[quote="Room112" post=292374][quote="MJDinkins" post=292371][quote="Class of 72" post=292369][quote="Tom in Salem" post=292362][quote="richard A Steinfeld" post=292354][quote="fuchsia" post=292352]Chicago, I appreciate your optimism but it is now 20- years plus since I've been on Redmen.com and I see Heron as an opportunity for the NCAA to prove their wisdom in changing the transfer regs by pointing out that Heron is screwed since he filed before the rules were changed and once again St. John's is out of luck.
On another point, I joined Redmen.com more than 20 years ago in part because my independent contacts in NYC basketball were telling me that Fran's behavior toward his players was abusive to the extreme, player families were complaining to the administration, and some of the abusive behavior was being interpreted as racist. Lo and behold, Mike Jarvis appeared on the scene to solve that problem (or not). I bring this up now because a Richmond out, Rice in scenario would put us in the position of having an all white coaching staff, having just removed a Hall of Fame player and replaced him with a coach with historical character issues, in a sport where the overwhelming majority of high end recruits, are from minority backgrounds. One incident and we could be blown up for another generation.[/quote] I’ve pointed this out before. Although ,I feel people should be hired on merit and not race . An all white staff may create problems and give opposing coaches some ammo to use against us,[/quote]
MR was not part of Mullin's initial full time staff.[/quote]
MR is not part of the current full time staff either.
We have a black hall of famer.........has it helped with recruits??? Recruits don't select UCLA, Kentucky, Duke, Villanova, Syracuse, North Carolina, Kansas, etc., etc., because of a black assistant coach. It's an insult to many African American parents and players to use black assistants as a lure in this day and age. Those are the same assistants thrown under the bus when scandals arise. Note the current FBI probe.
Pretty damn close to 99% of elite players choose to play for white coaches at predominantly white colleges. Some underestimate the business smarts of black players and parents. If the race of the coach or coaches was a major issue Howard University would be a perennial national power.[/quote]
No, black teenagers may not exactly be choosing those schools based on a black assistant being on those respective staffs. I can assure you that it helps or sure as hell doesn't hurt that a black assistant (or more) are on those particular staffs. Not to mention, we haven't been nearly as successful as those particular programs. We'd likely be an easy target for negative recruitment.
The reason our HOF black assistant hasn't helped with recruiting because he's loafing just a bit more than our other HOF'er. I have a hunch if Richmond wasn't "taking it easy," then we'd see an uptick (even if was slightly) in recruiting.
I think you're underestimating some of these kids and, more importantly, their parents (or guardians, siblings, uncles and grandparents).[/quote]
Let me ask you this then. Not saying I disagree with you. But with this "negative recruiting", don't you think kids and parents and guardians are smart enough to see that speaking poorly about other coaches, shows serious red flags about one's character?[/quote]
In that particular scenario, an opposing staff won't actually have to speak poorly. All they have to say is there isn't any black coaches on their staff, and that just may be enough to dissuade a kid and his parent(s).
Or, it could just be a case where a parent, guardian or such can see for themselves and that may be enough to turn 'em off.
