2024-25 Rankings

Could care less what our NET is. Just keep winning and we'll be fine whether it's a 2 or 3 seed. Only worry about what we can control.

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These same NET rankings have Gonzaga at eight, 8!!!

ZAGS got spanked by St. Mary's twice. Outside of the first game of the season, they haven't beaten anyone of note. They have lost to everyone with a pulse... It's insane how overrated they are.

Who have they beat since game one?

Eight in the NET

The NET is an overrated metric, imho.
 
I agree... The top six overall seeds will are Auburn, Duke, Houston, Tennessee, BAMA, and Florida...

We are in the next tier...
Auburn really looks tremendous, but can BBQ Bruce get it done? Hope not. Net of the Johnnies & other BE teams, I could root for Barnes & Tenn. in the Dance.
 
All of the relevant Top 25 games for us are complete for this week (exception being a Michigan St game), a look at where we may be ranked tomorrow (important results in bold):

#1 Auburn: W vs. Ole Miss, W @ #17 Kentucky
#2 Duke: W @ Miami, W vs. Florida St
#3 Florida: L @ Georgia, W vs. #12 Texas A&M
#4 Houston: W @ #10 Texas Tech, W vs. Cincinnati
#5 Tennessee: W @ LSU, W vs. #6 Alabama
#6 Alabama: W vs. #24 Mississippi St, L @ #5 Tennessee
#7 St. John's: W @ Butler, W vs. Seton Hall
#8 Michigan St: W @ #16 Maryland, TBD vs. #11 Wisconsin
#9 Iowa St: L @ Oklahoma St, W vs. #22 Arizona
#10 Texas Tech: L vs. #4 Houston, W @ Kansas
#11 Wisconsin: W vs. Washington, TBD @ #8 Michigan St

As I said a few days ago, there's a good chance we could not move at all or move down even with a 2-0 week. The teams surrounding us all did extremely well despite tough competition. Top 10 problems!🤪

I doubt we'll pass #3 Florida or #6 Alabama. Alabama is a projected 1 seed and only lost by 3 @ #5 Tennessee (along with their blowout win vs. #24 Mississippi St).

#8 Michigan St plays vs. #11 Wisconsin at 1:30 on CBS. If MSU wins they'll pass us, but with a L I think we should stay ahead of them. It's also possible though that #11 Wisconsin could pass us with a win, putting us at #8 regardless of the result.

Even if we drop to #8 this was still a huge week for us in the rankings. It 100% guarantees we'll be ranked (no worse than Top 15-20) when the March Madness brackets are filled out. Marquette had a good week and that'll be a ranked road game for us. Then we have the BET which this year counts as NEUTRAL, plus we'll avoid the two ranking killers in DePaul and Seton Hall opening round. Our resume is already very strong, but of course this team has higher ambitions. I truly think anything is possible this year!
 
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Someone said our Pomeroy rating is the same as it was 12/31. That is because we have won almost every must win since then.

Some thoughts on the last week of the regular season.

- The Marquette game will be huge for seeding. It would be a season sweep over the highest ranked team we played all season and its nationally televised.
- Want UCONN to beat Marquette this week to get them out of the early session in the BET quarterfinals. This should lower prices for those that have to buy in the resale market. Also want Xavier to come in 5th and not Nova.
- Can Butler win one or two of their last games and make our road game Quad 1?
 
Someone said our Pomeroy rating is the same as it was 12/31. That is because we have won almost every must win since then.

Some thoughts on the last week of the regular season.

- The Marquette game will be huge for seeding. It would be a season sweep over the highest ranked team we played all season and its nationally televised.
- Want UCONN to beat Marquette this week to get them out of the early session in the BET quarterfinals. This should lower prices for those that have to buy in the resale market. Also want Xavier to come in 5th and not Nova.
- Can Butler win one or two of their last games and make our road game Quad 1?
Butler has Xavier and Creighton. So doubtful they will win another.
 
This ^

These same NET rankings have Gonzaga at eight, 8!!!

ZAGS got spanked by St. Mary's twice. Outside of the first game of the season, they haven't beaten anyone of note. They have lost to everyone with a pulse... It's insane how overrated they are.

Who have they beat since game one?

Eight in the NET

The NET is an overrated metric, imho.
I agree with you 100%. The NET ranking for Kansas is 10. Their overall record is 19/10 and their combined Quad 1 and Quad 2 won and loss record is 9/10 (St. John's stands at 11/4). I think there is a built in bias to artificially build up teams like St. Mary's and Kansas because they were ranked very highly in pre-season polls and the so-call experts don't want to look like complete morons. There is a reverse bias against St. John's because these same so-called experts had us ranked outside the Top 25 in the pre-season polls and now because we are becoming a national success story, these experts look even worse.
 
SEC teams don't fall much when they lose because that conf has lots of top teams.

Here's hoping next year that we can get 5-6 teams ranked at this point in the season.

Need more from Sean Miller and X.
Need Creighton ranked.
Hate saying this but hoping UConn is better next year.
Cooley will be in his 3rd year at Georgetown.
Here's to hoping.

This year it is what it is.
 
Finishing off this week's AP results:

#1 Auburn: W vs. Ole Miss, W @ #17 Kentucky
#2 Duke: W @ Miami, W vs. Florida St
#3 Florida: L @ Georgia, W vs. #12 Texas A&M
#4 Houston: W @ #10 Texas Tech, W vs. Cincinnati
#5 Tennessee: W @ LSU, W vs. #6 Alabama
#6 Alabama: W vs. #24 Mississippi St, L @ #5 Tennessee
#7 St. John's: W @ Butler, W vs. Seton Hall
#8 Michigan St: W @ #16 Maryland, W vs. #11 Wisconsin
#9 Iowa St: L @ Oklahoma St, W vs. #22 Arizona
#10 Texas Tech: L vs. #4 Houston, W @ Kansas
#11 Wisconsin: W vs. Washington, L @ #8 Michigan St

#8 Michigan St will pass us and I don't expect to pass Florida or Alabama, so I'm pretty sure we'll be #8 tomorrow.

#21 Marquette is the only other BE team that will be ranked tomorrow, which works for the Johnnies since we'll play them. Haven't looked closely at the teams surrounding them, but if #18 Memphis falls to UAB (close ending rn), Marquette will be at least top 20 tomorrow.
 
AP Poll 3/3/25:
#6 St. John's
#20 Marquette
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T#36 UConn
T#38 New Mexico
T#38 Creighton

Wow, happy to be wrong, and just 3 points ahead of Alabama. Our highest ranking since 1991, and the best BE matchup possible to close out the regular season!
 
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