2023-24 Roster

PG - Jenkins (1)
SG - Alleyne (1)
SF - Luis (3)
PF - Slazinski (1)
C - Soriano (1)
Bench - Taylor Jr (2)
Bench -
Bench -
Bench -
Bench - Dunlap (4)
Bench - Conway (1)
Bench - Davis (3)
Bench - Traore (3)

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Current main targets and where they slot in if they commit:
Mgbako (Starts at PF, likely one and done)
Dingle (Starts at SG, bumps Alleyne to 1st G off bench, 1 year left)
Ware (Backup C, maybe mins at PF, 2 years left)
European (???)
 
MugCostanza said:
PG - Jenkins (1)
SG - Alleyne (1)
SF - Luis (3)
PF - Slazinski (1)
C - Soriano (1)
Bench - Taylor Jr (2)
Bench -
Bench -
Bench -
Bench - Dunlap (4)
Bench - Conway (1)
Bench - Davis (3)
Bench - Traore (3)

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Current main targets and where they slot in if they commit:
Mgbako (Starts at PF, likely one and done)
Dingle (Starts at SG, bumps Alleyne to 1st G off bench, 1 year left)
Ware (Backup C, maybe mins at PF, 2 years left)
European (???)
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With Dingle that is a top 25 roster with Sweet 16 potential.
 
Could see a lineup of Hopefully Dingle, RJ, Taylor, MM, Soriano n 2nd unit of Jenkins. Alleyne, Dunlap, Quinn and Ware/Euro....thats tough
 
Just wrap your head around this one, I looked at the FT%’s of all of our roster from the 22’-23’ season at their respective schools. I left Traore out of it because he didn’t take any and Dunlap because I don’t know his percentage, but I’m going to assume it’s high because he’s one of the best young shooters in the county. We have:

Cruz Davis: 76.3
Daniss jenkins: 78.6
Naheim Alleyne: 87.0
Glenn Taylor Jr.: 80.1
RJ Luis: 78.9
Joel Soriano: 73.0
Quinn Slazinski: 75.0
Sean Conway: 85

Average Ft% of these 8 not including Dunlap who’d I’d assume is also very good is 79.25% which is an insanely good team FT% rate. It’s to the point where teams are gonna really have to be careful about fouling us down the stretch with almost everybody near-elite or elite Ft shooters. Our center is the “worst” one at 73%. If we land Dingle at 85.6% it pushes our average above 80% as a team.

If you take that percentage and look at last years teams, it would put us at #2 in the country second only to Villanova (82%) as best FT shooting teams. Add Dingle and we’d be right there. Those kinda stats are what tourney teams are made of.
 
MCNPA said:
Average Ft% of these 8 not including Dunlap who’d I’d assume is also very good is 79.25% which is an insanely good team FT% rate. It’s to the point where teams are gonna really have to be careful about fouling us down the stretch with almost everybody near-elite or elite Ft shooters. Our center is the “worst” one at 73%. If we land Dingle at 85.6% it pushes our average above 80% as a team. Those kinda stats are what tourney teams are made of.
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good stats.
 
MCNPA said:
Just wrap your head around this one, I looked at the FT%’s of all of our roster from the 22’-23’ season at their respective schools. I left Traore out of it because he didn’t take any and Dunlap because I don’t know his percentage, but I’m going to assume it’s high because he’s one of the best young shooters in the county. We have:

Cruz Davis: 76.3
Daniss jenkins: 78.6
Naheim Alleyne: 87.0
Glenn Taylor Jr.: 80.1
RJ Luis: 78.9
Joel Soriano: 73.0
Quinn Slazinski: 75.0
Sean Conway: 85

Average Ft% of these 8 not including Dunlap who’d I’d assume is also very good is 79.25% which is an insanely good team FT% rate. It’s to the point where teams are gonna really have to be careful about fouling us down the stretch with almost everybody near-elite or elite Ft shooters. Our center is the “worst” one at 73%. If we land Dingle at 85.6% it pushes our average above 80% as a team. Those kinda stats are what tourney teams are made of.
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With guys in Taylor and Luis (and joel) who draw fouls at an elite level. Early bonus sessions for SJU
 
MCNPA said:
Just wrap your head around this one, I looked at the FT%’s of all of our roster from the 22’-23’ season at their respective schools. I left Traore out of it because he didn’t take any and Dunlap because I don’t know his percentage, but I’m going to assume it’s high because he’s one of the best young shooters in the county. We have:

Cruz Davis: 76.3
Daniss jenkins: 78.6
Naheim Alleyne: 87.0
Glenn Taylor Jr.: 80.1
RJ Luis: 78.9
Joel Soriano: 73.0
Quinn Slazinski: 75.0
Sean Conway: 85

Average Ft% of these 8 not including Dunlap who’d I’d assume is also very good is 79.25% which is an insanely good team FT% rate. It’s to the point where teams are gonna really have to be careful about fouling us down the stretch with almost everybody near-elite or elite Ft shooters. Our center is the “worst” one at 73%. If we land Dingle at 85.6% it pushes our average above 80% as a team.

If you take that percentage and look at last years teams, it would put us at #2 in the country second only to Villanova (82%) as best FT shooting teams. Add Dingle and we’d be right there. Those kinda stats are what tourney teams are made of.
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Awesome breakdown. That’s also almost always the difference between winning and losing close games
 
MugCostanza said:
PG - Jenkins (1)
SG - Alleyne (1)
SF - Luis (3)
PF - Slazinski (1)
C - Soriano (1)
Bench - Taylor Jr (2)
Bench -
Bench -
Bench -
Bench - Dunlap (4)
Bench - Conway (1)
Bench - Davis (3)
Bench - Traore (3)

Years left in ()

Current main targets and where they slot in if they commit:
Mgbako (Starts at PF, likely one and done)
Dingle (Starts at SG, bumps Alleyne to 1st G off bench, 1 year left)
Ware (Backup C, maybe mins at PF, 2 years left)
European (???)
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Curious as to why you have Luis starting over Taylor? Luis only started 10 games and averaged just 22 mpg for a 13th place A-10 school. Taylor has two years of experience and averaged 30 mpg for an equally bad Pac 12 school.

Luis didn’t even play against the top 2 teams in the A-10 and the best OOC team he played was a bad PAC 12 Colorado who Oregon State split with. Oregon State played both Duke and Florida.

I think there will be competition for the three for sure but the sentiment of the board seems to be as high for Luis as anyone we’ve landed in years.

Obviously Dingle changes the starting convo completely.
 
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Marillac2 said:
Curious as to why you have Luis starting over Taylor? Luis only started 10 games and averaged just 22 mpg for a 13th place A-10 school. Taylor has two years of experience and averaged 30 mpg for an equally bad Pac 12 school.

Luis didn’t even play against the top 2 teams on the A-10 and the best OOC team he played was a bad PAC 12 Colorado who Oregon State split with. Oregon State played both Duke and Florida.

I think there will be competition for the three for sure but the sentiment of the board seems to be as high for Luis as anyone we’ve landed in years.

Obviously Dingle changed the starting convo completely.
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Splitting hairs between the two and sure could go either way once the actual season starts. Doesn’t mean much but Luis was ranked slightly higher than Taylor on most portal rankings and is generally considered the better player. Think most of that is based on upside though so wouldn’t be surprised either way if the more experienced Taylor gets the nod over Luis early in the season
 
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As it stands, just assuming we fill out the roster with Big East caliber reserves and nothing more, I see this as a bubble team. Which side of the bubble we land on will come down to how well the team gels and picks up Pitino’s wildly complicated defense.

Dingle adds 2-3 wins (slightly downgraded with the addition of Luis who has added 1-2 himself) which automatically makes this the best team on paper we’ve had in over 20 years.

Anything we add with the final two spots that is above Big East reserve would up that win projection.
 
MugCostanza said:
Splitting hairs between the two and sure could go either way once the actual season starts. Doesn’t mean much but Luis was ranked slightly higher than Taylor on most portal rankings and is generally considered the better player. Think most of that is based on upside though so wouldn’t be surprised either way if the more experienced Taylor gets the nod over Luis early in the season
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I respect your opinion and I agree it’s splitting hairs. I am just a little surprised how the forum seems so much more excited for Luis than Taylor. To me, Taylor has the highest NBA potential of anyone on the roster if he can develop as a shooter and adds changing speeds and counter moves to his tool box.
 
MCNPA said:
Just wrap your head around this one, I looked at the FT%’s of all of our roster from the 22’-23’ season at their respective schools. I left Traore out of it because he didn’t take any and Dunlap because I don’t know his percentage, but I’m going to assume it’s high because he’s one of the best young shooters in the county. We have:

Cruz Davis: 76.3
Daniss jenkins: 78.6
Naheim Alleyne: 87.0
Glenn Taylor Jr.: 80.1
RJ Luis: 78.9
Joel Soriano: 73.0
Quinn Slazinski: 75.0
Sean Conway: 85

Average Ft% of these 8 not including Dunlap who’d I’d assume is also very good is 79.25% which is an insanely good team FT% rate. It’s to the point where teams are gonna really have to be careful about fouling us down the stretch with almost everybody near-elite or elite Ft shooters. Our center is the “worst” one at 73%. If we land Dingle at 85.6% it pushes our average above 80% as a team.

If you take that percentage and look at last years teams, it would put us at #2 in the country second only to Villanova (82%) as best FT shooting teams. Add Dingle and we’d be right there. Those kinda stats are what tourney teams are made of.
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Thank you for this. I made this point on my recent podcast also (sans Luis bc this was recorded on Thursday) The whole SJU shooting 66% from the free throw line is dead. Thank goodness!

Older players, shooters, three pointer and free throw makers - a recipe for this roster for Coach Pitino. And hopefully a recipe for success!!
 
Marillac2 said:
As it stands, just assuming we fill out the roster with Big East caliber reserves and nothing more, I see this as a bubble team. Which side of the bubble we land on will come down to how well the team gels and picks up Pitino’s wildly complicated defense.

Dingle adds 2-3 wins (slightly downgraded with the addition of Luis who has added 1-2 himself) which automatically makes this the best team on paper we’ve had in over 20 years.

Anything we add with the final two spots that is above Big East reserve would up that win projection.
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Marillac2 Wrote: Dingle adds 2-3 wins (slightly downgraded with the addition of Luis who has added 1-2 himself) which automatically makes this the best team on paper we’ve had in over 20 years.

Personally I think it is hard to assess how good this roster is on paper, as opposed to our other teams over the last twenty years. Year after year some get very giddy here with projections of long tournament runs etc. and then the games start and the optimism quickly turns to venom. I am following the recruiting here closely and feel like we have done pretty well, but will still wait and see how these pieces perform and mesh together once the games start.

By nature I am an optimistic person but these players have yet to get on the court together and other than Joel Soriano most of us have seen very little of most of these guys. I am hoping for the best and feel we have a coach who can blend the talent really well, but I will wait to watch some games before I leap to any premature assessments here.
 
SJUDave said:
Thank you for this. I made this point on my recent podcast also (sans Luis bc this was recorded on Thursday) The whole SJU shooting 66% from the free throw line is dead. Thank goodness!

Older players, shooters, three pointer and free throw makers - a recipe for this roster for Coach Pitino. And hopefully a recipe for success!!
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What makes it most notable to me, is HOW good that is as a FT shooting %. From looking it up, the best college FT% ever as of 20-21” season dates back to the Harvard. 83-84’ team at 82.2%.

If we add Dingle, our players will have an average FT% from last season almost close to that high. I’m not going to say it’s going to repeat itself, but merely that across the board we look like we will have a more than stellar FT shooting team, and those are the highest percentage shots and result in the other team grabbing a foul. If we are a solid team, that kind of stat can be a difference maker for us.
 
PG - Jenkins (1)
SG - Alleyne (1)
SF - Luis (3)
PF - Slazinski (1)
C - Soriano (1)
Bench - Taylor Jr (2)
Bench -
Bench -
Bench - Dunlap (4)
Bench - Conway (1)
Bench - Davis (3)
Bench - Sadiku (3)
Bench - Traore (3)

Years left in ()

Current main targets and where they slot in if they commit:
Mgbako (Starts at PF, likely one and done)
Dingle (Starts at SG, bumps Alleyne to 1st G off bench, 1 year left)
Ware (Backup C, maybe mins at PF, 2 years left)
European (???)
 
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