2024-25 Rankings

Can someone give me a logical explanation for why Gonzaga has a current NET ranking of 10 and SJU is at 18 .
Iā€™m not arguing that we should have a higher ranking than 18 but in looking at Gonzaga I just don't understand how they get to 10.
Gonzaga is 2-6 in Quad 1 games ; SJU is 3-4. Gonzaga is 4-2 in Quad 2 games ; SJU is 7-0.
All of SJUā€™s losses are Quad 1 losses; 11 of Gonzagaā€™s 21 wins are Quad 4 wins. Over half their wins are Quad 4 wins !!!
SJU is ranked 11 in Wins Against Bubble (WAB), however that is determined I also donā€™t understand, and Gonzaga is ranked 48.
Iā€™m sure there are other teams with similar oddball rankings but this makes absolutely no sense to me.
Can anyone explain ?
 
kc41 said:
Can someone give me a logical explanation for why Gonzaga has a current NET ranking of 10 and SJU is at 18 .
Iā€™m not arguing that we should have a higher ranking than 18 but in looking at Gonzaga I just don't understand how they get to 10.
Gonzaga is 2-6 in Quad 1 games ; SJU is 3-4. Gonzaga is 4-2 in Quad 2 games ; SJU is 7-0.
All of SJUā€™s losses are Quad 1 losses; 11 of Gonzagaā€™s 21 wins are Quad 4 wins. Over half their wins are Quad 4 wins !!!
SJU is ranked 11 in Wins Against Bubble (WAB), however that is determined I also donā€™t understand, and Gonzaga is ranked 48.
Iā€™m sure there are other teams with similar oddball rankings but this makes absolutely no sense to me.
Can anyone explain ?
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The only thing I can think of is Strength of Schedule. I havenā€™t looked , but if I remember correctly, Gonzaga played a number of high quality OOC games early in the season.
 
sjc88 said:
I donā€™t know I had more fun going over to the Yukon Graveyard site to hear the whining about how RP ā€œboughtā€ the team with Repole money while ignoring that Hurley and Yukon also have significant NIL agreements. Talk about ignorance.
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At least two of their posters called their fellow brethren out on their hypocrisy.
 
Looking at what our AP ranking may be as of today, after a huge Q2 W (3 NET spots off from Q1) @ Butler:

#1 Auburn W vs. Ole Miss
#2 Duke W @ Miami
#3 Florida L @ Georgia
#4 Houston W @ #10 Texas Tech
#5 Tennessee W @ LSU
#6 Alabama W vs. #24 Mississippi St
#7 St. John's W @ Butler
#8 Michigan St W @ #16 Maryland
#9 Iowa St L @ Oklahoma St
#10 Texas Tech L vs. #10 Texas Tech

I know some are penciling us into the #5 or #6 slot already after #3 Florida lost, but they also play @ #12 Texas A&M on Saturday. If Florida beats them I don't expect to pass them, but with a loss we should pass them.

The only other really relevant result for now was #8 Michigan St's big W @ #16 Maryland. As of now they'd pass us, but may also need to win vs. #11 Wisconsin on Sunday.

For now we could actually move down from #7 to #8. Once you start competing with 1 and 2 seeds for positioning, it becomes very tough to move up, but obviously that's a great problem to have. Most important thing for this week (by far) is securing the Big East title on Saturday, but keep expectations in line for our next AP ranking.
 
ADORAZ said:
Looking at what our AP ranking may be as of today, after a huge Q2 W (3 NET spots off from Q1) @ Butler:

#1 Auburn W vs. Ole Miss
#2 Duke W @ Miami
#3 Florida L @ Georgia
#4 Houston W @ #10 Texas Tech
#5 Tennessee W @ LSU
#6 Alabama W vs. #24 Mississippi St
#7 St. John's W @ Butler
#8 Michigan St W @ #16 Maryland
#9 Iowa St L @ Oklahoma St
#10 Texas Tech L vs. #10 Texas Tech

I know some are penciling us into the #5 or #6 slot already after #3 Florida lost, but they also play @ #12 Texas A&M on Saturday. If Florida beats them I don't expect to pass them, but with a loss we should pass them.

The only other really relevant result for now was #8 Michigan St's big W @ #16 Maryland. As of now they'd pass us, but may also need to win vs. #11 Wisconsin on Sunday.

For now we could actually move down from #7 to #8. Once you start competing with 1 and 2 seeds for positioning, it becomes very tough to move up, but obviously that's a great problem to have. Most important thing for this week (by far) is securing the Big East title on Saturday, but keep expectations in line for our next AP ranking.
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I'm undecided but I think I'm rooting for FL to beat Texas A&M so we are ahead of T A&M in seeding. FL is unreachable.
 
And the excerpt:

Borzello: The other seven teams to make this cut seemed pretty clear; each has been near the top of the rankings since the outset of the season, and outside of a couple of blips here and there, have been incredibly consistent. For the eighth, we're going with Rick Pitino and the Red Storm. One year after missing the NCAA tournament, St. John's is on track to win its first Big East regular-season title since 1992 and its first outright conference championship since 1985.

At the heart of the Red Storm's success has been their defense. They are relentless at that end, ranking No. 2 nationally in adjusted defensive efficiency, giving up the fewest points per game in the Big East. They contest and pressure everywhere on the court, with a top-20 steal percentage and block percentage to go with the nation's seventh-best 2-point defense.

RJ Luis Jr., Kadary Richmond and Zuby Ejioforform one of the nation's best trios. Luis is playing like a legitimate All-American and Big East Player of the Year contender, and Richmond has started to show why he was the No. 1 player in the portal last spring, averaging 17.4 points, 7.2 rebounds, 5.6 assists and 2.3 steals over his past nine games heading into Wednesday's game at Butler.

It goes without saying that the offense has issues. The Red Storm rank eighth in the Big East in offensive efficiency, sitting last in 3-point percentage as well as next-to-last in free throw percentage and 2-point percentage. They have made double-digit 3s in only one game since Thanksgiving. The historical comparisons for their shooting numbers aren't kind to their Final Four aspirations.

Here's why St. John's landed on our list, though: The combination of arguably the best college basketball coach of his generation and an elite defense will keep the Red Storm in games -- their four losses have come by a combined seven points. And in a close game, Luis and Richmond can bully-ball opponents into submission. Will it work for six straight games? That's the key question, but we don't want to be the ones to bet against it.
 
I am less concerned with the number of the seed as I am with the competition within the Region our beloved StJā€™s is placed.

I prefer a higher seed if it keeps us out of the Region that includes Auburn or Duke.
 
Our net is what it is. The SEC teams are racking up Q1 games every time they hit the court. We have to hope the committee looks past that and looks at the fact we have only lost once this year and at 7 points from. Ring undefeated.
 
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