Zach article/Our soft OOC schedule

[jerseyshorejohnny]

Speaking of exposure, our fanbase is about to be exposed when the #3 team  rolls into NYC to play in a 60% empty arena.    I'm sure our biggest recruits invited to the game will take notice.  

I'm going to buy some extra tix next week in the hope that a layer surge in sales can make us look like the big time program it should be.

$10 student tickets available at the Belmont Arena

That said,  fees per ticket when ordering on TicketMaster plus parking are not inexpensive


 

 

[monte]

There will probably be a few thousand more fans at UBS then we would normally get at CA for a conference game against a solid opponent. So maybe the attendance winds up being 8-9k. Not sure why anyone expects the attendance to be much more than that. Even if this game is played at MSG we probably only get 10k-12k attendance. 

 

[JohnnyFan]

There will probably be a few thousand more fans at UBS then we would normally get at CA for a conference game against a solid opponent. So maybe the attendance winds up being 8-9k. Not sure why anyone expects the attendance to be much more than that. Even if this game is played at MSG we probably only get 10k-12k attendance. 

I am actually very interested to see the attendance.  I figure it could be anywhere within a range of 8k-12k.  I am going with a guess of approximately 10k.
 

 

[monte]

There will probably be a few thousand more fans at UBS then we would normally get at CA for a conference game against a solid opponent. So maybe the attendance winds up being 8-9k. Not sure why anyone expects the attendance to be much more than that. Even if this game is played at MSG we probably only get 10k-12k attendance. 

I am actually very interested to see the attendance.  I figure it could be anywhere within a range of 8k-12k.  I am going with a guess of approximately 10k

 

I said to Beast the other day that I thought it would be in the 10K range. But hearing how bad pre-sales have been, I adjusted it to 8-9k. Again, not sure what expectations were, but to me 10k is a reasonable number for this game. 

 

[bamafan]

Expecting a big walk up of 1-2 people.

 

[monte]

Expecting a big walk up of 1-2 people.

1-2k? 

 

[bamafan]

Expecting a big walk up of 1-2 people.

1-2k? 

Haha, no, one to two people it depends on if the one guy can drag his wife or friend to the game so he doesn't have to go alone.

 

[Andrew]

Trying to do the math on the attendance. A WSJ article I found says the lower bowl holds around 10K. Not sure what is going on with the behind the basket seats but most of the other seats appear to be sold. I think the 8-10K seems like a realistic estimate with hopefully closer to the 10K. Doesn't appear that the upper levels will be used.

 

[beast of the east]

 

 

[SLYFOXX1968]

The most important factor in generating Fan Attendance and Excitement is Winning !  So far , the Jury is out on this Years team .   That plus decades of poor BB affects the Crowd .  Throw in the effects of the Pandemic and this new Variant and some folks stay at home and watch on TV ..  it is the reality of our troubled times .  But , at the bottom line , if you win big games , interest will build . NJIT , St Francis , FDU, St Peters don’t build that interest .   Our AD Cragg and CMA have to develop a OOC  schedule that isn’t so cupcake loaded . Kansas will be tough , as will Colgate . Then the Pitt game and BE play starts .  

 

[boo haarvey]

The most important factor in generating Fan Attendance and Excitement is Winning !  So far , the Jury is out on this Years team .   That plus decades of poor BB affects the Crowd .  Throw in the effects of the Pandemic and this new Variant and some folks stay at home and watch on TV ..  it is the reality of our troubled times .  But , at the bottom line , if you win big games , interest will build . NJIT , St Francis , FDU, St Peters don’t build that interest .   Our AD Cragg and CMA have to develop a OOC  schedule that isn’t so cupcake loaded . Kansas will be tough , as will Colgate . Then the Pitt game and BE play starts

I am one of those fans who has  been inhibited by the pandemic.    I’ve been a season ticket holder for 20 years.  I purchased my tickets this year but got nervous with Delta and decided not to go.  I worked out a deal with the school where I kept my seats for next year and they credited  my payment this year.

 

[beast of the east]

The most important factor in generating Fan Attendance and Excitement is Winning !  So far , the Jury is out on this Years team .   That plus decades of poor BB affects the Crowd .  Throw in the effects of the Pandemic and this new Variant and some folks stay at home and watch on TV ..  it is the reality of our troubled times .  But , at the bottom line , if you win big games , interest will build . NJIT , St Francis , FDU, St Peters don’t build that interest .   Our AD Cragg and CMA have to develop a OOC  schedule that isn’t so cupcake loaded . Kansas will be tough , as will Colgate . Then the Pitt game and BE play starts .  

Considering the last Mullin season got us an NCAA bid, and two Anderson seasons brought exciting basketball, it's a crutch to say that it's winning that will bring back.   CMA's first year was suppose to be disastrous, but the team went 17-15.   Last season brought a 4th place Big East finish and BE Coach of the year award with a team led by two bonafide BE stars.   

You are right though to say winning will increase attendance, but NY fans (and most of our fan base) will only come out to games if we break the top 25 and/or challenge for the top of the Big East.    With a 37-27 record here, we are already winning, have an upwards trajectory, but our followers will only come out once we become a nationally recognized team.

 

[RedStormNC]

Hopefully UBS black curtains off the upper bowl so it looks fuller.  

When I went to the SJU /Hall game at Prudential center a few years ago, they had it curtained off and it did make it appear fuller.

If only 6K here and think MSG would have sold more at same date & time.

Maybe we just call this a "fail fast" experiment.

 

[monte]

The most important factor in generating Fan Attendance and Excitement is Winning !  So far , the Jury is out on this Years team .   That plus decades of poor BB affects the Crowd .  Throw in the effects of the Pandemic and this new Variant and some folks stay at home and watch on TV ..  it is the reality of our troubled times .  But , at the bottom line , if you win big games , interest will build . NJIT , St Francis , FDU, St Peters don’t build that interest .   Our AD Cragg and CMA have to develop a OOC  schedule that isn’t so cupcake loaded . Kansas will be tough , as will Colgate . Then the Pitt game and BE play starts .  

Considering the last Mullin season got us an NCAA bid, and two Anderson seasons brought exciting basketball, it's a crutch to say that it's winning that will bring back.   CMA's first year was suppose to be disastrous, but the team went 17-15.   Last season brought a 4th place Big East finish and BE Coach of the year award with a team led by two bonafide BE stars.   

You are right though to say winning will increase attendance, but NY fans (and most of our fan base) will only come out to games if we break the top 25 and/or challenge for the top of the Big East.    With a 37-27 record here, we are already winning, have an upwards trajectory, but our followers will only come out once we become a nationally recognized team.

Agreed. There's still no "buzz" around this team, except to our diehard fan base. One big win can quickly change that. Hopefully it happens sooner than later. Maybe even next Friday. 

 

[Knight]

Would like to see a return of the Lapchick Tournament with a local flavor-SJU, Hofstra, Iona, Manhattan, Fordham, Stony Brook, Brooklyn, in the mix.

 

[monte]

Would like to see a return of the Lapchick Tournament with a local flavor-SJU, Hofstra, Iona, Manhattan, Fordham, Stony Brook, Brooklyn, in the mix.

So would I, but think we need improve as a program before doing do, or we won't be able to continue to claim the title of "New York's Team". 

 

[MakingPlays]

Schedule really picks up in the next 4 games starting tomorrow with Kansas.

-Kansas of course is Kansas, bounced back nicely since the Dayton upset.  

-Fordham has won their last 3 games, and last 4 out of 5.  Antonio Daye, a transfer from FIU the staff looked at this summer, has been pretty good for them so far.

-Monmouth is 5-1, with a big win on the road against Cincinnati.  They have 3 road wins already.

-Colgate has lost their last 2 games, however still have a big win @Syracuse and they have most of their players returning from a tournament team last year.

Also, a note on the last non-conference game, Pitt also shouldn't be overlooked, they gave an undefeated Minnesota team all they could handle (although Minnesota has played a weak schedule).  Pitt has some winnable games, hopefully they can put together a string of wins before match-up in Madison Square Garden so it has a little bit of hype.







 

 

[beast of the east]

Would like to see a return of the Lapchick Tournament with a local flavor-SJU, Hofstra, Iona, Manhattan, Fordham, Stony Brook, Brooklyn, in the mix.

So would I, but think we need improve as a program before doing do, or we won't be able to continue to claim the title of "New York's Team". 

Since Norm Roberts was coach we always had at least one player to be reckoned with, and sometimes a few.  Anthony Mason Jr,, Harrison, Ponds, and now Champ.    Anticipating this as JC's last year, it's important for us to get a bid this year, in order to continue to grow the program and continue improvement..   I don't think Syracuse can ever be considered NY's team, but when we play them at MSG and they have 2/3 of the Garden rooting for them, they make a good case. 

 

[SLYFOXX1968]

The most important factor in generating Fan Attendance and Excitement is Winning !  So far , the Jury is out on this Years team .   That plus decades of poor BB affects the Crowd .  Throw in the effects of the Pandemic and this new Variant and some folks stay at home and watch on TV ..  it is the reality of our troubled times .  But , at the bottom line , if you win big games , interest will build . NJIT , St Francis , FDU, St Peters don’t build that interest .   Our AD Cragg and CMA have to develop a OOC  schedule that isn’t so cupcake loaded . Kansas will be tough , as will Colgate . Then the Pitt game and BE play starts .  

Considering the last Mullin season got us an NCAA bid, and two Anderson seasons brought exciting basketball, it's a crutch to say that it's winning that will bring back.   CMA's first year was suppose to be disastrous, but the team went 17-15.   Last season brought a 4th place Big East finish and BE Coach of the year award with a team led by two bonafide BE stars.   

You are right though to say winning will increase attendance, but NY fans (and most of our fan base) will only come out to games if we break the top 25 and/or challenge for the top of the Big East.    With a 37-27 record here, we are already winning, have an upwards trajectory, but our followers will only come out once we become a nationally recognized team.                       100 percent Correct !              Mid Tier BE performance is not success .  At least to the point of National  Recognition .    The Harsh Reality is that CMA needs to bring in a Top 50 program changer at some point .  Or , 3 or 4 top 100 kids in a single year .   You can’t build a long term program with Transfers or JC players .                                 

 

[ADORAZ]

We came in fourth during last year's COVID-shortened season, but I wouldn't consider it a success by Big East standards. It was a success relative to our expectations, but we didn't make the Tournament and enough of the team quit on the NIT. If we had a successful OOC and made the Tournament (or won the NIT), then that'd be different. Casual fans don't care about a Coach of the Year award, they want results and that hasn't happen yet during CMA's first 3 seasons (obviously this season is still very young, though).

We don't necessarily need to be a Top 25 team, but we do at least need to be an average Big East team. We've only made the Tournament once (as the last team in) during the past 6 seasons. I believe every Big East team with the exception of DePaul has been to the Tournament at least once during the past 6 seasons. If over the past 6 seasons we played as well as 8/10 of the other Big East teams- only excluding Georgetown and DePaul- then attendance would be better.