I'd rather see our guys develop.

I'd rather beat Delaware State than watch Alibegowiz and Williams improve, as fulfilling as that is.

Ali played five minutes and had two assists and a rebound in that game. Williams didn't play. Christian Jones doesn't win us that game. He scored 8 points a game last year. What is your infatuation with him?

Infatuation is a little strong. I just like like him. Because he's, you know, dreamy. That skin, the color of cafe au lait. And blue eyes you could go swimming in. And those chiseled thighs! But I digress.

Jones had half a dozen double doubles last year. He scored 31 points versus Providence in his last game - they had a couple of NBA players. Last year was his first year of organized ball in a how ever many years depending upon whether you consider the Lavin years organized, which I don't.

Last year's version of of Jones is better than this years version of anyone. He wouldn't be getting Williams minutes, he'd be starting and playing 25 a game and he'd be the fourth best player on the team by a wide margin.

He's a grown ass man with four year of weight room behind him, as opposed to the twigs we run out there now. He also has good hands, unlike the golems we run out there now. He also rebounds, unlike the girl scouts we run out there now. He's also an upperclassmen who struggled through some difficult times and might be able to help the underclassmen in that regard. If nothing else he'd relieve them of the pressure to produce immediately. He's not the difference between making the tournament and not, obviously. But he might have been be the difference between stinking and being mediocre though. Because the front court is awful.

You're a pretty [strike]wise ass [/strike]smart guy. If Jones is not the difference between a rock and a hard place, then screw the extra 3 wins he may have facilitated! Why are we harping on two of Steve Lavin's "lesser" recruits when Matt Abulstairmaster has recruited that awful front line to play for the greatest player that never coached CYO and said awful front court that obviously needed a master teacher as a coach this side of Bradley Kent Stevens. Maybe the recruiting really stinks as much as the coaching and we need to dwell on two shitty Lavin recruits to deflect from the real dilemma, i.e., are these caliber players ever going to develop under a coach whose time out speech consists of two words....keep grinding?
If we lose to a crappy Fordham team tonight my vote goes to Ron Linfont to coach the team because Ron's been around coaching all his life and the kids all love him. Fire the kid coach Jimmy Olsen, let Mullin be the General Manager and let Matt continue coaching the big men. What would we have to lose that we haven't lost already.
 
I didn't have the time to read all prior 65 posts, but the bottom line is that they requested he transfer which was pretty much a summary of the value the staff though he brought to the court.

The mere notion that he is getting significant playing time is an indicator that our front line recruits expected to get major minutes or at least Amar's minutes either aren't ready or are no better than he is.

Wrong. Jones graduated. He wanted playing minutes that the staff would not guarantee because they thought Yakwe would read "Basketball for Dummies" over the summer and Bashir Ahmed was a lock at the 3 position. With Owens and the great white hope also coming on board Jones took his 8 points per game elsewhere. Good for him and bad for us because Mullin's recruits, except for Ponds, have been awful according to that funny guy.
The guy the staff asked to look at more academically challenging institutions was Alibegovic but he would have ridden the bench at Harvard also as their front line is not God awful like ours.
 
You're a pretty [strike]wise ass [/strike]smart guy.

That [strike]strike through[/strike] thing you've started doing is hilarious! How did you ever think of it?

Matt Abulstairmaster .

Hilarious how you spelled his name wrong! How did you ever think to do it?

I didn't bother reading the rest of it but no doubt it was just as clever.
 
Jones was a starter on my All Time Softy team but I gave him appropriate props for improvement. No question we could use both maturity and muscle but I'd rather see our guys develop.

I'd rather beat Delaware State than watch Alibegowiz and Williams improve, as fulfilling as that is.

Ali played five minutes and had two assists and a rebound in that game. Williams didn't play. Christian Jones doesn't win us that game. He scored 8 points a game last year. What is your infatuation with him?

He was a big that could catch the ball and occasionally put it in the basket. We do not have one of those. He is better than all of our remaining bigs. As discussed Sean Muto might be better than all of our remaining bigs but he was not pushed out the door in favor of Alibegovic and Owens. Jones was. Might not have made a big difference in wins and losses but we would be better with him than Owens and the guy who this thread is about.

The grass is NOT always greener. Funny some of the same guys loving Jones now that he is gone, used to knock him in particular his stone hands.
 
You're a pretty [strike]wise ass [/strike]smart guy.

That [strike]strike through[/strike] thing you've started doing is hilarious! How did you ever think of it?

Matt Abulstairmaster .

Hilarious how you spelled his name wrong! How did you ever think to do it?

I didn't bother reading the rest of it but no doubt it was just as clever.

I would have mentioned the "wheel" somewhere in my fabulous post but you already invented that thing and a whole bunch of polysyllabic words that none of us of the plebeian class of 72 could ever think of on our own.

And I am sure you not only read the rest but read it twice! ;)
 
Jones was a starter on my All Time Softy team but I gave him appropriate props for improvement. No question we could use both maturity and muscle but I'd rather see our guys develop.

I'd rather beat Delaware State than watch Alibegowiz and Williams improve, as fulfilling as that is.

Ali played five minutes and had two assists and a rebound in that game. Williams didn't play. Christian Jones doesn't win us that game. He scored 8 points a game last year. What is your infatuation with him?

Infatuation is a little strong. I just like like him. Because he's, you know, dreamy. That skin, the color of cafe au lait. And blue eyes you could go swimming in. And those chiseled thighs! But I digress.

Jones had half a dozen double doubles last year. He scored 31 points versus Providence in his last game - they had a couple of NBA players. Last year was his first year of organized ball in a how ever many years depending upon whether you consider the Lavin years organized, which I don't.

Last year's version of of Jones is better than this years version of anyone. He wouldn't be getting Williams minutes, he'd be starting and playing 25 a game and he'd be the fourth best player on the team by a wide margin.

He's a grown ass man with four year of weight room behind him, as opposed to the twigs we run out there now. He also has good hands, unlike the golems we run out there now. He also rebounds, unlike the girl scouts we run out there now. He's also an upperclassmen who struggled through some difficult times and might be able to help the underclassmen in that regard. If nothing else he'd relieve them of the pressure to produce immediately. He's not the difference between making the tournament and not, obviously. But he might have been be the difference between stinking and being mediocre though. Because the front court is awful.

I thought Larry Wright to be the most dreamy Johnny but otherwise I totally agree with everything else
 
I want to go on record that I read's Fun's game recaps and look forward to them. I just don't agree on Jones.
 
Jones was a starter on my All Time Softy team but I gave him appropriate props for improvement. No question we could use both maturity and muscle but I'd rather see our guys develop.

I'd rather beat Delaware State than watch Alibegowiz and Williams improve, as fulfilling as that is.

Ali played five minutes and had two assists and a rebound in that game. Williams didn't play. Christian Jones doesn't win us that game. He scored 8 points a game last year. What is your infatuation with him?

Infatuation is a little strong. I just like like him. Because he's, you know, dreamy. That skin, the color of cafe au lait. And blue eyes you could go swimming in. And those chiseled thighs! But I digress.

Jones had half a dozen double doubles last year. He scored 31 points versus Providence in his last game - they had a couple of NBA players. Last year was his first year of organized ball in a how ever many years depending upon whether you consider the Lavin years organized, which I don't.

Last year's version of of Jones is better than this years version of anyone. He wouldn't be getting Williams minutes, he'd be starting and playing 25 a game and he'd be the fourth best player on the team by a wide margin.

He's a grown ass man with four year of weight room behind him, as opposed to the twigs we run out there now. He also has good hands, unlike the golems we run out there now. He also rebounds, unlike the girl scouts we run out there now. He's also an upperclassmen who struggled through some difficult times and might be able to help the underclassmen in that regard. If nothing else he'd relieve them of the pressure to produce immediately. He's not the difference between making the tournament and not, obviously. But he might have been be the difference between stinking and being mediocre though. Because the front court is awful.

I thought Larry Wright to be the most dreamy Johnny but otherwise I totally agree with everything else
Of course you do, you share a basement apartment with Fun in his mother's house. Only difference is you have to pay rent. ;) :)
 
The bottom line is this is a thread about nothing. Neither Ali or CJ are D1 level players or difference makers. Both seem like good kids and we should probably leave it at that.
 
The bottom line is this is a thread about nothing. Neither Ali or CJ are D1 level players or difference makers. Both seem like good kids and we should probably leave it at that.

Amar had 8 boards tonight in 18 minutes. I will take that every night from him and any of our other forwards and be delighted.
 
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