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[quote="gman" post=307600]I just read football now allows a player in 4 games and still eligible for a redshirt. Is there no similar rule in basketball?[/quote]

Not officially but....

By the way, it’s four games period at anytime of the season. If a player plays in one of the upcoming bowl games and that is his fourth game (or less) of this season, he is eligible for a redshirt year, no waiver or anything else required.

It is why there are conspiracy theories that Saban didn’t name Tua as his starting QB over Hurts until after the first game so he wouldn’t leave him without an experience backup and why he made sure Hurts played in the first four game (although the could have left at any time before that like Kelly Bryant of Clemson when freshman Trevor Lawrence was named the starter for the 5th game) also getting 3rd stringer Mac Jones some snaps in games. It wasn’t until Hurts played in his fifth game everyone knew he was staying (although he stated he wasn’t leaving, he can graduate after this semester and will still have a year of eligibility left, if he transferred he’d have two), Saban kept saying he needed both and he was right (even Jones got into a close game after Hurts was unavailable after arthroscopic knee surgery and Tua got hurt during a game).

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[quote="MCNPA" post=307659][quote="gman" post=307600]I just read football now allows a player in 4 games and still eligible for a redshirt. Is there no similar rule in basketball?[/quote]

I’m pretty sure that’s what he was after. If I were to bet, he’ll be ready to go in September. No reason ncaa shouldn’t clear him for that. He hadn’t played more than 4 minutes in fall semester. I think kid is gonna be real good for us too. Athletic, big body, can shoot too. Physical kid.[/quote]

Guys, it's not about the number of games or whether Steere gets a redshirt. The eligibility has nothing to do with how many games played. Even if he didn't play a minute he has to complete 2 semesters at his new school before he will be eligible as a transfer. That means eligible the day after the last day of finals next December.

To help with this think of young Sid Wilson. He didn't play a game at STJ, he didn't participate in an official practice, I'm willing to be he didn't attend a single class in the fall semester at STJ. He might have taken some summer classes but they don't count towards time eligibility issues anyway. He had to sit two full semesters at UConn. Whether the transfer is endorsed by the program the player is leaving is also a moot issue. The only thing, based on present rules, that could get him eligible earlier is a hardship case a la Heron.
 
[quote="austour" post=307669][quote="MCNPA" post=307659][quote="gman" post=307600]I just read football now allows a player in 4 games and still eligible for a redshirt. Is there no similar rule in basketball?[/quote]

I’m pretty sure that’s what he was after. If I were to bet, he’ll be ready to go in September. No reason ncaa shouldn’t clear him for that. He hadn’t played more than 4 minutes in fall semester. I think kid is gonna be real good for us too. Athletic, big body, can shoot too. Physical kid.[/quote]

Guys, it's not about the number of games or whether Steere gets a redshirt. The eligibility has nothing to do with how many games played. Even if he didn't play a minute he has to complete 2 semesters at his new school before he will be eligible as a transfer. That means eligible the day after the last day of finals next December.

To help with this think of young Sid Wilson. He didn't play a game at STJ, he didn't participate in an official practice, I'm willing to be he didn't attend a single class in the fall semester at STJ. He might have taken some summer classes but they don't count towards time eligibility issues anyway. He had to sit two full semesters at UConn. Whether the transfer is endorsed by the program the player is leaving is also a moot issue. The only thing, based on present rules, that could get him eligible earlier is a hardship case a la Heron.[/quote]

As I discussed before it is less about when he is eligible next year and more about losing a full year of eligibility because he played in 1 game this year. I agree I don't see how he gets out of sitting out thru 1st semester next year a la Sid Wilson, the issue is since WIlson did not play in a game he could use last year as his redshirt year and keep 4 years of total eligibility. Steere is probably going to ask for that as well but he will need a waiver since technically he burned his full year as soon as he stepped on the floor. So the question is when he suits up next year is he a redshirt freshman or a sophomore? Don't see him getting out of sitting thru mid-December next year either way.
 
[quote="fordham96" post=307680][quote="austour" post=307669][quote="MCNPA" post=307659][quote="gman" post=307600]I just read football now allows a player in 4 games and still eligible for a redshirt. Is there no similar rule in basketball?[/quote]

I’m pretty sure that’s what he was after. If I were to bet, he’ll be ready to go in September. No reason ncaa shouldn’t clear him for that. He hadn’t played more than 4 minutes in fall semester. I think kid is gonna be real good for us too. Athletic, big body, can shoot too. Physical kid.[/quote]

Guys, it's not about the number of games or whether Steere gets a redshirt. The eligibility has nothing to do with how many games played. Even if he didn't play a minute he has to complete 2 semesters at his new school before he will be eligible as a transfer. That means eligible the day after the last day of finals next December.

To help with this think of young Sid Wilson. He didn't play a game at STJ, he didn't participate in an official practice, I'm willing to be he didn't attend a single class in the fall semester at STJ. He might have taken some summer classes but they don't count towards time eligibility issues anyway. He had to sit two full semesters at UConn. Whether the transfer is endorsed by the program the player is leaving is also a moot issue. The only thing, based on present rules, that could get him eligible earlier is a hardship case a la Heron.[/quote]

As I discussed before it is less about when he is eligible next year and more about losing a full year of eligibility because he played in 1 game this year. I agree I don't see how he gets out of sitting out thru 1st semester next year a la Sid Wilson, the issue is since WIlson did not play in a game he could use last year as his redshirt year and keep 4 years of total eligibility. Steere is probably going to ask for that as well but he will need a waiver since technically he burned his full year as soon as he stepped on the floor. So the question is when he suits up next year is he a redshirt freshman or a sophomore? Don't see him getting out of sitting thru mid-December next year either way.[/quote]

Truth be told, I’m ok with that. He will be ready for the main part of the season. And at worst case scenario, he will have 3 years eligibility. That’s a pretty good deal for us. Kid looks like he can be a beast for us...
 
[quote="MCNPA" post=307692][quote="fordham96" post=307680][quote="austour" post=307669][quote="MCNPA" post=307659][quote="gman" post=307600]I just read football now allows a player in 4 games and still eligible for a redshirt. Is there no similar rule in basketball?[/quote]

I’m pretty sure that’s what he was after. If I were to bet, he’ll be ready to go in September. No reason ncaa shouldn’t clear him for that. He hadn’t played more than 4 minutes in fall semester. I think kid is gonna be real good for us too. Athletic, big body, can shoot too. Physical kid.[/quote]

Guys, it's not about the number of games or whether Steere gets a redshirt. The eligibility has nothing to do with how many games played. Even if he didn't play a minute he has to complete 2 semesters at his new school before he will be eligible as a transfer. That means eligible the day after the last day of finals next December.

To help with this think of young Sid Wilson. He didn't play a game at STJ, he didn't participate in an official practice, I'm willing to be he didn't attend a single class in the fall semester at STJ. He might have taken some summer classes but they don't count towards time eligibility issues anyway. He had to sit two full semesters at UConn. Whether the transfer is endorsed by the program the player is leaving is also a moot issue. The only thing, based on present rules, that could get him eligible earlier is a hardship case a la Heron.[/quote]

As I discussed before it is less about when he is eligible next year and more about losing a full year of eligibility because he played in 1 game this year. I agree I don't see how he gets out of sitting out thru 1st semester next year a la Sid Wilson, the issue is since WIlson did not play in a game he could use last year as his redshirt year and keep 4 years of total eligibility. Steere is probably going to ask for that as well but he will need a waiver since technically he burned his full year as soon as he stepped on the floor. So the question is when he suits up next year is he a redshirt freshman or a sophomore? Don't see him getting out of sitting thru mid-December next year either way.[/quote]

Truth be told, I’m ok with that. He will be ready for the main part of the season. And at worst case scenario, he will have 3 years eligibility. That’s a pretty good deal for us. Kid looks like he can be a beast for us...[/quote]

Lets remember next years schedule is shaping up to be pretty tough.
 
[quote="austour" post=307669][quote="MCNPA" post=307659][quote="gman" post=307600]I just read football now allows a player in 4 games and still eligible for a redshirt. Is there no similar rule in basketball?[/quote]

I’m pretty sure that’s what he was after. If I were to bet, he’ll be ready to go in September. No reason ncaa shouldn’t clear him for that. He hadn’t played more than 4 minutes in fall semester. I think kid is gonna be real good for us too. Athletic, big body, can shoot too. Physical kid.[/quote]

Guys, it's not about the number of games or whether Steere gets a redshirt. The eligibility has nothing to do with how many games played. Even if he didn't play a minute he has to complete 2 semesters at his new school before he will be eligible as a transfer. That means eligible the day after the last day of finals next December.

To help with this think of young Sid Wilson. He didn't play a game at STJ, he didn't participate in an official practice, I'm willing to be he didn't attend a single class in the fall semester at STJ. He might have taken some summer classes but they don't count towards time eligibility issues anyway. He had to sit two full semesters at UConn. Whether the transfer is endorsed by the program the player is leaving is also a moot issue. The only thing, based on present rules, that could get him eligible earlier is a hardship case a la Heron.[/quote]

So he has one semester starting now, can he make up the other during the summer sessions?
 
[quote="Moose" post=307720][quote="MCNPA" post=307692][quote="fordham96" post=307680][quote="austour" post=307669][quote="MCNPA" post=307659][quote="gman" post=307600]I just read football now allows a player in 4 games and still eligible for a redshirt. Is there no similar rule in basketball?[/quote]

I’m pretty sure that’s what he was after. If I were to bet, he’ll be ready to go in September. No reason ncaa shouldn’t clear him for that. He hadn’t played more than 4 minutes in fall semester. I think kid is gonna be real good for us too. Athletic, big body, can shoot too. Physical kid.[/quote]

Guys, it's not about the number of games or whether Steere gets a redshirt. The eligibility has nothing to do with how many games played. Even if he didn't play a minute he has to complete 2 semesters at his new school before he will be eligible as a transfer. That means eligible the day after the last day of finals next December.

To help with this think of young Sid Wilson. He didn't play a game at STJ, he didn't participate in an official practice, I'm willing to be he didn't attend a single class in the fall semester at STJ. He might have taken some summer classes but they don't count towards time eligibility issues anyway. He had to sit two full semesters at UConn. Whether the transfer is endorsed by the program the player is leaving is also a moot issue. The only thing, based on present rules, that could get him eligible earlier is a hardship case a la Heron.[/quote]

As I discussed before it is less about when he is eligible next year and more about losing a full year of eligibility because he played in 1 game this year. I agree I don't see how he gets out of sitting out thru 1st semester next year a la Sid Wilson, the issue is since WIlson did not play in a game he could use last year as his redshirt year and keep 4 years of total eligibility. Steere is probably going to ask for that as well but he will need a waiver since technically he burned his full year as soon as he stepped on the floor. So the question is when he suits up next year is he a redshirt freshman or a sophomore? Don't see him getting out of sitting thru mid-December next year either way.[/quote]

Truth be told, I’m ok with that. He will be ready for the main part of the season. And at worst case scenario, he will have 3 years eligibility. That’s a pretty good deal for us. Kid looks like he can be a beast for us...[/quote]

Lets remember next years schedule is shaping up to be pretty tough.[/quote]

Yeah we will need him. Hopefully we will have Keita available meanwhile.
 
[quote="austour" post=307669][quote="MCNPA" post=307659][quote="gman" post=307600]I just read football now allows a player in 4 games and still eligible for a redshirt. Is there no similar rule in basketball?[/quote]

I’m pretty sure that’s what he was after. If I were to bet, he’ll be ready to go in September. No reason ncaa shouldn’t clear him for that. He hadn’t played more than 4 minutes in fall semester. I think kid is gonna be real good for us too. Athletic, big body, can shoot too. Physical kid.[/quote]

Guys, it's not about the number of games or whether Steere gets a redshirt. The eligibility has nothing to do with how many games played. Even if he didn't play a minute he has to complete 2 semesters at his new school before he will be eligible as a transfer. That means eligible the day after the last day of finals next December.

To help with this think of young Sid Wilson. He didn't play a game at STJ, he didn't participate in an official practice, I'm willing to be he didn't attend a single class in the fall semester at STJ. He might have taken some summer classes but they don't count towards time eligibility issues anyway. He had to sit two full semesters at UConn. Whether the transfer is endorsed by the program the player is leaving is also a moot issue. The only thing, based on present rules, that could get him eligible earlier is a hardship case a la Heron.[/quote]

Apparently in football it does matter how many games you play. An Auburn kid is transferring because the staff burned his redshirt by playing him in more than 4 games. I find it interesting that one sport has the rule and another doesn't. 4 games in football is 1/3rd the season.

https://sports.yahoo.com/auburn-rb-...lly-burned-redshirt-174024454.html?guccounter=1

A new NCAA rule allows players to play in up to four games and still redshirt a season.
 
[quote="gman" post=307746]

Apparently in football it does matter how many games you play. An Auburn kid is transferring because the staff burned his redshirt by playing him in more than 4 games. I find it interesting that one sport has the rule and another doesn't. 4 games in football is 1/3rd the season.

https://sports.yahoo.com/auburn-rb-...lly-burned-redshirt-174024454.html?guccounter=1

A new NCAA rule allows players to play in up to four games and still redshirt a season. [/quote]

Quick question on this football redshirt thing, is it a medical redshirt? NCAA hoops used to have a medical redshirt policy that if you lost your season to injury and played in less than 30% of your team's regular season games, and no post season, you could claim a redshirt. Not sure if that rule is still in effect. Again, like Fordham said this doesn't affect eligibility for transfers. Non Medical redshirts have been strictly stated as being lost with even a minute of competition during any regular season game not sure if or how often they grant exemptions.
 
[quote="fordham96" post=307680]
As I discussed before it is less about when he is eligible next year and more about losing a full year of eligibility because he played in 1 game this year. I agree I don't see how he gets out of sitting out thru 1st semester next year a la Sid Wilson, the issue is since WIlson did not play in a game he could use last year as his redshirt year and keep 4 years of total eligibility. Steere is probably going to ask for that as well but he will need a waiver since technically he burned his full year as soon as he stepped on the floor. So the question is when he suits up next year is he a redshirt freshman or a sophomore? Don't see him getting out of sitting thru mid-December next year either way.[/quote]

Exactly it's two different issues. First question is when can he play. Answer has to be after the first semester next season. Second question is how long can he play. This answer I'm not sure of but I think it'll end up being 3 more seasons (or 2 1/2 if you want to look at next season as 1/2). I don't see how he gets a redshirt just because he changed his mind, in fact I don't understand why he didn't just play out the semester even if he thought he was leaving and still transfer this winter. In either case it should end up looking like Branch's STJ career longevity.
 
[quote="austour" post=307806][quote="gman" post=307746]

Apparently in football it does matter how many games you play. An Auburn kid is transferring because the staff burned his redshirt by playing him in more than 4 games. I find it interesting that one sport has the rule and another doesn't. 4 games in football is 1/3rd the season.

https://sports.yahoo.com/auburn-rb-...lly-burned-redshirt-174024454.html?guccounter=1

A new NCAA rule allows players to play in up to four games and still redshirt a season. [/quote]

Quick question on this football redshirt thing, is it a medical redshirt? NCAA hoops used to have a medical redshirt policy that if you lost your season to injury and played in less than 30% of your team's regular season games, and no post season, you could claim a redshirt. Not sure if that rule is still in effect. Again, like Fordham said this doesn't affect eligibility for transfers. Non Medical redshirts have been strictly stated as being lost with even a minute of competition during any regular season game not sure if or how often they grant exemptions.[/quote]

The article says he played in 4 games and then talked about redshirting because he wasn't being used much. No mention of injury.
 
Saw him at the Hall game last night. Expect he will be able to provide much needed muscle for our interior defense.
 
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