2018/19 Schedule

[quote="IDRAFT" post=292217][quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=292214][quote="IDRAFT" post=292212][quote="bamafan" post=292208][quote="IDRAFT" post=292199]To be clear I don't like the schedule. It's unfair to other Big East teams, who are SJUs partners as they will need to be the ones to boost the Confernces rating. But I expect that to happen. At the end of the day we could easily play 14 conference games against Top 100 teams and Duke is a lock. That's 15. Our OOC was very strong last year and we did well in it. Forget the NCAAs we didn't even make the NIT. We know why. Mullin has a point with his comment.

The biggest deal about this to me is as a ticketholder as it means more crappy games.[/quote]
Where is the relevance between doing well in last year's relatively tough out of conference schedule and not making even the NIT. We didn't make even the NIT because we went 14-19 not because our success in a tough non-conference schedule didn't help us. To call this years non-conference schedule piss poor is to do a disservice to piss. Resembles Georgetown's joke of a non-conference schedule. Hopefully we have a good season, recruit well and have a much better schedule next year. Need at least on name MSG OOC game every year.[/quote]

The relevance is the hardest part of our schedule will always be in conference. And if we go top five in this conference we will be fine. if we come in ninth it won't matter if we had one or two more wins against Top 100 teams.

One more game against a top team would make sense. It should have been scheduled. But when all is said and done our overall schedule will allow for plenty of opportunities to win meaningful games. All we have to do is win them.[/quote]

"And if we go top five in this conference we will be fine." - The evidence simply does not support that statement in what many are expecting to be a rebuilding year for the conference.[/quote]

Sorry I have seen no evidence. I took a look at Syracuse OOC from last year. They played and beat Maryland, Georgetown and UCONN. Lost to Kansas. Those were the notable teams. Went 8-10 in conference. Made the NCAAs.

Georgia Tech and Cal are basically Georgetown and UCONN last year. We can lose to Duke just as easily as they lost to Kansas. And top five inthe Big East will do better than 8-10. So if the BE is really down, which is said every year here in the summer (during the annual complaining about the schedule) 11-7 in the BE should still match 8-10.

That's evidence. On the other hand is non fact based opinions. I have not seen one example laying things out for that from anyone, including Braziller or Vitale.[/quote]

The problem, respectfully, is that you are focused on the teams being played at the "top" of the OOC schedule, and not at the "bottom", as I discussed earlier. Syracuse, while not playing many elite OOC teams last year other than Kansas, played a bunch of decent teams and did not play 4 games against RPI 300+ teams and 6-7 against 200+ like we are doing this year. Hence, they had an OOC strength of schedule of #14 in the country despite not loading up against elites. That's the point. The garbage teams we are playing will be an albatross. The other problem of course is comparing last year's ACC to this year's Big East which isn't really a comparison but will save that for another post.
 
[quote="IDRAFT" post=292217][quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=292214][quote="IDRAFT" post=292212][quote="bamafan" post=292208][quote="IDRAFT" post=292199]To be clear I don't like the schedule. It's unfair to other Big East teams, who are SJUs partners as they will need to be the ones to boost the Confernces rating. But I expect that to happen. At the end of the day we could easily play 14 conference games against Top 100 teams and Duke is a lock. That's 15. Our OOC was very strong last year and we did well in it. Forget the NCAAs we didn't even make the NIT. We know why. Mullin has a point with his comment.

The biggest deal about this to me is as a ticketholder as it means more crappy games.[/quote]
Where is the relevance between doing well in last year's relatively tough out of conference schedule and not making even the NIT. We didn't make even the NIT because we went 14-19 not because our success in a tough non-conference schedule didn't help us. To call this years non-conference schedule piss poor is to do a disservice to piss. Resembles Georgetown's joke of a non-conference schedule. Hopefully we have a good season, recruit well and have a much better schedule next year. Need at least on name MSG OOC game every year.[/quote]

The relevance is the hardest part of our schedule will always be in conference. And if we go top five in this conference we will be fine. if we come in ninth it won't matter if we had one or two more wins against Top 100 teams.

One more game against a top team would make sense. It should have been scheduled. But when all is said and done our overall schedule will allow for plenty of opportunities to win meaningful games. All we have to do is win them.[/quote]

"And if we go top five in this conference we will be fine." - The evidence simply does not support that statement in what many are expecting to be a rebuilding year for the conference.[/quote]

Sorry I have seen no evidence. I took a look at Syracuse OOC from last year. They played and beat Maryland, Georgetown and UCONN. Lost to Kansas. Those were the notable teams. Went 8-10 in conference. Made the NCAAs.

Georgia Tech and Cal are basically Georgetown and UCONN last year. We can lose to Duke just as easily as they lost to Kansas. And top five inthe Big East will do better than 8-10. So if the BE is really down, which is said every year here in the summer (during the annual complaining about the schedule) 11-7 in the BE should still match 8-10.

That's evidence. On the other hand is non fact based opinions. I have not seen one example laying things out for that from anyone, including Braziller or Vitale.[/quote]

Syracuse actually had a great schedule, primarily because they avoid 300+ teams and played a bunch of solid mid majors:

http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Syracuse.html

Only 2 teams with RPIs about 185. 0 teams above 250. 5 top 100 teams. 3 top 25 teams.

They actually had an excellent OOC. One of the best in the nation.
 
we should have had a schedule similar to last years. This non conference is softer than my morning dump after a taco bell night
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=292215][quote="Adam" post=292213]On a side note, does anybody know who actually makes the schedule? Does Mullin have a significant input? I assume it's a group of people who make it. I'm not trying to be hyperbolic here, I am just legitimately confused as to how they could mess this up so badly. Are they seriously not aware of SOS/RPI in 2018? Nearly every fan on this board could put together a far better schedule than this.[/quote]
Last year Dan Matic did it as I now understand and Greg SJ did this time. Mullin of course would sign off on it I assume.[/quote]

Interesting. I am not surprised a different person put together this schedule, but I am surprised Greg SJ did. He's a young and technical guy.

The only thing I can think of is even if SJU disappoints again, we should still finish with more Ws than last year due to the weak schedule. If that happens though, it probably wouldn't be enough for the staff to keep their jobs. What he should be worried about is a weak SOS hurting them on Selection Sunday.
 
[quote="Valgoth" post=292233]i got tickets , my friend in NC has seasons to duke :)[/quote]

gman was there for the Bootsy game.
He had the best seats in the entire building.
 
I'm tired of reading all the "if we win all our NC except for Duke and finish at the top 4 in the Big East the schedule won't matter" garbage. If all that happens, come Selection Sunday, this board will erupt in anger because we'll be playing in the 8/9 game.

The schedule matters
 
[quote="postell25" post=292254]I'm tired of reading all the "if we win all our NC except for Duke and finish at the top 4 in the Big East the schedule won't matter" garbage. If all that happens, come Selection Sunday, this board will erupt in anger because we'll be playing in the 8/9 game.

The schedule matters[/quote]


The schedule does matter
Prime example is Nebraska
Finished 22-11 and 13-5 in the Big Ten last year (tied for 4th place)
Didn't make the NCAA tournament
Why not? Charmin soft non conference schedule
That could be us next year
Terrible scheduling job by our staff. Hope we don't have the same fate next season
 
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you guys are all imaging we win those "cupcakes", imagine we LOSE a couple or even one. That will be even more devastating to our post season NCAA hopes. No win situation with that type of schedule. Some on twitter ( we know who ) stick up for Mully but this is just poor management of the schedule. Win all but Duke game and people will say so what its an easy schedule, lose a couple and we are on the outside of the bubble. At least quality teams puts us in the argument. just my thoughts
 
Wouldn't a game at MSG vs a Mich or ND help pay off some of SJU's salary obligations as compared to a St. Francis game at CA?
 
Can’t they still schedule one more game if they wanted too? As it stands now , we have to win all of our Non conference games except for Duke and finish top 3 in the Big East to make the tournament. Hopefully, staff recognizes this and schedules one more quality game
 
[quote="postell25" post=292254]I'm tired of reading all the "if we win all our NC except for Duke and finish at the top 4 in the Big East the schedule won't matter" garbage. If all that happens, come Selection Sunday, this board will erupt in anger because we'll be playing in the 8/9 game.

The schedule matters[/quote]

We have no Athletic Director and an inexperienced assistant handling the schedule. The schedule is soft because the staff needs wins to fabricate progress. The problem is that the NCAA, the fans and Paul Biancardi won't be fooled.
I'm not even sure we have a real university president!;)
 
[quote="Mean Gene" post=292279]Can’t they still schedule one more game if they wanted too? As it stands now , we have to win all of our Non conference games except for Duke and finish top 3 in the Big East to make the tournament. Hopefully, staff recognizes this and schedules one more quality game[/quote]

They already have 13 OOC games. I've seen teams with 11 or 12 OOC games, but I don't think I've ever seen 14 OOC games.

We are only projected to play ONE Top 100 team and it's #3 away (likely huge underdogs).

I've already posted a couple dozen times on this during the past few months, but it's very frustrating. We're going to be receiving a lot of "worst OOC schedule" awards during the lead up to the season, and rightfully so. Maybe then the staff will see how dumb their schedule is, but by then it'll be too late.
 
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[quote="Class of 72" post=292282][quote="postell25" post=292254]I'm tired of reading all the "if we win all our NC except for Duke and finish at the top 4 in the Big East the schedule won't matter" garbage. If all that happens, come Selection Sunday, this board will erupt in anger because we'll be playing in the 8/9 game.

The schedule matters[/quote]

We have no Athletic Director and an inexperienced assistant handling the schedule. The schedule is soft because the staff needs wins to fabricate progress. The problem is that the NCAA, the fans and Paul Biancardi won't be fooled.
I'm not even sure we have a real university president!;)[/quote]
Better make that SOME of the fans won't be fool ed.
 
[quote="Mean Gene" post=292279]Can’t they still schedule one more game if they wanted too? As it stands now , we have to win all of our Non conference games except for Duke and finish top 3 in the Big East to make the tournament. Hopefully, staff recognizes this and schedules one more quality game[/quote]

Our schedule is maxed out - no room for another game
 
[quote="Enright" post=292261]Wouldn't a game at MSG vs a Mich or ND help pay off some of SJU's salary obligations as compared to a St. Francis game at CA?[/quote]

Either would have been a very good draw, and probably commanded a large TV audience. Problem is those schools were most likely all booked. However, Nevada, a legit top ten level team, would have jumped at a chance to play at MSG, as recently as two months ago. Also, unlike the other two, we would not have had to make a reciprocal road trip next year. Instead, we have Princeton at MSG, and a cupcake parade for the campus games.
 
didn't we have a schedule snafu last year too? i remember we had a late game added because of some snafu....but its ok because its Mully....he will bring us to the promised land. Im not gonna stay negative, at least until the season starts. I just hope all you guys come look at these posts mid season or post season. We all knew!! lol. Just like the last couple of years we knew our roster was thin, no bigs, scorers, etc....We get burned every year. Cant this agony stop? Come on johnnies win some games, make us unite once again
 
[quote="cappy105" post=292309]didn't we have a schedule snafu last year too? i remember we had a late game added because of some snafu....but its ok because its Mully....he will bring us to the promised land. Im not gonna stay negative, at least until the season starts. I just hope all you guys come look at these posts mid season or post season. We all knew!! lol. Just like the last couple of years we knew our roster was thin, no bigs, scorers, etc....We get burned every year. Cant this agony stop? Come on johnnies win some games, make us unite once again[/quote]

If memory serves me correctly, an opponent backed out and we ended up playing D-2 Molloy
There's no snafu this year
We just have a very weak non conference schedule
 
If Heron is eligible, we have the most talent we’ve had here in a while. Let’s just hope they go out there, win 26 games and put this whole issue to rest.
 
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