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I just don’t understand how this resume is ranked 10 and 5 in bracket matrix when it is pretty much similar to us

I think too much is being put into NET how is Houston 3 with this resume flawed system.

Q1 - 0-3
Q2 - 5-0 - Okie state / ND / TCU / Kstate / BYU

Opp Average Net - 127
Avg Net Win - 154
Avg Net Loss - 16
NET SOS - 81
NET OCC - 69
RPI - 47
RPI - 64


When St. John’s is the stats DK posted above

Q1 - 1-3 - Xavier
Q2 - 4-0 - New Mexico / nova / gtown / providence


Side note - That site is a great site DK posted
 
redfan9999998 said:
I just don’t understand how this resume is ranked 10 and 5 in bracket matrix when it is pretty much similar to us

I think too much is being put into NET how is Houston 3 with this resume flawed system.

Q1 - 0-3
Q2 - 5-0 - Okie state / ND / TCU / Kstate / BYU

Opp Average Net - 127
Avg Net Win - 154
Avg Net Loss - 16
NET SOS - 81
NET OCC - 69
RPI - 47
RPI - 64


When St. John’s is the stats DK posted above

Q1 - 1-3 - Xavier
Q2 - 4-0 - New Mexico / nova / gtown / providence


Side note - That site is a great site DK posted
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Margin of victory against Q2 teams.
Oklahoma St: 13 pts, ND: 11, TCU: 19, K-St: 30, BYU: 31

Also, to put in perspective how the Big East is down.
Houston has 12 Q1 opportunities the rest of the way.
We have six.
 
dk423 said:
Margin of victory against Q2 teams.
Oklahoma St: 13 pts, ND: 11, TCU: 19, K-St: 30, BYU: 31

Also, to put in perspective how the Big East is down.
Houston has 12 Q1 opportunities the rest of the way.
We have six.
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Understand that for future games but talking as of this moment the resumes. Houston can easily finish 3 in net but to be 3 now shows a flawed system
 
redfan9999998 said:
Understand that for future games but talking as of this moment the resumes. Houston can easily finish 3 in net but to be 3 now shows a flawed system
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If it makes you feel better, KPI-wise, we're ranked 31st and Houston is 32nd. I am not sure its accounting for Georgetown although it says its updated.

KPI killed us last year. We were 71st and was why we weren't even in the "next four out" conversation.
 
otis said:
#32 in the NET rankings.

That’s right, our beloved St.J’s beat Georgetown and fell 4 spots from #28 to #32

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Because margin of victory matters. Thats why the first half play was so unacceptable. We won by 5 points but according to the metrics we underperformed. This is the issue with this team coming out flat too many games even though they’re winning.
 
Mean Gene said:
Because margin of victory matters. Thats why the first half play was so unacceptable. We won by 5 points but according to the metrics we underperformed. This is the issue with this team coming out flat too many games even though they’re winning.
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unacceptable, the players are not robots, get the impression you except them to be at peak performance 100% all the time. It's possible I guess, have not experienced it any field in my lifetime.
 
MJDinkins said:
Here's my take: If we go 18-2 or 17-3 in conference "scrapping by;" I'll be ecstatic.
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Some folks like to go into every game thinking "what happens if we lose" or "what if we don't win by enough" and obsess over our metrics on - checks notes - January 15th. As if ours or any other team's resume is somehow complete. I'm sure they're fun at parties checking bracket matrix. I'm going to keep enjoying the wins.
 
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Frank on twitter has compiled a very good sheet. He also has us as "Should Be In" (which I and literally everyone else is saying) and not mortal lock.
 
Maybe in my old age I’ve become the get off my lawn type but these metrics and rankings are stupid as shit! Our NET last year meant NOTHING.

We gut out a win without our starting PG and the rankings say 4 teams are now better than us the very next morning. Make it make sense!
 
The 4 spot NET drop is about exactly what I expected, Georgetown has a #69 NET and it was only a 5 point home win, but I'm still very happy with the result. Especially because we easily could've lost that game and this forum would be a disaster.

NET isn't the main factor in determining who gets into the Tournament. We've been on both extreme ends of this the past 5 years, getting a spot in 2019 with a NET around #73 and missing out last year with a NET around #33. Winning and who you beat / lose to are the most important factors, which is how it should be. Adding another Q2 win and improving to 4-0 there is huge for our resume.

Still need to keep winning (as would any team), but as of now we are very safely in the field. Let's beat Hall and get a well deserved number by our name.
 
The acid test will come when we play UConn and Marquette. Assume if we go 2-2 or better with them, and continue to take care of the lower tier teams of the league, we are a lock for the Tourney. If we go 1-3? Maybe. 0-4? Forget it.
 
Shannon said:
unacceptable, the players are not robots, get the impression you except them to be at peak performance 100% all the time. It's possible I guess, have not experienced it any field in my lifetime.
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Not peak performance, bad shooting nights will happen , you’ll have off nights. But, level of effort should never be an issue. For most of the first half last night they looked like they didn’t even want to be there. RJ himself said they came out flat. The effort wasn’t there. Rebounding is all about effort, positioning and who wants it more. Georgetown killed us on the boards in the first half. The effort wasn’t there. That’s why Pitino talks about all the other things that they need to do besides score. It’s all the effort stuff.
 
sirvoo said:
Maybe in my old age I’ve become the get off my lawn type but these metrics and rankings are stupid as shit! Our NET last year meant NOTHING.

We gut out a win without our starting PG and the rankings say 4 teams are now better than us the very next morning. Make it make sense!
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The NET ranking doesn't know that Smith missed the game.
 
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