Welcome Caraher

Paultz, sometimes I wonder if you're secretly Matt A, St. Jean, Mullin, or Goff. Either that or you can tolerate a lot more failure than I can...in a good way. I agree, let's wait and see what the roster looks like and what big we get. That being said, it's pretty clear that Mullin desperately needs a real assistant. That can't be spun into "just wait and see" IMO. Again, he's solidly on the hot seat according to every major college hoops pundit and it's obvious to everyone who isn't biased. There's smoke coming from the windows and there are some in denial of the fire inside the building. Imagine going up to a person watching smoke billowing from the windows of an office building and saying "there's no fire...it's just your imagination". They'd look at you cock-eyed. Mullin gets one more year to show he can have even mild success. I just think fans have seen this movie before and it usually doesn't end as nicely as you seem to imply it will.

Caraher is a good get but I'm not letting that cloud next year's importance or the obvious absence of a solid big transfer and lack of big man development.
 
[quote="simplyred" post=281494][quote="david cross" post=281493]Why does everyone think this is a good transfer? I think staff is scrambling to fill the roster and going into your 4th year this should not be the case. Caraher sounds like a good young man, but I for am not enthusiastic about this transfer.[/quote]
We’re an optimistic fan base.[/quote]
And a desperate one as well.
 
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THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE CM gas 1yr to impress nut not beyond Personally , I think Georgetown is doing better than us
 
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=281495]Paultz, sometimes I wonder if you're secretly Matt A, St. Jean, Mullin, or Goff. Either that or you can tolerate a lot more failure than I can...in a good way. I agree, let's wait and see what the roster looks like and what big we get. That being said, it's pretty clear that Mullin desperately needs a real assistant. That can't be spun into "just wait and see" IMO. Again, he's solidly on the hot seat according to every major college hoops pundit and it's obvious to everyone who isn't biased. There's smoke coming from the windows and there are some in denial of the fire inside the building. Imagine going up to a person watching smoke billowing from the windows of an office building and saying "there's no fire...it's just your imagination". They'd look at you cock-eyed. Mullin gets one more year to show he can have even mild success. I just think fans have seen this movie before and it usually doesn't end as nicely as you seem to imply it will.

Caraher is a good get but I'm not letting that cloud next year's importance or the obvious absence of a solid big transfer and lack of big man development.[/quote]

Someone posted...”Mullin gets one more year”, really? And then what? Who’s the coach that represents an improvement over what CM is seeking to do.
It’s April 2018. Chris Mullin was hired in April 2015. It’s old news but true: he inherited nothing. No bench, heck no starters either. Each year we have made progress, modest progress.
Always sooo much easier to critique then to resolve.
Whether a parent. a teacher, a coach, a poster ... easier to bitch and moan then chill and reflect on what constructive options might exist.
I’m not sure what the “ solution” is but parting ways with our current coach might not pan
out. Starting over with still another regime hmmm.
Time for more patience imho. I can’t stand losing. But time to take a breath. Maybe close the board for a few months.

It’s not Syria. It’s not N Korea. It’s not people being cleansed off the map. It’s a mere college sports game for god’s sakes.
And BTW one of these days Chris Mullin might just decide he’s had enough and walks...would be interesting to see what’s posted then by those so disgusted with the CM program circa 2015-18.
All the best.


PS sorry if this would’ve been better in the Mullin topic - ‘my bad’
 
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[quote="Sherman, Sheridan & Grant" post=281657][quote="Mike Zaun" post=281495]Paultz, sometimes I wonder if you're secretly Matt A, St. Jean, Mullin, or Goff. Either that or you can tolerate a lot more failure than I can...in a good way. I agree, let's wait and see what the roster looks like and what big we get. That being said, it's pretty clear that Mullin desperately needs a real assistant. That can't be spun into "just wait and see" IMO. Again, he's solidly on the hot seat according to every major college hoops pundit and it's obvious to everyone who isn't biased. There's smoke coming from the windows and there are some in denial of the fire inside the building. Imagine going up to a person watching smoke billowing from the windows of an office building and saying "there's no fire...it's just your imagination". They'd look at you cock-eyed. Mullin gets one more year to show he can have even mild success. I just think fans have seen this movie before and it usually doesn't end as nicely as you seem to imply it will.

Caraher is a good get but I'm not letting that cloud next year's importance or the obvious absence of a solid big transfer and lack of big man development.[/quote]

Someone posted...”Mullin gets one more year”, really? And then what? Who’s the coach that represents an improvement over what CM is seeking to do.
It’s April 2018. Chris Mullin was hired in April 2015. It’s old news but true: he inherited nothing. No bench, heck no starters either. Each year we have made progress, modest progress.
Always sooo much easier to critique then to resolve.
Whether a parent. a teacher, a coach, a poster ... easier to bitch and moan then chill and reflect on what constructive options might exist.
I’m not sure what the “ solution” is but parting ways with our current coach might not pan
out. Starting over with still another regime hmmm.
Time for more patience imho. I can’t stand losing. But time to take a breath. Maybe close the board for a few months.

It’s not Syria. It’s not N Korea. It’s not people being cleansed off the map. It’s a mere college sports game for god’s sakes.
And BTW one of these days Chris Mullin might just decide he’s had enough and walks...would be interesting to see what’s posted then by those so disgusted with the CM program circa 2015-18.
All the best.


PS sorry if this would’ve been better in the Mullin topic - ‘my bad’[/quote]

Now there are a million what ifs, right? We won 6 out of our last 10 against Big East competition plus Duke, 5 out of our last 8 if you don't count the BET.

Let's say for a moment that the loss of Lovett hadn't set the team on their heels quite so badly and they merely won 4 out of 11 games. That's an extremely reasonable number to presume considerably how they closed the season.

If that happened, instead of an overall record of 16-17, we would have had a very respectable 20-13 record, 8-10 in conference. Considering how well they played for the final 1/3 of the season, there's little doubt that if they played those 11 games over, they would have won at least 4. 20-13 puts us probably on the short side of the bubble (unless you are Syracuse).

That's reason for my optimism, because what I am putting forth there is not a stretch by any means. The team that put the balls away this season was pretty damned good, good enough to split with the eventual national champion, giving them a good run for their money in the loss.

It happened, it's unfortunate, but even the very good 1975 team couldn't beat the eventual national champion on our home court no less.

So for all this griping, this was a team that dug a very big hole by not being able for 11 games to overcome the loss of Lovett. Almost miraculously they did right the ship, and finished with respect. Anyone who thinks those last 10 games were a fluke , just doesn't want to acknocledge what was right there in front of us.
 
[quote="Beast of the East" post=281790][quote="Sherman, Sheridan & Grant" post=281657][quote="Mike Zaun" post=281495]Paultz, sometimes I wonder if you're secretly Matt A, St. Jean, Mullin, or Goff. Either that or you can tolerate a lot more failure than I can...in a good way. I agree, let's wait and see what the roster looks like and what big we get. That being said, it's pretty clear that Mullin desperately needs a real assistant. That can't be spun into "just wait and see" IMO. Again, he's solidly on the hot seat according to every major college hoops pundit and it's obvious to everyone who isn't biased. There's smoke coming from the windows and there are some in denial of the fire inside the building. Imagine going up to a person watching smoke billowing from the windows of an office building and saying "there's no fire...it's just your imagination". They'd look at you cock-eyed. Mullin gets one more year to show he can have even mild success. I just think fans have seen this movie before and it usually doesn't end as nicely as you seem to imply it will.

Caraher is a good get but I'm not letting that cloud next year's importance or the obvious absence of a solid big transfer and lack of big man development.[/quote]

Someone posted...”Mullin gets one more year”, really? And then what? Who’s the coach that represents an improvement over what CM is seeking to do.
It’s April 2018. Chris Mullin was hired in April 2015. It’s old news but true: he inherited nothing. No bench, heck no starters either. Each year we have made progress, modest progress.
Always sooo much easier to critique then to resolve.
Whether a parent. a teacher, a coach, a poster ... easier to bitch and moan then chill and reflect on what constructive options might exist.
I’m not sure what the “ solution” is but parting ways with our current coach might not pan
out. Starting over with still another regime hmmm.
Time for more patience imho. I can’t stand losing. But time to take a breath. Maybe close the board for a few months.

It’s not Syria. It’s not N Korea. It’s not people being cleansed off the map. It’s a mere college sports game for god’s sakes.
And BTW one of these days Chris Mullin might just decide he’s had enough and walks...would be interesting to see what’s posted then by those so disgusted with the CM program circa 2015-18.
All the best.


PS sorry if this would’ve been better in the Mullin topic - ‘my bad’[/quote]

Now there are a million what ifs, right? We won 6 out of our last 10 against Big East competition plus Duke, 5 out of our last 8 if you don't count the BET.

Let's say for a moment that the loss of Lovett hadn't set the team on their heels quite so badly and they merely won 4 out of 11 games. That's an extremely reasonable number to presume considerably how they closed the season.

If that happened, instead of an overall record of 16-17, we would have had a very respectable 20-13 record, 8-10 in conference. Considering how well they played for the final 1/3 of the season, there's little doubt that if they played those 11 games over, they would have won at least 4. 20-13 puts us probably on the short side of the bubble (unless you are Syracuse).

That's reason for my optimism, because what I am putting forth there is not a stretch by any means. The team that put the balls away this season was pretty damned good, good enough to split with the eventual national champion, giving them a good run for their money in the loss.

It happened, it's unfortunate, but even the very good 1975 team couldn't beat the eventual national champion on our home court no less.

So for all this griping, this was a team that dug a very big hole by not being able for 11 games to overcome the loss of Lovett. Almost miraculously they did right the ship, and finished with respect. Anyone who thinks those last 10 games were a fluke , just doesn't want to acknocledge what was right there in front of us.[/quote]

Good points Beast. I'm proud the team didn't quit through most of that dismal 11-game stretch of BEC losses, except for the DePaul and Butler games. I think it bodes well for the future.
I am disappointed that our search for that elusive 'big' looks bleak, but hopeful that we're able to get LJF for next season.
If so, we'll go into the season with 10 active payers, 6 of whom look to be solid BEC-caliber guys (Ponds, Simon, Clark, Figueroa, Keita, Dixon). We lack depth in 'bangers', but we should shoot some lights out--hopefully enough to win 21-22 games before the Dance.
Plus, it's looking very plausible that our roster will have some solid - very good sit-out transfers, ready for the 2019-20 season
All-in-all, setting us up for a good-solid 2019 recruiting 'harvest' and the future.
Let's go Johnnies..
 
I understand the big man fixation but our three point shooting left plenty to be desired after losing Lovett. Dixon and Figueroa (if he comes) address that nicely. Carreher and Wright also project as perimeter threats. This is needed, the game as evolved and you can't have enough shooters.
 
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[quote="IDRAFT" post=281796]I understand the big man fixation but our three point shooting left plenty to be desired after losing Lovett. Dixon and Figueroa (if he comes) address that nicely. Carreher and Wright also project as perimeter threats. This is needed, the game as evolved and you can't have enough shooters.[/quote]

Part of the 3pt issue is lack of big man. Having an interior threat means that the defense has to guard both. When the defense knows that nothing is going inside then the perimeter gets more attention.
 
[quote="Paul Massell" post=281798][quote="IDRAFT" post=281796]I understand the big man fixation but our three point shooting left plenty to be desired after losing Lovett. Dixon and Figueroa (if he comes) address that nicely. Carreher and Wright also project as perimeter threats. This is needed, the game as evolved and you can't have enough shooters.[/quote]

Part of the 3pt issue is lack of big man. Having an interior threat means that the defense has to guard both. When the defense knows that nothing is going inside then the perimeter gets more attention.[/quote]

Both solid points, IDRAFT & Paul. It's complicated.
Losing LoVett dramatically impacted our outside shooting effectiveness--not to mention 4-5 'wins' and perhaps a ticket to the Dance.
Believe me, I lament the lack of depth of BEC-quality 'bigs' on the team, but Dixon might be LoVett-deja vu from the outside (his shooting, not penetration).
Plus, LJF, should we get him, may be a game-changer: a scorer potentially 'equal' to Ponds, aided by Simon & Clark & Keita (and the aforementioned Dixon) to form very tough 6-man rotation, with 'some' help from GW, JR, Earlington.
And Caraher, maybe EW, and ?? on the roster, ready for 2019-20.
So, while the team doesn't look like we thought and hoped it would, things may not be so dire as the more pessimistic surmise.
In fact, things may actually look 'good' for a dance next season.
We shall see.
 
[quote="Sherman, Sheridan & Grant" post=281657][quote="Mike Zaun" post=281495]Paultz, sometimes I wonder if you're secretly Matt A, St. Jean, Mullin, or Goff. Either that or you can tolerate a lot more failure than I can...in a good way. I agree, let's wait and see what the roster looks like and what big we get. That being said, it's pretty clear that Mullin desperately needs a real assistant. That can't be spun into "just wait and see" IMO. Again, he's solidly on the hot seat according to every major college hoops pundit and it's obvious to everyone who isn't biased. There's smoke coming from the windows and there are some in denial of the fire inside the building. Imagine going up to a person watching smoke billowing from the windows of an office building and saying "there's no fire...it's just your imagination". They'd look at you cock-eyed. Mullin gets one more year to show he can have even mild success. I just think fans have seen this movie before and it usually doesn't end as nicely as you seem to imply it will.

Caraher is a good get but I'm not letting that cloud next year's importance or the obvious absence of a solid big transfer and lack of big man development.[/quote]

Someone posted...”Mullin gets one more year”, really? And then what? Who’s the coach that represents an improvement over what CM is seeking to do.
It’s April 2018. Chris Mullin was hired in April 2015. It’s old news but true: he inherited nothing. No bench, heck no starters either. Each year we have made progress, modest progress.
Always sooo much easier to critique then to resolve.
Whether a parent. a teacher, a coach, a poster ... easier to bitch and moan then chill and reflect on what constructive options might exist.
I’m not sure what the “ solution” is but parting ways with our current coach might not pan
out. Starting over with still another regime hmmm.
Time for more patience imho. I can’t stand losing. But time to take a breath. Maybe close the board for a few months.

It’s not Syria. It’s not N Korea. It’s not people being cleansed off the map. It’s a mere college sports game for god’s sakes.
And BTW one of these days Chris Mullin might just decide he’s had enough and walks...would be interesting to see what’s posted then by those so disgusted with the CM program circa 2015-18.
All the best.


PS sorry if this would’ve been better in the Mullin topic - ‘my bad’[/quote]

Sir, that is way too intelligent a post for this board. Very well said.
 
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