My wife is in a high risk category. She will be eligible for the vaccine soon. She has friends I believe @ J and J that have been talking about how 'normal' vaccines take 4-5 years to get approved. For that reason, she is afraid and basically won't take it. She won't leave the house. I worry for her physical and at this point her mental well being. I believe some people have made points about how this vaccine is different which is why it was approved so quickly?
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- Thread starter Eric
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Now, if everyone (fed/state) could figure out the logistics of how to quickly deploy what's been produced.
Spocky Ramone
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The J&J and Astra Zeneca are different fromthe first two which are mRNA vaccines while the latter are DNA and use a flu-like virus to enter the cell instead of an artifical coating. This is a more well-studied technology and apparentlhy is not as fragile as the first two. Don't ask me anything else because I am pushing the envelope of my immunology knowledge. Apparently there are 64 vaccines in clinical trials which is quite a lineup -very deep bench.mjmaherjr" post=410751 said:
They are rolling out the AstraZeneca vaccine aggressively here in the U.K. they are giving only the 1st shot and then wait 12 weeks for the second shot. They are hoping to get a good chunk of the population done by Easter. The really important thing is that is just needs a normal refrigerator which means every GP in the country can administer it.
beast of the east
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Two things I very much like about you: your humility, and readiness to admit the boundaries of your expertise. When you left St. John's the university lost an incredibly engaging professor who made a very difficult course fun and interesting and humorous. I know people here like to post under a veil of anonymity, so I hope I haven't blown yours by acknowledging that you are perhaps one of the best professors SJU has ever had in the college of pharmacy. I will stop by not explaining where you taught for the bulk of your career, lol.ctstorm" post=410776 said:
The government should have thought a little more outside the box and have vaccines shipped to McDonald's and Taco Bell's. Drive through get a Chalupa or McMuffin and get a vaccine shot as part of the value meals. Trump loves McDonald's so not sure why I have to come up with brilliant ideas like this when I'm hungry 
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See link to update on new COVID variant from The Atlantic. Sounds like this could get really, really bad instead of just really bad:
[URL]https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2020/12/virus-mutation-catastrophe/617531/[/URL]]The Mutated Coronavirus Is a Ticking Time Bomb - The Atlantic[/url]
[URL]https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2020/12/virus-mutation-catastrophe/617531/[/URL]]The Mutated Coronavirus Is a Ticking Time Bomb - The Atlantic[/url]
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Thanks for your respnse, which I would imagine just narrowly qualifies as a non-political post.
Regarding Pfizer, they got a $1.95 billion deal with the government’s Operation Warp Speed to deliver 100 million doses of the vaccine. The arrangement is an advance-purchase agreement, meaning that the company doesn’t get paid until/unless they deliver the vaccines. Pfizer did not accept federal funding to help develop or manufacture the vaccine, unlike front-runners Moderna and AstraZeneca. ([URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/10/health/was-the-pfizer-vaccine-part-of-the-governments-operation-warp-speed.html[/URL]]NY Times -11/10/20[/url])
As far as vaccine distribution, this is the most significant health/economic crisis of our lifetimes. The federal government took the lead on purchasing and now controls supply of the vaccine which is the most critical resource on the planet. "Leaving it up to the states" has already proven to be a failed approach when it comes to pandemic response. The federal government needs to execute with more urgency and, whether they like it or not, they do bare responsibility for this rollout. If their strategy is "leaving it up to the states" and that fails, they are responsibile. The governement's chief function is to protect it's people.
Yes, CTstorm read my post correctly, I was referring to AstraZeneca's trial reports (not Moderna). But, considering your graduate course, I will defer to you on that.
Thanks for your respnse, which I would imagine just narrowly qualifies as a non-political post.
Regarding Pfizer, they got a $1.95 billion deal with the government’s Operation Warp Speed to deliver 100 million doses of the vaccine. The arrangement is an advance-purchase agreement, meaning that the company doesn’t get paid until/unless they deliver the vaccines. Pfizer did not accept federal funding to help develop or manufacture the vaccine, unlike front-runners Moderna and AstraZeneca. ([URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/10/health/was-the-pfizer-vaccine-part-of-the-governments-operation-warp-speed.html[/URL]]NY Times -11/10/20[/url])
As far as vaccine distribution, this is the most significant health/economic crisis of our lifetimes. The federal government took the lead on purchasing and now controls supply of the vaccine which is the most critical resource on the planet. "Leaving it up to the states" has already proven to be a failed approach when it comes to pandemic response. The federal government needs to execute with more urgency and, whether they like it or not, they do bare responsibility for this rollout. If their strategy is "leaving it up to the states" and that fails, they are responsibile. The governement's chief function is to protect it's people.
Yes, CTstorm read my post correctly, I was referring to AstraZeneca's trial reports (not Moderna). But, considering your graduate course, I will defer to you on that.
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beast of the east
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Friends don't have to agree on everything. A good 2021 reminder or resolution to always keep that in mind.