a lot of endlessly repetitive chatter

[quote="Chris7" post=292941][quote="fun" post=292934][quote="Frank61" post=292931]This thread reminds me of having a toothache. It hurts so you put your tongue right on the area where it hurts most. It actually hurts more when you put your tongue there, it doesn't do any good, but you do it anyway.[/quote]

Oddly last year there was a nearly identically dumb thread about an assistant coach, except that guy was leaving, also based on an unsubstantiated rumor. Evidently SJ fans loves them some assistant coaches, because I checked a couple three other BE message boards and there are no threads on any of them about any assistant coaches.[/quote]

Yeah? Did those teams finish dead last, or tied for dead last in the conference?[/quote]

Yeah, DePaul.

My turn: out of 100 what percentage of the blame for SJ's poor performance over the last three years would you ascribe to its assistant coaches?
 
The life of St. John’s fans:

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[quote="fun" post=292944][quote="Chris7" post=292941][quote="fun" post=292934][quote="Frank61" post=292931]This thread reminds me of having a toothache. It hurts so you put your tongue right on the area where it hurts most. It actually hurts more when you put your tongue there, it doesn't do any good, but you do it anyway.[/quote]

Oddly last year there was a nearly identically dumb thread about an assistant coach, except that guy was leaving, also based on an unsubstantiated rumor. Evidently SJ fans loves them some assistant coaches, because I checked a couple three other BE message boards and there are no threads on any of them about any assistant coaches.[/quote]

Yeah? Did those teams finish dead last, or tied for dead last in the conference?[/quote]

Yeah, DePaul.

My turn: out of 100 what percentage of the blame for SJ's poor performance over the last three years would you ascribe to its assistant coaches?[/quote]

If it's one percent, that's one percent too much as it is something that is completely within our control. Of course nothing is guaranteed in life (or college hoops), but is putting yourself in the best possible position for success that radical of an idea?
 
Did I miss the part where we speculated about Paultz's avatar change? Is it a "slam dunk"? Maybe we will know within the next 5 years if we're lucky.
 
Our 2018-19 roster looks great, and I'm very grateful that Matt A was able to recruit top talent via the Transfer Pipeline.
But concern emerges when looking at the roster 'as is' post the 2018-19 season.
We're likely to lose 3 - 4 top players after next season: Clark definitely, Ponds and Heron are likely departures, and potentially Simon, as that 'elusive' "Grad Transfer' type who would move elsewhere.
So, our roster will probably include: Figueroa, Dixon, Keita, Trimble, Williams,Roberts, Earlington, Wright, and Caraher.
We'll need at least 3 solid - top recruits to fill some gaps and be ready to play in 2019-20.
Meanwhile, we're short 1 full-time AC, who 'normally' would be our 2nd full recruiter, likely focusing on the HS/AAU pipeline to bring in the talent we need.
We don't have him.
That's the rub.
 
[quote="fun" post=292944][quote="Chris7" post=292941][quote="fun" post=292934][quote="Frank61" post=292931]This thread reminds me of having a toothache. It hurts so you put your tongue right on the area where it hurts most. It actually hurts more when you put your tongue there, it doesn't do any good, but you do it anyway.[/quote]

Oddly last year there was a nearly identically dumb thread about an assistant coach, except that guy was leaving, also based on an unsubstantiated rumor. Evidently SJ fans loves them some assistant coaches, because I checked a couple three other BE message boards and there are no threads on any of them about any assistant coaches.[/quote]

Yeah? Did those teams finish dead last, or tied for dead last in the conference?[/quote]

Yeah, DePaul.

My turn: out of 100 what percentage of the blame for SJ's poor performance over the last three years would you ascribe to its assistant coaches?[/quote]

Ah yes. Let's compare ourselves to the other recent bottom feeder of the league. The DePaul model is truly one we should strive for. A 45-185 BE record since 2006, with 8 last place conference finishes in 12 years.

But I get it. It's your golden boy, so he should be untouchable. Fact is he's too stubborn to send one of his good friends packing or demote him, and it's detrimental to the team and program now. Anyone with an objective view point of the team, who watches them play, can see that there is a lack of in-game coaching. Something that is in CM's control and fixable.
 
[quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=292946]If it's one percent, that's one percent too much as it is something that is completely within our control. [/quote]

No, if it's one percent it's almost completely insignificant.

Of course nothing is guaranteed in life (or college hoops), but is putting yourself in the best possible position for success that radical of an idea?
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Very few people here have any idea what the various assistants do or what they bring to the table. And very few is me being generous. And anyway nothing of what's going on in this thread - whining about how much Mitch Richmond gets paid or how he spends his summer vacation or how young GSJ is and how bad Rohrssen's contract was - is going to have any effect on putting anyone in a better position to succeed at anything.

Which is not me saying you shouldn't do it: it goes without saying that you're free to discuss whatever you find interesting in whatever manner you find compelling however you like, no matter how repetitive, tedious and unimaginative. But at this point the dead horse is being beaten to death with a dead horse by a terminally ill horse and the dead horse is a hypothetical assistant coach. I don't understand the angst. Again, if he difference between SJ having a successful season and an unsuccessful one is Mike Rice then SJ did poorly in hiring Chris Mullin as its head coach.
 
If possible, can anyone who comes across actual news of a staff change (or no change) post it on a new thread for those who don't want to page through this one? Thanks.
 
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[quote="Chris7" post=292950][quote="fun" post=292944][quote="Chris7" post=292941][quote="fun" post=292934][quote="Frank61" post=292931]This thread reminds me of having a toothache. It hurts so you put your tongue right on the area where it hurts most. It actually hurts more when you put your tongue there, it doesn't do any good, but you do it anyway.[/quote]

Oddly last year there was a nearly identically dumb thread about an assistant coach, except that guy was leaving, also based on an unsubstantiated rumor. Evidently SJ fans loves them some assistant coaches, because I checked a couple three other BE message boards and there are no threads on any of them about any assistant coaches.[/quote]

Yeah? Did those teams finish dead last, or tied for dead last in the conference?[/quote]

Yeah, DePaul.

My turn: out of 100 what percentage of the blame for SJ's poor performance over the last three years would you ascribe to its assistant coaches?[/quote]

Ah yes. Let's compare ourselves to the other recent bottom feeder of the league. The DePaul model is truly one we should strive for. A 45-185 BE record since 2006, with 8 last place conference finishes in 12 years.

[/quote] You asked a question, which I answered. If you find the answer stupid, that's a function of how stupid the question was.

But I get it. It's your golden boy, so he should be untouchable. Fact is he's too stubborn to send one of his good friends packing or demote him, and it's detrimental to the team and program now.
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I notice you didn't answer the question, you just repeated what you said three posts ago. Which explains why this thread is 50 pages long and five weeks old. FTR I don't think Mullin is above criticism, I just find the criticism witless and ill-informed.

Anyone with an objective view point of the team, who watches them play, can see that there is a lack of in-game coaching. Something that is in CM's control and fixable.
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No one has an objective point of view of anything, that's a complete impossibility. I watch the games, sometimes more than once and personally I don't find Mullin any dumber than most coaches; certainly he's no worse than that dunce Lavin. I mean sure, he's no Doug McDermott's father, but Doug McDermott's fathers are few and far between. Other than guys like him and diabolical genyiouses like Schrewsreski mostly I think coaching, especially in game coaching, is over rated. Outside of recruiting, assistant coaching I don't think is a blip on the radar.
 
I agree the thread has become quite repetitive and ornery. That said, to me, there is nothing more juvenile than one specific poster's endless, self-impressed quest to make other posters seem foolish. Dude.....get over yourself.
 
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[quote="fun" post=292953][quote="Chris7" post=292950][quote="fun" post=292944][quote="Chris7" post=292941][quote="fun" post=292934][quote="Frank61" post=292931]This thread reminds me of having a toothache. It hurts so you put your tongue right on the area where it hurts most. It actually hurts more when you put your tongue there, it doesn't do any good, but you do it anyway.[/quote]

Oddly last year there was a nearly identically dumb thread about an assistant coach, except that guy was leaving, also based on an unsubstantiated rumor. Evidently SJ fans loves them some assistant coaches, because I checked a couple three other BE message boards and there are no threads on any of them about any assistant coaches.[/quote]

Outside of recruiting, assistant coaching I don't think is a blip on the radar.[/quote]

I agree, outside of recruiting, assistant coaches don't "coach" the team during games. Certainly not the 4th coach down the bench!
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[quote="JohnnyFan" post=292954]I agree the thread has become quite repetitive and ornery. That said, to me, there is nothing more juvenile than one specific poster's endless, self-impressed quest to make other posters seem foolish. Dude.....get over yourself.[/quote]

I agree, Redmannorth should learn to exercise some self control. He really ruins the board for me.
 
[quote="JohnnyFan" post=292954]I agree the thread has become quite repetitive and ornery. That said, to me, there is nothing more juvenile than one specific poster's endless, self-impressed quest to make other posters seem foolish. Dude.....get over yourself.[/quote]

“Can’t we all just get along?”
That may have been a line in ‘Stripes’.
I forget.
 
[quote="fun" post=292957][quote="JohnnyFan" post=292954]I agree the thread has become quite repetitive and ornery. That said, to me, there is nothing more juvenile than one specific poster's endless, self-impressed quest to make other posters seem foolish. Dude.....get over yourself.[/quote]

I agree, Redmannorth should learn to exercise some self control. He really ruins the board for me.[/quote]


That’s funny.
Gotta laugh.
 
i think MANY on this board would agree that SJU did VERY poorly in bringing Mullin in as head coach!
 
[quote="Chicago Days" post=292958][quote="JohnnyFan" post=292954]I agree the thread has become quite repetitive and ornery. That said, to me, there is nothing more juvenile than one specific poster's endless, self-impressed quest to make other posters seem foolish. Dude.....get over yourself.[/quote]

“Can’t we all just get along?”
That may have been a line in ‘Stripes’.
I forget.[/quote]

Off topic a bit, though admittedly squarely in the "repetitive" sub category, is there a single 2019 recruit that is a St. John's lean (i.e., more likely to commit to us than not) at this point? If the answer is no (Spoiler alert: it is no), does that bother anyone?
 
[quote="Chicago Days" post=292959][quote="fun" post=292957][quote="JohnnyFan" post=292954]I agree the thread has become quite repetitive and ornery. That said, to me, there is nothing more juvenile than one specific poster's endless, self-impressed quest to make other posters seem foolish. Dude.....get over yourself.[/quote]

I agree, Redmannorth should learn to exercise some self control. He really ruins the board for me.[/quote]


That’s funny.
Gotta laugh.[/quote]

Yeah I had a good laugh at that one too.
 
[quote="JohnnyFan" post=292954]I agree the thread has become quite repetitive and ornery. That said, to me, there is nothing more juvenile than one specific poster's endless, self-impressed quest to make other posters seem foolish. Dude.....get over yourself.[/quote] [attachment=341]George-Carlin--Never-argue-with-an-idiot.-They-will-only-bring-you-down-660x330_2018-08-20.jpg[/attachment]
 
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[quote="Chicago Days" post=292958][quote="JohnnyFan" post=292954]I agree the thread has become quite repetitive and ornery. That said, to me, there is nothing more juvenile than one specific poster's endless, self-impressed quest to make other posters seem foolish. Dude.....get over yourself.[/quote]

“Can’t we all just get along?”
That may have been a line in ‘Stripes’.
I forget.[/quote]

"Why can't we all just get along."
Said by Rodney King, black man dragged out of his vehicle and beaten by LA cops leading to the hugely destructive Watts riots.
 
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[quote="Class of 72" post=292942][quote="fun" post=292934][quote="Frank61" post=292931]This thread reminds me of having a toothache. It hurts so you put your tongue right on the area where it hurts most. It actually hurts more when you put your tongue there, it doesn't do any good, but you do it anyway.[/quote]

Oddly last year there was a nearly identically dumb thread about an assistant coach, except that guy was leaving, also based on an unsubstantiated rumor. Evidently SJ fans loves them some assistant coaches, because I checked a couple three other BE message boards and there are no threads on any of them about any assistant coaches.[/quote]

Nice of you to apply your research skills to the topic of assistant coaches. My guess is that maybe no other Big East program has shot itself in the foot like our fabled program that is the [strike]sixth[/strike] [strike]seventh[/strike] [strike]eight[/strike] 9th winningest program in America.
My guess is no other program has been paying a "fired" assistant $600k per year for the past 3 seasons and promoted a "special" [strike]friend[/strike] assistant to occupy the headcount position so we would be short a real live body assistant.
One thing is as certain as last place finishes under this great hard working staff and that is that Mitch Richmond is not working pro bono and that the combined salaries of two St. John's invisible assistants is equivalent to more than the salary of experienced head coaches in Division One programs outside of the top 30 coaches out of 330 head coaches.
Yeah, this talk of assistant coaches would be nonsense at any other school but WE ARE........ST. JOHN'S ,
WE ARE........ST. JOHN'S, WE ARE........ST. JOHN'S!
OH, sorry for being repetitive.[/quote]

A mere pittance though compared to UCONN trying to wriggle out of a much bigger debt to Ollie.
 
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