Alibegovic

[paultzman]

I don't get all the Alibegovic hate. The kid plays his heart out on the court and is always invested in the game from the bench. That attitude is exactly what I want from one of the last guys on the bench. He's not a great player, we all know that. He is serviceable though, the expectations just need to be toned down. The real let down thus far has been Sima's play. I'm glad Ali B's on the team this year.

Agree with all your points but believe the negativity toward Ali is based on his propensity to frequently hoist up 3 point shots while hitting them at an alarmingly low rate often times immediately upon entering the game. Perhaps if he could be a bit more humble he would actually be a crowd favorite based upon the energy and hustle he brings and the enthusiasm he displays while on the bench. (Or just make the 3s at a much higher rate).

Or shoot less 3s and develop his inside game. We are going to need that w Sima gone.

Would expect Matt to dunk a basketball before Amar looks to shoot less threes.

 

[beast of the east]

I don't get all the Alibegovic hate. The kid plays his heart out on the court and is always invested in the game from the bench. That attitude is exactly what I want from one of the last guys on the bench. He's not a great player, we all know that. He is serviceable though, the expectations just need to be toned down. The real let down thus far has been Sima's play. I'm glad Ali B's on the team this year.

Agree with all your points but believe the negativity toward Ali is based on his propensity to frequently hoist up 3 point shots while hitting them at an alarmingly low rate often times immediately upon entering the game. Perhaps if he could be a bit more humble he would actually be a crowd favorite based upon the energy and hustle he brings and the enthusiasm he displays while on the bench. (Or just make the 3s at a much higher rate).

Or shoot less 3s and develop his inside game. We are going to need that w Sima gone.

Would expect Matt to dunk a basketball before Amar looks to shoot less threes.

He doesn't have to take less threes in my opinion - just make more of them. Perhaps taking a 1/2 second to square up.

When I watch this kid in person during games, he's exactly the kind of kid I'd want on any team. He's a great teammate, a great team spirit guy, and whether he contributes in the stat line or not, he's just a lot of fun in the college game because his attitude is a refreshing break from how pros approach the game.

 

[JohnnyFan]

Last night after the game, AA was running back into the tunnel and jumped to touch the ceiling, slipped and twisted his knee, bashed head into fire extinguisher, and needs stitches.

-anonymous source

I knew something happened, but wasn't sure what it was. Just before Mullin was interviewed (post game), Mitch came out and told Mullin something. Mullin looked incredulous and said....."Amar?"

 

[RedStormNC]

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Last night after the game, AA was running back into the tunnel and jumped to touch the ceiling, slipped and twisted his knee, bashed head into fire extinguisher, and needs stitches.

-anonymous source

 

[L J S A]

You AA haters need to learn to love him because Sima leaving now opens a spot for him to remain next season. :lol:

 

[1and1sju]

The Ali love is getting a little out of hand. I understand what Beast and others are saying: the kid plays hard and cheers on his teammates. He even demonstrates leadership on the court.

Unfortunately his intangibles are about the sixth or seventh most desirable attribute for a basketball player after shooting ability, defense, ball handling, rebounding etc.

He is an 18% 3pt shooter right now. So he certainly needs to make more and take less shots. But we're also talking about a guy who is a career 50% foul shooter. So I'm not sure why anyone expects him to consistently drain 3s. He's not a shooter.

He also isn't a good defender and turns the ball over. So all in all, we need more from him. He just became our 7th man give or take. He's going to need to backup both Yakwe and Owens. Because even with his weaknesses I think I still prefer AA over RI chard F at this point.

Hopefully Amar makes the most of this oppertunity.
Also .. in regards to cracking his head open on a fire extinguisher ... wtf? Come on man

 

[1and1sju]

Also.. let's hope his knee is alright. Good grief. That's the last thing we need, our new backup tearing up his knee in the hallway of Carnesseca arena.

 

[Delaware]

What a numscald. And now he has a larger role. Just great.

 

[OLV72]

I think he just needs to step back about 5 feet before launching his shots.

 

[Andrew]

I don't get all the Alibegovic hate. The kid plays his heart out on the court and is always invested in the game from the bench. That attitude is exactly what I want from one of the last guys on the bench. He's not a great player, we all know that. He is serviceable though, the expectations just need to be toned down. The real let down thus far has been Sima's play. I'm glad Ali B's on the team this year.

Agree with all your points but believe the negativity toward Ali is based on his propensity to frequently hoist up 3 point shots while hitting them at an alarmingly low rate often times immediately upon entering the game. Perhaps if he could be a bit more humble he would actually be a crowd favorite based upon the energy and hustle he brings and the enthusiasm he displays while on the bench. (Or just make the 3s at a much higher rate).

Or shoot less 3s and develop his inside game. We are going to need that w Sima gone.

Would expect Matt to dunk a basketball before Amar looks to shoot less threes.

He doesn't have to take less threes in my opinion - just make more of them. Perhaps taking a 1/2 second to square up.

When I watch this kid in person during games, he's exactly the kind of kid I'd want on any team. He's a great teammate, a great team spirit guy, and whether he contributes in the stat line or not, he's just a lot of fun in the college game because his attitude is a refreshing break from how pros approach the game.

I agree with you about the effort Amar brings. The problem is it rarely has translated to the basketball court. He is a 38% shooter, a 28% 3 point shooter and a 53% free throw shooter since arriving in Queens. He is a big man version of Malik Ellison. Ellison the better passer and Amar the slightly better rebounder. If he could bottle what he did in last years Syracuse game every once in a while then we might have something. I hope he can step it up.

 

[redken]

I don't get all the Alibegovic hate. The kid plays his heart out on the court and is always invested in the game from the bench. That attitude is exactly what I want from one of the last guys on the bench. He's not a great player, we all know that. He is serviceable though, the expectations just need to be toned down. The real let down thus far has been Sima's play. I'm glad Ali B's on the team this year.

Agree with all your points but believe the negativity toward Ali is based on his propensity to frequently hoist up 3 point shots while hitting them at an alarmingly low rate often times immediately upon entering the game. Perhaps if he could be a bit more humble he would actually be a crowd favorite based upon the energy and hustle he brings and the enthusiasm he displays while on the bench. (Or just make the 3s at a much higher rate).

Or shoot less 3s and develop his inside game. We are going to need that w Sima gone.

Would expect Matt to dunk a basketball before Amar looks to shoot less threes.

He doesn't have to take less threes in my opinion - just make more of them. Perhaps taking a 1/2 second to square up.

When I watch this kid in person during games, he's exactly the kind of kid I'd want on any team. He's a great teammate, a great team spirit guy, and whether he contributes in the stat line or not, he's just a lot of fun in the college game because his attitude is a refreshing break from how pros approach the game.

I agree with you about the effort Amar brings. The problem is it rarely has translated to the basketball court. He is a 38% shooter, a 28% 3 point shooter and a 53% free throw shooter since arriving in Queens. He is a big man version of Malik Ellison. Ellison the better passer and Amar the slightly better rebounder. If he could bottle what he did in last years Syracuse game every once in a while then we might have something. I hope he can step it up.

Andrew2, statistics aside, not sure I'm buying Amar's being a big man version of Malik Ellison. I feel a lot more comfortable (or should I say "less uncomfortable") when the ball is in Ellison's hands than when it's in Amar's.

 

[Andrew]

I don't get all the Alibegovic hate. The kid plays his heart out on the court and is always invested in the game from the bench. That attitude is exactly what I want from one of the last guys on the bench. He's not a great player, we all know that. He is serviceable though, the expectations just need to be toned down. The real let down thus far has been Sima's play. I'm glad Ali B's on the team this year.

Agree with all your points but believe the negativity toward Ali is based on his propensity to frequently hoist up 3 point shots while hitting them at an alarmingly low rate often times immediately upon entering the game. Perhaps if he could be a bit more humble he would actually be a crowd favorite based upon the energy and hustle he brings and the enthusiasm he displays while on the bench. (Or just make the 3s at a much higher rate).

Or shoot less 3s and develop his inside game. We are going to need that w Sima gone.

Would expect Matt to dunk a basketball before Amar looks to shoot less threes.

He doesn't have to take less threes in my opinion - just make more of them. Perhaps taking a 1/2 second to square up.

When I watch this kid in person during games, he's exactly the kind of kid I'd want on any team. He's a great teammate, a great team spirit guy, and whether he contributes in the stat line or not, he's just a lot of fun in the college game because his attitude is a refreshing break from how pros approach the game.

I agree with you about the effort Amar brings. The problem is it rarely has translated to the basketball court. He is a 38% shooter, a 28% 3 point shooter and a 53% free throw shooter since arriving in Queens. He is a big man version of Malik Ellison. Ellison the better passer and Amar the slightly better rebounder. If he could bottle what he did in last years Syracuse game every once in a while then we might have something. I hope he can step it up.

Andrew2, statistics aside, not sure I'm buying Amar's being a big man version of Malik Ellison. I feel a lot more comfortable (or should I say "less uncomfortable") when the ball is in Ellison's hands than when it's in Amar's.

I was trying to say they shoot the ball with similar "skill".

 

[beast of the east]

I don't get all the Alibegovic hate. The kid plays his heart out on the court and is always invested in the game from the bench. That attitude is exactly what I want from one of the last guys on the bench. He's not a great player, we all know that. He is serviceable though, the expectations just need to be toned down. The real let down thus far has been Sima's play. I'm glad Ali B's on the team this year.

Agree with all your points but believe the negativity toward Ali is based on his propensity to frequently hoist up 3 point shots while hitting them at an alarmingly low rate often times immediately upon entering the game. Perhaps if he could be a bit more humble he would actually be a crowd favorite based upon the energy and hustle he brings and the enthusiasm he displays while on the bench. (Or just make the 3s at a much higher rate).

Or shoot less 3s and develop his inside game. We are going to need that w Sima gone.

Would expect Matt to dunk a basketball before Amar looks to shoot less threes.

He doesn't have to take less threes in my opinion - just make more of them. Perhaps taking a 1/2 second to square up.

When I watch this kid in person during games, he's exactly the kind of kid I'd want on any team. He's a great teammate, a great team spirit guy, and whether he contributes in the stat line or not, he's just a lot of fun in the college game because his attitude is a refreshing break from how pros approach the game.

I agree with you about the effort Amar brings. The problem is it rarely has translated to the basketball court. He is a 38% shooter, a 28% 3 point shooter and a 53% free throw shooter since arriving in Queens. He is a big man version of Malik Ellison. Ellison the better passer and Amar the slightly better rebounder. If he could bottle what he did in last years Syracuse game every once in a while then we might have something. I hope he can step it up.

As I said prior to yesterday's game, he is on this squad because he asked back in after essentially being cut loose to seek other schools. Presumably there was little opportunity for him to get serious minutes here, and the fact that he is speaks to a thin front line, thinner today with the loss of Sima.

Essentially, he is what he is as a player, but will be asked to provide interior defense and rebounding. My comments were about his spirit and enthusiasm, not about his basketball ability. I would say that for a kid his size, he can handle the ball pretty well, runs the floor well, and doesn't commit a ton of turnovers. While he doesn't shoot well enough or rebound well enough, he isn't a huge liability on the court, and will apparently now have the opportunity for major minutes.

Keep in mind that game minutes are often determined by who is busting it in practice. Perhaps to Mullin and staff, he is earning court time with his play in practice.

 

[Knight]

The Ali love is getting a little out of hand. I understand what Beast and others are saying: the kid plays hard and cheers on his teammates. He even demonstrates leadership on the court.

Unfortunately his intangibles are about the sixth or seventh most desirable attribute for a basketball player after shooting ability, defense, ball handling, rebounding etc.

He is an 18% 3pt shooter right now. So he certainly needs to make more and take less shots. But we're also talking about a guy who is a career 50% foul shooter. So I'm not sure why anyone expects him to consistently drain 3s. He's not a shooter.

He also isn't a good defender and turns the ball over. So all in all, we need more from him. He just became our 7th man give or take. He's going to need to backup both Yakwe and Owens. Because even with his weaknesses I think I still prefer AA over RI chard F at this point.

Hopefully Amar makes the most of this oppertunity.
Also .. in regards to cracking his head open on a fire extinguisher ... wtf? Come on man

He's taken 11 3pt shots. Hardly a sample to quote percentages on.

 

[monte]

I don't get all the Alibegovic hate. The kid plays his heart out on the court and is always invested in the game from the bench. That attitude is exactly what I want from one of the last guys on the bench. He's not a great player, we all know that. He is serviceable though, the expectations just need to be toned down. The real let down thus far has been Sima's play. I'm glad Ali B's on the team this year.

Agree with all your points but believe the negativity toward Ali is based on his propensity to frequently hoist up 3 point shots while hitting them at an alarmingly low rate often times immediately upon entering the game. Perhaps if he could be a bit more humble he would actually be a crowd favorite based upon the energy and hustle he brings and the enthusiasm he displays while on the bench. (Or just make the 3s at a much higher rate).

Or shoot less 3s and develop his inside game. We are going to need that w Sima gone.

Would expect Matt to dunk a basketball before Amar looks to shoot less threes.

He doesn't have to take less threes in my opinion - just make more of them. Perhaps taking a 1/2 second to square up.

When I watch this kid in person during games, he's exactly the kind of kid I'd want on any team. He's a great teammate, a great team spirit guy, and whether he contributes in the stat line or not, he's just a lot of fun in the college game because his attitude is a refreshing break from how pros approach the game.

I agree with you about the effort Amar brings. The problem is it rarely has translated to the basketball court. He is a 38% shooter, a 28% 3 point shooter and a 53% free throw shooter since arriving in Queens. He is a big man version of Malik Ellison. Ellison the better passer and Amar the slightly better rebounder. If he could bottle what he did in last years Syracuse game every once in a while then we might have something. I hope he can step it up.

Andrew2, statistics aside, not sure I'm buying Amar's being a big man version of Malik Ellison. I feel a lot more comfortable (or should I say "less uncomfortable") when the ball is in Ellison's hands than when it's in Amar's.

I was trying to say they shoot the ball with similar "skill".

I actually like Ellison's stroke from beyond the arc. My biggest issue with Ellison is his decisions with the ball in his hands. Mostly the ill advised pull up threes early in the shot clock, and the out of control drives to the hoop. There was improvement last game, hopefully that continues.

 

[fun]

The Ali love is getting a little out of hand. I understand what Beast and others are saying: the kid plays hard and cheers on his teammates. He even demonstrates leadership on the court.

Unfortunately his intangibles are about the sixth or seventh most desirable attribute for a basketball player after shooting ability, defense, ball handling, rebounding etc.

He is an 18% 3pt shooter right now. So he certainly needs to make more and take less shots. But we're also talking about a guy who is a career 50% foul shooter. So I'm not sure why anyone expects him to consistently drain 3s. He's not a shooter.

He also isn't a good defender and turns the ball over. So all in all, we need more from him. He just became our 7th man give or take. He's going to need to backup both Yakwe and Owens. Because even with his weaknesses I think I still prefer AA over RI chard F at this point.

Hopefully Amar makes the most of this oppertunity.
Also .. in regards to cracking his head open on a fire extinguisher ... wtf? Come on man

He's taken 11 3pt shots. Hardly a sample to quote percentages on.

Over three years he's 76 of 200 (38%) from the floor, 34 of 123 (27%) from three and 28 of 51 (54%) from the free throw line. Is that sample big enough to quote or should we give him a couple more years to prove himself.

 

[bk8664]

I don't get all the Alibegovic hate. The kid plays his heart out on the court and is always invested in the game from the bench. That attitude is exactly what I want from one of the last guys on the bench. He's not a great player, we all know that. He is serviceable though, the expectations just need to be toned down. The real let down thus far has been Sima's play. I'm glad Ali B's on the team this year.

Agree with all your points but believe the negativity toward Ali is based on his propensity to frequently hoist up 3 point shots while hitting them at an alarmingly low rate often times immediately upon entering the game. Perhaps if he could be a bit more humble he would actually be a crowd favorite based upon the energy and hustle he brings and the enthusiasm he displays while on the bench. (Or just make the 3s at a much higher rate).

Or shoot less 3s and develop his inside game. We are going to need that w Sima gone.

Would expect Matt to dunk a basketball before Amar looks to shoot less threes.

He doesn't have to take less threes in my opinion - just make more of them. Perhaps taking a 1/2 second to square up.

When I watch this kid in person during games, he's exactly the kind of kid I'd want on any team. He's a great teammate, a great team spirit guy, and whether he contributes in the stat line or not, he's just a lot of fun in the college game because his attitude is a refreshing break from how pros approach the game.

I agree with you about the effort Amar brings. The problem is it rarely has translated to the basketball court. He is a 38% shooter, a 28% 3 point shooter and a 53% free throw shooter since arriving in Queens. He is a big man version of Malik Ellison. Ellison the better passer and Amar the slightly better rebounder. If he could bottle what he did in last years Syracuse game every once in a while then we might have something. I hope he can step it up.

Andrew2, statistics aside, not sure I'm buying Amar's being a big man version of Malik Ellison. I feel a lot more comfortable (or should I say "less uncomfortable") when the ball is in Ellison's hands than when it's in Amar's.

I was trying to say they shoot the ball with similar "skill".

I actually like Ellison's stroke from beyond the arc. My biggest issue with Ellison is his decisions with the ball in his hands. Mostly the ill advised pull up threes early in the shot clock, and the out of control drives to the hoop. There was improvement last game, hopefully that continues.

Ellison is close to being a pretty decent shooter, but he shoots it too flat. You can see it on both 3 pointers and FT's. Even on FT's he's got a bit of a line-drive thing going. It's subtle, but it's there. He's got to get just a touch more arc on it.

 

[Ray Morgan]

With Sima gone, Ali's minutes are going to increase, and he is going to have to defend big, strong centers with post moves. Owens is not a center, but has to now play one on TV. He will be getting a few quick fouls trying to defend, or he will back off and get chewed up inside. So now Yakwe and Ali will be forced to be undersized, out of position centers for up to 25 minutes per game, if not more on occasion. Good luck to us when the Big East season begins. We are going to need it.

 

[Amaseinyourface]

I don't get all the Alibegovic hate. The kid plays his heart out on the court and is always invested in the game from the bench. That attitude is exactly what I want from one of the last guys on the bench. He's not a great player, we all know that. He is serviceable though, the expectations just need to be toned down. The real let down thus far has been Sima's play. I'm glad Ali B's on the team this year.

Agree with all your points but believe the negativity toward Ali is based on his propensity to frequently hoist up 3 point shots while hitting them at an alarmingly low rate often times immediately upon entering the game. Perhaps if he could be a bit more humble he would actually be a crowd favorite based upon the energy and hustle he brings and the enthusiasm he displays while on the bench. (Or just make the 3s at a much higher rate).

Or shoot less 3s and develop his inside game. We are going to need that w Sima gone.

Would expect Matt to dunk a basketball before Amar looks to shoot less threes.

He doesn't have to take less threes in my opinion - just make more of them. Perhaps taking a 1/2 second to square up.

When I watch this kid in person during games, he's exactly the kind of kid I'd want on any team. He's a great teammate, a great team spirit guy, and whether he contributes in the stat line or not, he's just a lot of fun in the college game because his attitude is a refreshing break from how pros approach the game.

I agree with you about the effort Amar brings. The problem is it rarely has translated to the basketball court. He is a 38% shooter, a 28% 3 point shooter and a 53% free throw shooter since arriving in Queens. He is a big man version of Malik Ellison. Ellison the better passer and Amar the slightly better rebounder. If he could bottle what he did in last years Syracuse game every once in a while then we might have something. I hope he can step it up.

Andrew2, statistics aside, not sure I'm buying Amar's being a big man version of Malik Ellison. I feel a lot more comfortable (or should I say "less uncomfortable") when the ball is in Ellison's hands than when it's in Amar's.

I was trying to say they shoot the ball with similar "skill".

I actually like Ellison's stroke from beyond the arc. My biggest issue with Ellison is his decisions with the ball in his hands. Mostly the ill advised pull up threes early in the shot clock, and the out of control drives to the hoop. There was improvement last game, hopefully that continues.

Ellison is close to being a pretty decent shooter, but he shoots it too flat. You can see it on both 3 pointers and FT's. Even on FT's he's got a bit of a line-drive thing going. It's subtle, but it's there. He's got to get just a touch more arc on it.

Yea, its about as subtle as a bowling ball

 

[monte]

I don't get all the Alibegovic hate. The kid plays his heart out on the court and is always invested in the game from the bench. That attitude is exactly what I want from one of the last guys on the bench. He's not a great player, we all know that. He is serviceable though, the expectations just need to be toned down. The real let down thus far has been Sima's play. I'm glad Ali B's on the team this year.

Agree with all your points but believe the negativity toward Ali is based on his propensity to frequently hoist up 3 point shots while hitting them at an alarmingly low rate often times immediately upon entering the game. Perhaps if he could be a bit more humble he would actually be a crowd favorite based upon the energy and hustle he brings and the enthusiasm he displays while on the bench. (Or just make the 3s at a much higher rate).

Or shoot less 3s and develop his inside game. We are going to need that w Sima gone.

Would expect Matt to dunk a basketball before Amar looks to shoot less threes.

He doesn't have to take less threes in my opinion - just make more of them. Perhaps taking a 1/2 second to square up.

When I watch this kid in person during games, he's exactly the kind of kid I'd want on any team. He's a great teammate, a great team spirit guy, and whether he contributes in the stat line or not, he's just a lot of fun in the college game because his attitude is a refreshing break from how pros approach the game.

I agree with you about the effort Amar brings. The problem is it rarely has translated to the basketball court. He is a 38% shooter, a 28% 3 point shooter and a 53% free throw shooter since arriving in Queens. He is a big man version of Malik Ellison. Ellison the better passer and Amar the slightly better rebounder. If he could bottle what he did in last years Syracuse game every once in a while then we might have something. I hope he can step it up.

Andrew2, statistics aside, not sure I'm buying Amar's being a big man version of Malik Ellison. I feel a lot more comfortable (or should I say "less uncomfortable") when the ball is in Ellison's hands than when it's in Amar's.

I was trying to say they shoot the ball with similar "skill".

I actually like Ellison's stroke from beyond the arc. My biggest issue with Ellison is his decisions with the ball in his hands. Mostly the ill advised pull up threes early in the shot clock, and the out of control drives to the hoop. There was improvement last game, hopefully that continues.

Ellison is close to being a pretty decent shooter, but he shoots it too flat. You can see it on both 3 pointers and FT's. Even on FT's he's got a bit of a line-drive thing going. It's subtle, but it's there. He's got to get just a touch more arc on it.

Valid point. I think he may even be flatter from the line than from 3.