Vaccine

[quote="ctstorm" post=410051][quote="Beast of the East" post=409782][quote="ctstorm" post=409760][quote="Beast of the East" post=409743]Here's a pretty good explanation as to how we got a vaccine so fast.

Prior to the Covid vaccine now being administered, the fastest development of a vaccine was 4 years, for mumps in the 1960s.

[URL]https://www.huffpost.com/entry...-were-made-so-fast_n_5fd27425c5b68ce1718664e7[/URL]

America led the way, and because this millions of lives will be saved.[/quote]

33 years and counting for a vaccine for AIDS.[/quote]

Of course, on this subject, I'd yield to your expertise.[/quote]

No expertise, just reinforcing your point about what an accomplishment this has been, especially taking a gamble on an unproven technology.[/quote]

I'm not sure whose idea it was in Washington to make the investment that allowed drug companies to collapse the research, moving on to step 2 by eliminating the typical wait until successful step 1 results, etc. By taking the financial risk and not the participating companies, we got a vaccine quickly by the fed government assuming the financial risk (of only $10 billion). That is worthy of 10 nobel prizes, and every awrding body's person of the year, and far more important than anything Fauci has said. (I happen to like Fauci a lot, but also felt his role was not to balance economic impact, just to report what was in the best public interest health wise. His was appropriately "A voice" and it wasn't his job to shape all policy in the best public interest).

God we can argue about this, but the bottom line is we got 2 vaccines in breathtaking speed, faster than anyone (well almost) thought was humanly safely possible. As a result, presuming this UK Covid strain is treatable by this vaccine or a tweak to it, we can now envision resuming a normal life soon.
 
[quote="EliteBaller K" post=410089]https://us.cnn.com/2020/12/20/health/walter-reed-covid-19-variant/index.html

I pray the more contagious one isn't vaccine resistant.

It's spreading to other European countries.[/quote] How the federal govt hasn't banned the 6 flights a day to JFK from London is mind boggling
 
[quote="mjmaherjr" post=410091][quote="EliteBaller K" post=410089]https://us.cnn.com/2020/12/20/health/walter-reed-covid-19-variant/index.html

I pray the more contagious one isn't vaccine resistant.

It's spreading to other European countries.[/quote] How the federal govt hasn't banned the 6 flights a day to JFK from London is mind boggling[/quote]

Mike just maybe these f's don't give a crap, and yes I really believe that. I mean a child would tell you to bar them from coming, honestly it doesn't take a genius.
 
Guys, please don't tread any further to the dark side from here....
 
[quote="OhioFan" post=410097]Guys, please don't tread any further to the dark side from here....[/quote]

Dark side? Maybe we're just worried about this thing, and want the government to do a little more before it's to late like last year, barring Chinese to late.

Oh excuse me, the thread is about the "vaccine" I'll try to do better to stay on track.
 
Not a doctor or in the medical field but a long time friend from High School is a doctor of immunology at Cleveland clinic, He has been on top of info on Covid from early on with warnings to me and our other friends. I did not go to the Marquette game on 3/7 at MSG but rather "headed for the hills" to our home in NE PA and have been there virtually since. He stressed the basics of masking, sanitizing of hands and counters, ets, social distancing which we have followed. When the vax results came out he said they looked good and then when cleared by the government, he said we should all get the vax as soon as it would be available for us as he and his wife (also a doctor) would be getting it when their turn came. SO as to the vax, my wife and I look forward to when our number will be called and roll up our sleeves and get the shot and the follow-up. My friend also believes that this could need follow ups like the regular influenza shots we currently get.

Stay safe, mask up (I like the new options as you can get different masks for different occassions, wearing Christmas ones now, already have my St. Pat's and NY Eve for celebrating at home. Masks are now "fashion statements besides protective gear. A company that I purchase my bow ties from now sells masks to match the ties and plus fours),
 
About 35 years ago, I took my one and only flu shot. Within a few days, I became violently ill. Very high fever, chills, body aches and other typical symptoms. Never got hospitalized, but at my age now I would have to end up there.

So am I taking the vaccine? Yes. I will take my chances that I'm not somehow one of a tiny group that will have adverse reactions to the vaccine. It's time to start living again.
 
[quote="BrooklynRed" post=410136]Not a doctor or in the medical field but a long time friend from High School is a doctor of immunology at Cleveland clinic, He has been on top of info on Covid from early on with warnings to me and our other friends. I did not go to the Marquette game on 3/7 at MSG but rather "headed for the hills" to our home in NE PA and have been there virtually since. He stressed the basics of masking, sanitizing of hands and counters, ets, social distancing which we have followed. When the vax results came out he said they looked good and then when cleared by the government, he said we should all get the vax as soon as it would be available for us as he and his wife (also a doctor) would be getting it when their turn came. SO as to the vax, my wife and I look forward to when our number will be called and roll up our sleeves and get the shot and the follow-up. My friend also believes that this could need follow ups like the regular influenza shots we currently get.

Stay safe, mask up (I like the new options as you can get different masks for different occassions, wearing Christmas ones now, already have my St. Pat's and NY Eve for celebrating at home. Masks are now "fashion statements besides protective gear. A company that I purchase my bow ties from now sells masks to match the ties and plus fours),[/quote] love the Xmas masks to tide me over till I can get the vaccine. I’ll definitely get a St Pats mask that’s a great idea ! [attachment=1782]FEFBFAA3-32B9-4D51-A08D-13416E617008.jpeg[/attachment] [attachment=1783]B8990EA7-C1C3-4C61-8EDE-92CADF46E559.jpeg[/attachment] [attachment=1784]5F4DCC7D-E3C7-4361-8F14-E3BEC086E5CD.jpeg[/attachment] [attachment=1785]714C3043-9D43-41A5-916E-29FF43F17266.jpeg[/attachment]
 
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[quote="Ray Morgan" post=410145]About 35 years ago, I took my one and only flu shot. Within a few days, I became violently ill. Very high fever, chills, body aches and other typical symptoms. Never got hospitalized, but at my age now I would have to end up there.

So am I taking the vaccine? Yes. I will take my chances that I'm not somehow one of a tiny group that will have adverse reactions to the vaccine. It's time to start living again.[/quote]

Not a doctor but one of my neighbors is and 2 of my other neighbors are viral immunologists. I don't know if this will put your mind at ease at all, but the vaccine is very different from the flu vaccine. The flu vaccine is done with a dead version of the virus, the covid vaccine in an MRNA delivery system that mimics the proteins at the stems of the virus. Because of this, you may get the actual symptoms of the virus for 24 to 48 hours after getting the vaccine but your body will learn how to fight those effects and thus protect you from the virus. Also, because it is an MRNA vaccine it can be mass produced much faster and cheaper. That's what has been explained to me. I hope it helps.
 
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mjmaherjr" post=410091 said:
EliteBaller K" post=410089 said:
https://us.cnn.com/2020/12/20/health/walter-reed-covid-19-variant/index.html

I pray the more contagious one isn't vaccine resistant.

It's spreading to other European countries.
How the federal govt hasn't banned the 6 flights a day to JFK from London is mind boggling



 
Yeah...no its not.  It's par for the course.
 
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EliteBaller K" post=410089 said:
https://us.cnn.com/2020/12/20/health/walter-reed-covid-19-variant/index.html

I pray the more contagious one isn't vaccine resistant.

It's spreading to other European countries.



 
Not sure why you care.  You just said yesterday that you weren't getting the vaccine.  
 
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Beast of the East" post=410219 said:
SJUFAN2" post=410216 said:
mjmaherjr" post=410091 said:
EliteBaller K" post=410089 said:
https://us.cnn.com/2020/12/20/health/walter-reed-covid-19-variant/index.html

I pray the more contagious one isn't vaccine resistant.

It's spreading to other European countries.
How the federal govt hasn't banned the 6 flights a day to JFK from London is mind boggling

Yeah...no its not.  It's par for the course.


 
Damned if you do....Damned if you don't
Sometimes.   But mostly damned if you don't.
 
SJUFAN2" post=410217 said:
EliteBaller K" post=410089 said:
https://us.cnn.com/2020/12/20/health/walter-reed-covid-19-variant/index.html

I pray the more contagious one isn't vaccine resistant.

It's spreading to other European countries.




 
Not sure why you care.  You just said yesterday that you weren't getting the vaccine.  

I know i said I wouldn't have a conversation with you because somewhere during the conversation I'll be considered holding the board hostage, so here's my one reply to you.

Yes,, that's right I said I'm not taking it and I'm still not.
now on why I care.1
There has over 300k dead, just because this thing doesn't affect me, I still don't like seeing others die, plus I'd like a normal life as it used to be.
 
 
Just so thankful we have two good vaccines. I'll be happy to wait my turn. If I'm lucky, I will get it in time to get to NYC for my twice recheduled 50th HS reunion in May.
Meanwhile, I'll enjoy (in a manner of speaking) watching my Johnnies & Knicks... 
 
When that needle pierces my arm, I'm going to think of a lot of people who died from COVID including our own Lee Green.
 
This took a few days, but I think it's a reasonable policy for uk travelers to u.s.

 
 
 US to require negative COVID-19 test from UK travelers 
 
 https://nypost.com/2020/12/25/us-to-require-negative-covid-19-test-from-uk-travelers/ 
 
 
 
 
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 I thought you'd be interested in this story 
 
 Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine causing more allergic reactions than expected 
 
 https://nypost.com/2020/12/24/frequency-of-allergic-reactions-to-pfizer-vaccine-greater-than-expected/ 
 
 
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