2019 NY Mets
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beast of the east
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After 4 seasons of having 30 game season packages I will never again buy season tix with this ownership. Why? \
In what promises to be a great season, if you buy tix way in advance for a big series, if the Mets underperform or have a couple of injuries, they will not spend money to improve themselves. You may as well buy on stubhub.
I have about $500 in gift certificates to Mets in my drawer never used because of this. Chances are they will not be that good, and baseball sucks to watch when your team is a losing team. The energy gets drained out of the ballpark and I just go to enjoy warm weather outside with friends and pick up great seats relatively cheaply.
If I'm wrong, I'll gladly overpay for a big series, but thankfully for my finances, I only had to do that a couple of times in the playoffs in 2015 and on David Wright's final game.
In what promises to be a great season, if you buy tix way in advance for a big series, if the Mets underperform or have a couple of injuries, they will not spend money to improve themselves. You may as well buy on stubhub.
I have about $500 in gift certificates to Mets in my drawer never used because of this. Chances are they will not be that good, and baseball sucks to watch when your team is a losing team. The energy gets drained out of the ballpark and I just go to enjoy warm weather outside with friends and pick up great seats relatively cheaply.
If I'm wrong, I'll gladly overpay for a big series, but thankfully for my finances, I only had to do that a couple of times in the playoffs in 2015 and on David Wright's final game.
beast of the east
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[quote="SI1996" post=360746]We will hire Beltran as the coach and bring in Pedro to be the pitching coach. Pedro's rooster will work the bullpen to save a little scratch.[/quote]
Hire an experienced manager, best of what's left. Hire Beltran as a coach, and when you fire the manager elevate Beltran.
Hire an experienced manager, best of what's left. Hire Beltran as a coach, and when you fire the manager elevate Beltran.
[quote="Beast of the East" post=360745]After 4 seasons of having 30 game season packages I will never again buy season tix with this ownership. Why? \
In what promises to be a great season, if you buy tix way in advance for a big series, if the Mets underperform or have a couple of injuries, they will not spend money to improve themselves. You may as well buy on stubhub.
I have about $500 in gift certificates to Mets in my drawer never used because of this. Chances are they will not be that good, and baseball sucks to watch when your team is a losing team. The energy gets drained out of the ballpark and I just go to enjoy warm weather outside with friends and pick up great seats relatively cheaply.
If I'm wrong, I'll gladly overpay for a big series, but thankfully for my finances, I only had to do that a couple of times in the playoffs in 2015 and on David Wright's final game.[/quote]
Beast, I have a very similar story. I had 3 twenty game plans for several years. The most frustrating part with baseball is when the team is basically hopeless by July. Now you are sitting there by yourself and nobody wants to go. Can only sell for a loss. On top of that team dumps salary at trade deadline making it worse and even more boring and hopeless. Then when winter comes ownership shops at the discount rack of free agency. The Mets are good at knocking you down and then spitting on you when you are down.
Then I wised up. I didn’t renew. They called me. Begged me. Gave me tours of the Stadium. I didn’t bite. I attended several games on great weather days, when I wanted to go. Spent less money than any other season. They even gave me comps still trying to get me back in a plan. Best season as a fan in years.
Next time they call (and they will) I tell them when you spend some money like you want to win I’ll be there. If not, I’ll shop at a discount. Plenty of good seats available.
In what promises to be a great season, if you buy tix way in advance for a big series, if the Mets underperform or have a couple of injuries, they will not spend money to improve themselves. You may as well buy on stubhub.
I have about $500 in gift certificates to Mets in my drawer never used because of this. Chances are they will not be that good, and baseball sucks to watch when your team is a losing team. The energy gets drained out of the ballpark and I just go to enjoy warm weather outside with friends and pick up great seats relatively cheaply.
If I'm wrong, I'll gladly overpay for a big series, but thankfully for my finances, I only had to do that a couple of times in the playoffs in 2015 and on David Wright's final game.[/quote]
Beast, I have a very similar story. I had 3 twenty game plans for several years. The most frustrating part with baseball is when the team is basically hopeless by July. Now you are sitting there by yourself and nobody wants to go. Can only sell for a loss. On top of that team dumps salary at trade deadline making it worse and even more boring and hopeless. Then when winter comes ownership shops at the discount rack of free agency. The Mets are good at knocking you down and then spitting on you when you are down.
Then I wised up. I didn’t renew. They called me. Begged me. Gave me tours of the Stadium. I didn’t bite. I attended several games on great weather days, when I wanted to go. Spent less money than any other season. They even gave me comps still trying to get me back in a plan. Best season as a fan in years.
Next time they call (and they will) I tell them when you spend some money like you want to win I’ll be there. If not, I’ll shop at a discount. Plenty of good seats available.
beast of the east
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[quote="sjc88" post=360786][quote="Beast of the East" post=360745]After 4 seasons of having 30 game season packages I will never again buy season tix with this ownership. Why? \
In what promises to be a great season, if you buy tix way in advance for a big series, if the Mets underperform or have a couple of injuries, they will not spend money to improve themselves. You may as well buy on stubhub.
I have about $500 in gift certificates to Mets in my drawer never used because of this. Chances are they will not be that good, and baseball sucks to watch when your team is a losing team. The energy gets drained out of the ballpark and I just go to enjoy warm weather outside with friends and pick up great seats relatively cheaply.
If I'm wrong, I'll gladly overpay for a big series, but thankfully for my finances, I only had to do that a couple of times in the playoffs in 2015 and on David Wright's final game.[/quote]
Beast, I have a very similar story. I had 3 twenty game plans for several years. The most frustrating part with baseball is when the team is basically hopeless by July. Now you are sitting there by yourself and nobody wants to go. Can only sell for a loss. On top of that team dumps salary at trade deadline making it worse and even more boring and hopeless. Then when winter comes ownership shops at the discount rack of free agency. The Mets are good at knocking you down and then spitting on you when you are down.
Then I wised up. I didn’t renew. They called me. Begged me. Gave me tours of the Stadium. I didn’t bite. I attended several games on great weather days, when I wanted to go. Spent less money than any other season. They even gave me comps still trying to get me back in a plan. Best season as a fan in years.
Next time they call (and they will) I tell them when you spend some money like you want to win I’ll be there. If not, I’ll shop at a discount. Plenty of good seats available.[/quote]
Wait! Are you me?
In what promises to be a great season, if you buy tix way in advance for a big series, if the Mets underperform or have a couple of injuries, they will not spend money to improve themselves. You may as well buy on stubhub.
I have about $500 in gift certificates to Mets in my drawer never used because of this. Chances are they will not be that good, and baseball sucks to watch when your team is a losing team. The energy gets drained out of the ballpark and I just go to enjoy warm weather outside with friends and pick up great seats relatively cheaply.
If I'm wrong, I'll gladly overpay for a big series, but thankfully for my finances, I only had to do that a couple of times in the playoffs in 2015 and on David Wright's final game.[/quote]
Beast, I have a very similar story. I had 3 twenty game plans for several years. The most frustrating part with baseball is when the team is basically hopeless by July. Now you are sitting there by yourself and nobody wants to go. Can only sell for a loss. On top of that team dumps salary at trade deadline making it worse and even more boring and hopeless. Then when winter comes ownership shops at the discount rack of free agency. The Mets are good at knocking you down and then spitting on you when you are down.
Then I wised up. I didn’t renew. They called me. Begged me. Gave me tours of the Stadium. I didn’t bite. I attended several games on great weather days, when I wanted to go. Spent less money than any other season. They even gave me comps still trying to get me back in a plan. Best season as a fan in years.
Next time they call (and they will) I tell them when you spend some money like you want to win I’ll be there. If not, I’ll shop at a discount. Plenty of good seats available.[/quote]
Wait! Are you me?
[quote="Andrew" post=360660]I was fooled again. Girardi seemed too obvious. I now expect Beltran if he is willing to take a short term contract. In the Mets mind this makes for intrigue and intrigue can sell some tickets. We will see soon enough.[/quote]
What's a "short term contract" in your mind?
What's a "short term contract" in your mind?
[quote="SJUFAN2" post=360868][quote="Andrew" post=360660]I was fooled again. Girardi seemed too obvious. I now expect Beltran if he is willing to take a short term contract. In the Mets mind this makes for intrigue and intrigue can sell some tickets. We will see soon enough.[/quote]
What's a "short term contract" in your mind?[/quote]
Beltran it is. The Mets big free agent signing.
What's a "short term contract" in your mind?[/quote]
Beltran it is. The Mets big free agent signing.
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[quote="Knight" post=361513]Chris Mullin redeaux.[/quote]
More like Fred Hoiberg, or Aaron Boone, IMO. That's not as important in the pros anyway, where you have guys under contract.
I'm one of those Yankees fans, who takes a little pleasure whenever the Mets lose in inept fashion. I having a funny feeling the number of times that happens in the future will be significantly reduced. He was the only reasonable choice the Mets could make, IMO.
If you're worried about him handling pitchers, remember that he was the one who explained to James Paxton earlier this year exactly how Paxton was tipping pitchers, and Paxton pitched much better after that. I also think he is very knowledgeable, will be prepared, has great communication skills, and will present the nice balance of a calm demeanor, while also demanding that the players play hard, at all times.
I thought he was the right choice for the Yankees two years ago (although Boone has done a great job), and I think he is the right choice for the Mets now.
This was the only way for the Mets to go, IMO (I don't think Girardi was as perfect a fit, as people were saying he was - he treats a loss in May that ends an 8-game winning streak, like it was the 7th game of the World Series he just lost. While that kept some players on their toes at all times, especially WRT fundamentals, it also made other guys too tight, IMO, and they would go into slumps at the worst time). In fact, he was such an obvious choice, that I didn't think the Mets would go for him.
Great hire, IMO, and I mean that genuinely.
More like Fred Hoiberg, or Aaron Boone, IMO. That's not as important in the pros anyway, where you have guys under contract.
I'm one of those Yankees fans, who takes a little pleasure whenever the Mets lose in inept fashion. I having a funny feeling the number of times that happens in the future will be significantly reduced. He was the only reasonable choice the Mets could make, IMO.
If you're worried about him handling pitchers, remember that he was the one who explained to James Paxton earlier this year exactly how Paxton was tipping pitchers, and Paxton pitched much better after that. I also think he is very knowledgeable, will be prepared, has great communication skills, and will present the nice balance of a calm demeanor, while also demanding that the players play hard, at all times.
I thought he was the right choice for the Yankees two years ago (although Boone has done a great job), and I think he is the right choice for the Mets now.
This was the only way for the Mets to go, IMO (I don't think Girardi was as perfect a fit, as people were saying he was - he treats a loss in May that ends an 8-game winning streak, like it was the 7th game of the World Series he just lost. While that kept some players on their toes at all times, especially WRT fundamentals, it also made other guys too tight, IMO, and they would go into slumps at the worst time). In fact, he was such an obvious choice, that I didn't think the Mets would go for him.
Great hire, IMO, and I mean that genuinely.
No way to know he is the right or wrong choice one way or the other. He has never managed anywhere. Don’t know if he can manage a bullpen or make out a lineup or motivate major league millionaires. This is a huge gamble and BVW better be right or the next job they will be looking to fill is his.
Like SJU I’ll stay hopeful but we just don’t know.
Like SJU I’ll stay hopeful but we just don’t know.
Spocky Ramone
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[quote="SJU61982" post=361519][quote="Knight" post=361513]Chris Mullin redeaux.[/quote]
More like Fred Hoiberg, or Aaron Boone, IMO. That's not as important in the pros anyway, where you have guys under contract.
I'm one of those Yankees fans, who takes a little pleasure whenever the Mets lose in inept fashion. I having a funny feeling the number of times that happens in the future will be significantly reduced. He was the only reasonable choice the Mets could make, IMO.
If you're worried about him handling pitchers, remember that he was the one who explained to James Paxton earlier this year exactly how Paxton was tipping pitchers, and Paxton pitched much better after that. I also think he is very knowledgeable, will be prepared, has great communication skills, and will present the nice balance of a calm demeanor, while also demanding that the players play hard, at all times.
I thought he was the right choice for the Yankees two years ago (although Boone has done a great job), and I think he is the right choice for the Mets now.
This was the only way for the Mets to go, IMO (I don't think Girardi was as perfect a fit, as people were saying he was - he treats a loss in May that ends an 8-game winning streak, like it was the 7th game of the World Series he just lost. While that kept some players on their toes at all times, especially WRT fundamentals, it also made other guys too tight, IMO, and they would go into slumps at the worst time). In fact, he was such an obvious choice, that I didn't think the Mets would go for him.
Great hire, IMO, and I mean that genuinely.[/quote]
Nice breakdown
More like Fred Hoiberg, or Aaron Boone, IMO. That's not as important in the pros anyway, where you have guys under contract.
I'm one of those Yankees fans, who takes a little pleasure whenever the Mets lose in inept fashion. I having a funny feeling the number of times that happens in the future will be significantly reduced. He was the only reasonable choice the Mets could make, IMO.
If you're worried about him handling pitchers, remember that he was the one who explained to James Paxton earlier this year exactly how Paxton was tipping pitchers, and Paxton pitched much better after that. I also think he is very knowledgeable, will be prepared, has great communication skills, and will present the nice balance of a calm demeanor, while also demanding that the players play hard, at all times.
I thought he was the right choice for the Yankees two years ago (although Boone has done a great job), and I think he is the right choice for the Mets now.
This was the only way for the Mets to go, IMO (I don't think Girardi was as perfect a fit, as people were saying he was - he treats a loss in May that ends an 8-game winning streak, like it was the 7th game of the World Series he just lost. While that kept some players on their toes at all times, especially WRT fundamentals, it also made other guys too tight, IMO, and they would go into slumps at the worst time). In fact, he was such an obvious choice, that I didn't think the Mets would go for him.
Great hire, IMO, and I mean that genuinely.[/quote]
Nice breakdown
Spocky Ramone
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[quote="sjc88" post=361520]No way to know he is the right or wrong choice one way or the other. He has never managed anywhere. Don’t know if he can manage a bullpen or make out a lineup or motivate major league millionaires. This is a huge gamble and BVW better be right or the next job they will be looking to fill is his.
Like SJU I’ll stay hopeful but we just don’t know.[/quote]
I don’t think Carlos will be making out the lineup. He might not be making pitching changes either.
Like SJU I’ll stay hopeful but we just don’t know.[/quote]
I don’t think Carlos will be making out the lineup. He might not be making pitching changes either.
[quote="sjc88" post=361520]No way to know he is the right or wrong choice one way or the other. He has never managed anywhere. Don’t know if he can manage a bullpen or make out a lineup or motivate major league millionaires. This is a huge gamble and BVW better be right or the next job they will be looking to fill is his.
Like SJU I’ll stay hopeful but we just don’t know.[/quote] If the personnel in the Mets bullpen remains the same, no one can manage it. I think communication with the players wil be his greatest strength. The Yankees raved about that, WRT Beltran.
Mets fans , who would have been better? Girardi is wound way too tight to work in the long term ( I think the Phillies are a better fit for him, anyway - he manages star players well, and the Phillies have stars), and Showalter would have been a better fit two years ago, when the Mets were in complete rebuild mode (obviously, he wasen't avaliable then). Maddon is overrated, IMO, and was ticketed for Anaheim right from the start.
Mets fans will remember this day fondly, IMO.
Like SJU I’ll stay hopeful but we just don’t know.[/quote] If the personnel in the Mets bullpen remains the same, no one can manage it. I think communication with the players wil be his greatest strength. The Yankees raved about that, WRT Beltran.
Mets fans , who would have been better? Girardi is wound way too tight to work in the long term ( I think the Phillies are a better fit for him, anyway - he manages star players well, and the Phillies have stars), and Showalter would have been a better fit two years ago, when the Mets were in complete rebuild mode (obviously, he wasen't avaliable then). Maddon is overrated, IMO, and was ticketed for Anaheim right from the start.
Mets fans will remember this day fondly, IMO.
MarkRedman
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Terrible decision IMHO - might as well have kept Callaway
This has Minaya's fingerprints all over it
How Minaya still has a job in the Mets organization is unbelievable to me
Rumors on Twitter is that they will bring Terry Collins back as the bench coach
Hire Collins and keep Regan as pitching coach - the geriatric twins
This has Minaya's fingerprints all over it
How Minaya still has a job in the Mets organization is unbelievable to me
Rumors on Twitter is that they will bring Terry Collins back as the bench coach
Hire Collins and keep Regan as pitching coach - the geriatric twins
MarkRedman
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[quote="mjmaherjr" post=361537]hate the hire wanted Girardi[/quote]
Me too, Mike
Showalter was my second choice
Me too, Mike
Showalter was my second choice