2019 NY Mets

[quote="sjc88" post=361566][quote="mjmaherjr" post=361540]yankee fans cannot comment on our misery right now :)[/quote]

Yankee fans have enough problems to worry about given the 200M crash and burn.[/quote]

I'll never understand the hate between Yankee and Met fans. You do realize that only the World Series champs had a higher payroll in the East right? Yet it's very possible the Mets will be the 3rd or even 4th best team in the DIVISION. I feel sorry for anyone who roots for this team.

You wanna troll about a 200m payroll? The Wilpon family is still paying a guy seven figures a year who hasn't worn a Met uniform in 20 years. Good thing Bernie Madoff's genius investment management is able to help finance such a terrific deal!
 
[quote="AlexSTJ" post=361602][quote="sjc88" post=361566][quote="mjmaherjr" post=361540]yankee fans cannot comment on our misery right now :)[/quote]

Yankee fans have enough problems to worry about given the 200M crash and burn.[/quote]

I'll never understand the hate between Yankee and Met fans. You do realize that only the World Series champs had a higher payroll in the East right? Yet it's very possible the Mets will be the 3rd or even 4th best team in the DIVISION. I feel sorry for anyone who roots for this team.

You wanna troll about a 200m payroll? The Wilpon family is still paying a guy seven figures a year who hasn't worn a Met uniform in 20 years. Good thing Bernie Madoff's genius investment management is able to help finance such a terrific deal![/quote]

Yup, that was me “trolling” on a METS thread. Guess whose trolling? You realize this is a Mets thread right?

By the way it’ll be alright, it’s safe to admit it now, the Yankees choked away 2019. You’ll be ok.
 
[quote="sjc88" post=361604][quote="AlexSTJ" post=361602][quote="sjc88" post=361566][quote="mjmaherjr" post=361540]yankee fans cannot comment on our misery right now :)[/quote]

Yankee fans have enough problems to worry about given the 200M crash and burn.[/quote]

I'll never understand the hate between Yankee and Met fans. You do realize that only the World Series champs had a higher payroll in the East right? Yet it's very possible the Mets will be the 3rd or even 4th best team in the DIVISION. I feel sorry for anyone who roots for this team.

You wanna troll about a 200m payroll? The Wilpon family is still paying a guy seven figures a year who hasn't worn a Met uniform in 20 years. Good thing Bernie Madoff's genius investment management is able to help finance such a terrific deal![/quote]

Yup, that was me “trolling” on a METS thread. Guess whose trolling? You realize this is a Mets thread right?

By the way it’ll be alright, it’s safe to admit it now, the Yankees choked away 2019. You’ll be ok.[/quote]

You seem confused. It's dangerous as a Met fan to associate choking with other teams. Be happy that your team has a possibly bright future ahead and don't worry about anybody else. I'll be rooting for you guys.
 
[quote="AlexSTJ" post=361605][quote="sjc88" post=361604][quote="AlexSTJ" post=361602][quote="sjc88" post=361566][quote="mjmaherjr" post=361540]yankee fans cannot comment on our misery right now :)[/quote]

Yankee fans have enough problems to worry about given the 200M crash and burn.[/quote]

I'll never understand the hate between Yankee and Met fans. You do realize that only the World Series champs had a higher payroll in the East right? Yet it's very possible the Mets will be the 3rd or even 4th best team in the DIVISION. I feel sorry for anyone who roots for this team.

You wanna troll about a 200m payroll? The Wilpon family is still paying a guy seven figures a year who hasn't worn a Met uniform in 20 years. Good thing Bernie Madoff's genius investment management is able to help finance such a terrific deal![/quote]

Yup, that was me “trolling” on a METS thread. Guess whose trolling? You realize this is a Mets thread right?

By the way it’ll be alright, it’s safe to admit it now, the Yankees choked away 2019. You’ll be ok.[/quote]

You seem confused. It's dangerous as a Met fan to associate choking with other teams. Be happy that your team has a possibly bright future ahead and don't worry about anybody else. I'll be rooting for you guys.[/quote]

No, I’m not confused. I am over here on the Met thread. You are trolling apparently worried about what some random Met fan thinks about the Yankees. Sorry I won’t be rooting for you guys. Not really a big deal as it is a competition but to each his own.
 
I'm a Yankee fan. I don't hate the Mets. I don't root for them either, but there is a difference. I hate the Red Sox and, more recently, the Astros for obvious reasons.

I think the Mets have a good core and could be a playoff team next year. Even assuming Wheeler walks because they won't pay him, the rotation is still very solid assuming everyone is healthy like last year. Obviously need to address the bullpen in a significant way. As for the position players, assuming they keep Rosario at SS (instead of moving to CF, which some speculated earlier in the year), I think they need to figure out the CF situation. That solves the OF because you have Conforto in RF, Cespedes/Davis/Nimmo combo in LF (pending Cespedes health), with Davis serving as a valuable utility guy at the corners as well. Probably have to play McNeal at 3b because Cano takes up 2b.
 
Folks being a "fan" of a team is an abbreviation of what a fan is--fanatic!
Our fanaticism was probably generated from our parents/relatives in our youth. The Mets are the successors of the Brooklyn Dodgers and NY Giants. If you came from a family of Brooklyn Dodger fanatics, you lived in a baseball desert from 1958 to 1962. Doris Kearns Goodwin wrote a great book regarding her love of the Brooklyn Dodgers, "Wait Till Next Year", which was mantra of Brooklyn Dodger fans.

I saw my first game at Ebbets Field in 1954, I remember 1955, when they won it all, at last, what a party in the streets of Brooklyn. I have a framed copy of the Daily News back page the day after the victory whose headline is "whose A Bun Now". As kids when we played ball, we would take on the personas of our heroes.
I always thought O'Malley's first name started with a "F", as my family referred to him as F'ing O'Malley in 1957 when they left.

Brooklynites were very parochial about their boro, the home of many of NYC's piers and breweries. They felt snubbed by Manhattan/NYC (after all Bklyn was it's own city until 1892) and thought it too corporate and the Yankees were seen as the "corporate" team. The animosity/rivalry was fierce and you could never support the enemy. (hell, your beer defined what team you rooted for--Dodgers/Schaefer (brewed in Brooklyn), Giants/Knickerbocker (brewed in Manhattan), Yankees/Ballantine (from Baltimore and Newark)).

So hopefully you will understand where the fanaticism comes from and why Met Fanatics could Never support the Yankees.
 
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[quote="BrooklynRed" post=361657]Folks being a "fan" of a team is an abbreviation of what a fan is--fanatic!
Our fanaticism was probably generated from our parents/relatives in our youth. The Mets are the successors of the Brooklyn Dodgers and NY Giants. If you came from a family of Brooklyn Dodger fanatics, you lived in a baseball desert from 1958 to 1962. Doris Kearns Goodwin wrote a great book regarding her love of the Brooklyn Dodgers, "Wait Till Next Year", which was mantra of Brooklyn Dodger fans.

I saw my first game at Ebbets Field in 1954, I remember 1955, when they won it all, at last, what a party in the streets of Brooklyn. I have a framed copy of the Daily News back page the day after the victory whose headline is "whose A Bun Now". As kids when we played ball, we would take on the personas of our heroes.
I always thought O'Malley's first name started with a "F", as my family referred to him as F'ing O'Malley in 1957 when they left.

Brooklynites were very parochial about their boro, the home of many of NYC's piers and breweries. They felt snubbed by Manhattan/NYC (after all Bklyn was it's own city until 1892) and thought it too corporate and the Yankees were seen as the "corporate" team. The animosity/rivalry was fierce and you could never support the enemy. (hell, your beer defined what team you rooted for--Dodgers/Schaefer (brewed in Brooklyn), Giants/Knickerbocker (brewed in Manhattan), Yankees/Ballantine (from Baltimore and Newark)).

So hopefully you will understand where the fanaticism comes from and why Met Fanatics could Never support the Yankees.[/quote]

I really enjoyed your post.
 
Back in 1955 I had tryouts with the Braves, Phillies and Yankees. I was invited by Tony DePhillips and spent the summer at Yankee Stadium and was given first class treatment, uniforms and lunch everyday..Hate to admit but they are first class in my opinion.
 
[quote="BrooklynRed" post=361657]hell, your beer defined what team you rooted for--Dodgers/Schaefer (brewed in Brooklyn), Giants/Knickerbocker (brewed in Manhattan), Yankees/Ballantine (from Baltimore and Newark).[/quote]

And thus for the Mets:
My beer is Rheingold the dry beer!

Appropriate that Ballantine was from Baltimore, because so were the Yankees...
 
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[quote="Spocky Ramone" post=361667][quote="BrooklynRed" post=361657]hell, your beer defined what team you rooted for--Dodgers/Schaefer (brewed in Brooklyn), Giants/Knickerbocker (brewed in Manhattan), Yankees/Ballantine (from Baltimore and Newark).[/quote]

And thus for the Mets:
My beer is Rheingold the dry beer!

Appropriate that Ballantine was from Baltimore, because so were the Yankees...[/quote]

And the Mets were from Hunger.
 
A Met fan since ‘62 and rooted for both until the Steinbrenner/Martin nonsense and the Reggie Jackson crap about being “the straw.” Loved Thurman and will NEVER understand how he is not in the HOF. Eventually stopped watching AL ball completely over the DH. Hate it with a passion to this day although it is largely irrelevant to “no small ball, every swing a home run swing” modern baseball. And, generally pitchers don’t pitch deep enough into games anymore to make the old decision making a factor. Anyway, rooted for the Yanks in the playoffs this year and would love for the Mets to even approach the success the Yankees continue to have.
 
Have Zero animosity towards the Yanks.

But I can’t stand newer Yankees fans, those who have only known success from 96 to the present. They’re smug. They’re entitled. They’re insufferable.

Yankee fans who have suffered through 65 to 75 or the mid 80s to early 90s have my ch better perspective.
 
[quote="MainMan" post=361678]Have Zero animosity towards the Yanks.

But I can’t stand newer Yankees fans, those who have only known success from 96 to the present. They’re smug. They’re entitled. They’re insufferable.

Yankee fans who have suffered through 65 to 75 or the mid 80s to early 90s have my ch better perspective.[/quote]

So to summarize and shorten it we have a " Stump Merrill Rule " If you were a fan during his time you are ok if you were born after you are dead to Main Man :)
 
[quote="mjmaherjr" post=361679][quote="MainMan" post=361678]Have Zero animosity towards the Yanks.

But I can’t stand newer Yankees fans, those who have only known success from 96 to the present. They’re smug. They’re entitled. They’re insufferable.

Yankee fans who have suffered through 65 to 75 or the mid 80s to early 90s have my ch better perspective.[/quote]

So to summarize and shorten it we have a " Stump Merrill Rule " If you were a fan during his time you are ok if you were born after you are dead to Main Man :)[/quote]

Well, my first Yankees game was Opening Day of 1988. I was five years old. Haven't missed an Opening Day since.

Roberto Kelly was my favorite player as a kid. I cried the day they traded him away, and considered (for about 2 minutes) becoming a Mets fan then (I was 10). Shows you what I know, since that trade worked out great.
 
Really good hire by the Mets today. Beltran is a quality person and a terrific baseball mind.

That doesn't guarantee he will win at the levels fans expect, but he's not going to let his ego get in the way of working with Brodie and his players will love him.
 
[quote="SJUFAN2" post=361723]Really good hire by the Mets today. Beltran is a quality person and a terrific baseball mind.

That doesn't guarantee he will win at the levels fans expect, but he's not going to let his ego get in the way of working with Brodie and his players will love him.[/quote]

I came to this thread looking for Met fan comments on the Beltran hire. Thank you.

I love Beltran. I was pissed when the Yankees passed on him when he was a free agent the first time especially after he went and told them he would accept less money and one less year (6 at $100M) than what the Mets were offering, which he wound up accepting.

When he was playing, you always heard how he mentored and served as a role model for younger players and had a great baseball mind. I hate the Mets (always was a Yankee fan but didn't start hating the Mets until 85/86 when everyone got on the bandwagon. People I knew who didn't know anything about baseball all of a sudden wanted to go the Met games, it was the "in thing" to do), but wish Beltran luck as he really seems to be one of the genuine good guys with a love and passion for the game.
 
Not as concerned with Beltran as a rookie manager as I would be in other sports. Beltran knows baseball, the NY market, NY media, and should be a great influence over players. In today's game, with so many latino players, having a Latino manager of the Mets is long overdue.
 
Pete Alonso ROY!

Monster start to a hopefully stellar career! Personal hardware is great, hoping he gets some team-oriented bling in the near future!
 
[quote="Spocky Ramone" post=362629]Pete Alonso ROY!

Monster start to a hopefully stellar career! Personal hardware is great, hoping he gets some team-oriented bling in the near future![/quote]

Good guy and easy to root for, even for a Yankee fan. Congrats Pete, well deserved!
 
I wonder what the odds are of Alonso ever hitting 50 home runs again. I mean he is crazy strong without being ripped, and hits bombs, but still.

Congratulations to him. He was a reason to see Mets play in person all by himself. His kid-like enthusiasm that was infectious make the Mets a very easy team to root for.

Really wish management would realize that opening their wallets would put us in WS contention by holding onto Wheeler and strengthening the bullpen.
 
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