UCONN back to Big East?
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[quote="MCNPA" post=352871][quote="fuchsia" post=352866]Hartford friend reports much talk of dropping football.[/quote]
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They’d be smart to. It’s losing tens of millions per year.[/quote]
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The Courant reported yesterday that the Yukon athletic Department lost $41M last year.
It also stated that the fee that will be owed to the AAC will be $10M.
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They’d be smart to. It’s losing tens of millions per year.[/quote]
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The Courant reported yesterday that the Yukon athletic Department lost $41M last year.
It also stated that the fee that will be owed to the AAC will be $10M.
[quote="otis" post=352872][quote="MCNPA" post=352871][quote="fuchsia" post=352866]Hartford friend reports much talk of dropping football.[/quote]
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They’d be smart to. It’s losing tens of millions per year.[/quote]
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The Courant reported yesterday that the Yukon athletic Department lost $41M last year.
It also stated that the fee that will be owed to the AAC will be $10M.[/quote]
Yup.. everybody things football makes huge money. No it doesn’t for most programs, only the extremely successful ones. The others it loses a ton. I can’t see UConn sustaining football at all. They’ll drop it eventually and become sustainable, even if they don’t drop it right away. This is at minimum, the first step in distancing themselves from the “big-time” football scene. The writing is on the wall. There is no re-shuffle coming where they will get scooped up by a power conference. That ship has sailed.
UConn basketball is a great product and one that is good for the Big East for sure. Their football program is dead though and the worry that somehow they have the power to drop our league on a whim is simply imagination at this point.
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They’d be smart to. It’s losing tens of millions per year.[/quote]
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The Courant reported yesterday that the Yukon athletic Department lost $41M last year.
It also stated that the fee that will be owed to the AAC will be $10M.[/quote]
Yup.. everybody things football makes huge money. No it doesn’t for most programs, only the extremely successful ones. The others it loses a ton. I can’t see UConn sustaining football at all. They’ll drop it eventually and become sustainable, even if they don’t drop it right away. This is at minimum, the first step in distancing themselves from the “big-time” football scene. The writing is on the wall. There is no re-shuffle coming where they will get scooped up by a power conference. That ship has sailed.
UConn basketball is a great product and one that is good for the Big East for sure. Their football program is dead though and the worry that somehow they have the power to drop our league on a whim is simply imagination at this point.
stuck in conn
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They just want more out of state drivers to drive through CT once the tolls come. Pretty soon there will be a “Big East tax” for the exit fee.
In all seriousness when has a team left a conference and the conference was better for it? It’s never a good look to lose a member.
In all seriousness when has a team left a conference and the conference was better for it? It’s never a good look to lose a member.
[quote="MainMan" post=352865][quote="Adam" post=352864]Our 10 team Big East proved we can have the #1 attended conference tournament at MSG, win 2 national titles, send 7 teams to the Dance, set up conference rivalries with the B1G/Big XII, etc... all in a very short time period WITHOUT UConn. If UConn bolts (doubtful since their football will tank even further), then we go back to present day where we're already elite.
We will earn more money with UConn's addition, through a new TV deal, our annual MSG game, and even stuff like more Tournament credits. Also, they will bring a lot more respect to the conference.
Anybody who dislikes this can't complain about how Nova is the only team to advance to the Final Four in the new Big East. We just added a team that won the National Championship during year 1 of the new Big East. Can't do any better than that.[/quote]
C’mon dude. We’ve been a one team league.
Take Nova away and we’re a step above mid-major.
First decade of original BE there was success across the board: St. John’s, Gtown, Nova, Syracuse, Providence and Seton Hall all made the FF.
Haven’t come anywhere
close to that parity.[/quote]
? Don't think you understood my post. I have always wanted UConn back.
We will earn more money with UConn's addition, through a new TV deal, our annual MSG game, and even stuff like more Tournament credits. Also, they will bring a lot more respect to the conference.
Anybody who dislikes this can't complain about how Nova is the only team to advance to the Final Four in the new Big East. We just added a team that won the National Championship during year 1 of the new Big East. Can't do any better than that.[/quote]
C’mon dude. We’ve been a one team league.
Take Nova away and we’re a step above mid-major.
First decade of original BE there was success across the board: St. John’s, Gtown, Nova, Syracuse, Providence and Seton Hall all made the FF.
Haven’t come anywhere
close to that parity.[/quote]
? Don't think you understood my post. I have always wanted UConn back.
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[quote="Adam" post=352877][quote="MainMan" post=352865][quote="Adam" post=352864]Our 10 team Big East proved we can have the #1 attended conference tournament at MSG, win 2 national titles, send 7 teams to the Dance, set up conference rivalries with the B1G/Big XII, etc... all in a very short time period WITHOUT UConn. If UConn bolts (doubtful since their football will tank even further), then we go back to present day where we're already elite.
We will earn more money with UConn's addition, through a new TV deal, our annual MSG game, and even stuff like more Tournament credits. Also, they will bring a lot more respect to the conference.
Anybody who dislikes this can't complain about how Nova is the only team to advance to the Final Four in the new Big East. We just added a team that won the National Championship during year 1 of the new Big East. Can't do any better than that.[/quote]
C’mon dude. We’ve been a one team league.
Take Nova away and we’re a step above mid-major.
First decade of original BE there was success across the board: St. John’s, Gtown, Nova, Syracuse, Providence and Seton Hall all made the FF.
Haven’t come anywhere
close to that parity.[/quote]
? Don't think you understood my post. I have always wanted UConn back.[/quote]
You're right.
I only read your first paragraph.
We will earn more money with UConn's addition, through a new TV deal, our annual MSG game, and even stuff like more Tournament credits. Also, they will bring a lot more respect to the conference.
Anybody who dislikes this can't complain about how Nova is the only team to advance to the Final Four in the new Big East. We just added a team that won the National Championship during year 1 of the new Big East. Can't do any better than that.[/quote]
C’mon dude. We’ve been a one team league.
Take Nova away and we’re a step above mid-major.
First decade of original BE there was success across the board: St. John’s, Gtown, Nova, Syracuse, Providence and Seton Hall all made the FF.
Haven’t come anywhere
close to that parity.[/quote]
? Don't think you understood my post. I have always wanted UConn back.[/quote]
You're right.
I only read your first paragraph.
[quote="Paul Massell" post=352792]The Big East does not have an attendance problem. Yukon does. The "no brainer" upside is conjecture and not based upon recent Yukon history. That Danny Hurley will do anything at Yukon despite all the grass is always greener praise he gets here, is also not guaranteed but he'd definitely have a better shot at it in the BE.
The only actual upside to Yukon in the BE is the women's program and that is probably Val's motivation (pioneer in modern women's basketball and former head of WNBA). That may or may not "lift all ships" but has it done so elsewhere? How compelling is it for the small schools to recruit on the premise of guaranteed losing to Yukon every year? Yukon does not fit the profile of the conference and screws members in particular St Johns, Villanova, Seton Hall. I agree without any humor that there should be a buy in and a buy out. If they screwed over Ollie with zero shame, they aren't going to do the same to Big East member schools? Get the money up front. You are dealing with dogs. Otherwise this is just an ego move for VA and completely unsettles what is actually working here.[/quote]
The BE made UCONN, not vice versa.
Also made Pitt.
The only actual upside to Yukon in the BE is the women's program and that is probably Val's motivation (pioneer in modern women's basketball and former head of WNBA). That may or may not "lift all ships" but has it done so elsewhere? How compelling is it for the small schools to recruit on the premise of guaranteed losing to Yukon every year? Yukon does not fit the profile of the conference and screws members in particular St Johns, Villanova, Seton Hall. I agree without any humor that there should be a buy in and a buy out. If they screwed over Ollie with zero shame, they aren't going to do the same to Big East member schools? Get the money up front. You are dealing with dogs. Otherwise this is just an ego move for VA and completely unsettles what is actually working here.[/quote]
The BE made UCONN, not vice versa.
Also made Pitt.
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beast of the east
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[quote="section10" post=352839]some main reasons mentioned why bringing in UCANT is great for BE.
1. garden attendance will skyrocket
2. the women's basketball programs for BE schools will improve
3. the buyout money is there & guaranteed.
4 UCANT has found God & will never bolt.
5. UCANT basketball will improve the quality of all BE mens basketball programs.
1. the 2018 BET average attendance - 18790 - beat the average attendance of all power 5 conference tourneys.
so this will get the BE another few hundred tickets sold.
2. I have never attended an SJU women's game nor can I name a player on their roster.
so for those hundreds of fans, lets get UCANT girls.
I can name a few others on other SJU sports teams.
3. if SJU's contract writing lawyers handle the byeout terms, then the BE will never see a penny when UCANT bolts.
4. based on their fans civility and past UCANT actions. storrs seems Godless.
5. would not many other schools admittance to the BE improve the BE? Gonzaga, St. louis, Dayton, etc..,[/quote]
If the men's team is UCANT, then what is....
1. garden attendance will skyrocket
2. the women's basketball programs for BE schools will improve
3. the buyout money is there & guaranteed.
4 UCANT has found God & will never bolt.
5. UCANT basketball will improve the quality of all BE mens basketball programs.
1. the 2018 BET average attendance - 18790 - beat the average attendance of all power 5 conference tourneys.
so this will get the BE another few hundred tickets sold.
2. I have never attended an SJU women's game nor can I name a player on their roster.
so for those hundreds of fans, lets get UCANT girls.
I can name a few others on other SJU sports teams.
3. if SJU's contract writing lawyers handle the byeout terms, then the BE will never see a penny when UCANT bolts.
4. based on their fans civility and past UCANT actions. storrs seems Godless.
5. would not many other schools admittance to the BE improve the BE? Gonzaga, St. louis, Dayton, etc..,[/quote]
If the men's team is UCANT, then what is....
beast of the east
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SJU vs. UCONN at the garden becomes a UCONN home game . I know that's our own fault with a fan base that only comes out in force once we appear to have good teams but still.
[quote="Beast of the East" post=352893]SJU vs. UCONN at the garden becomes a UCONN home game . I know that's our own fault with a fan base that only comes out in force once we appear to have good teams but still.[/quote]
This simply isn’t true. It was true in the 90’s but the fans died out a ton after that. They always have fans come but nothing like the 90’s.
This simply isn’t true. It was true in the 90’s but the fans died out a ton after that. They always have fans come but nothing like the 90’s.
ESPN new article....
What UConn's expected move to the Big East could mean for its biggest programs
www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/27038961/what-uconn-expected-move-big-east-mean-biggest-programs%3fplatform=amp
What UConn's expected move to the Big East could mean for its biggest programs
www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/27038961/what-uconn-expected-move-big-east-mean-biggest-programs%3fplatform=amp
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[quote="RedStormNC" post=352907]ESPN new article....
What UConn's expected move to the Big East could mean for its biggest programs
www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/27038961/what-uconn-expected-move-big-east-mean-biggest-programs%3fplatform=amp[/quote]
"Now Danny Hurley can go into a prospect's living room and tell them he will be playing up to 15 games within driving distance, plus the Big East tournament. That's far more attractive to recruits from New York and New Jersey, where the Huskies used to recruit heavily -- and where Hurley has his roots."
What UConn's expected move to the Big East could mean for its biggest programs
www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/27038961/what-uconn-expected-move-big-east-mean-biggest-programs%3fplatform=amp[/quote]
"Now Danny Hurley can go into a prospect's living room and tell them he will be playing up to 15 games within driving distance, plus the Big East tournament. That's far more attractive to recruits from New York and New Jersey, where the Huskies used to recruit heavily -- and where Hurley has his roots."
Coaster1955
Member
This why we need to play them at Carnesecca.
[quote="Beast of the East" post=352893]SJU vs. UCONN at the garden becomes a UCONN home game . I know that's our own fault with a fan base that only comes out in force once we appear to have good teams but still.[/quote]
[quote="Beast of the East" post=352893]SJU vs. UCONN at the garden becomes a UCONN home game . I know that's our own fault with a fan base that only comes out in force once we appear to have good teams but still.[/quote]
Spocky Ramone
Well-known member
[quote="Coaster" post=352911]This why we need to play them at Carnesecca.
[quote="Beast of the East" post=352893]SJU vs. UCONN at the garden becomes a UCONN home game . I know that's our own fault with a fan base that only comes out in force once we appear to have good teams but still.[/quote][/quote]
They fill fill up the arena, which means more $ for St John’s University, which is why we need to play them at MSG. Duke, UNC, UK, KU, at the end of the day, are not about winning basketball. That is one of the means to the end... to make money. It’s a business model. The bottom line is always the bottom line.
[quote="Beast of the East" post=352893]SJU vs. UCONN at the garden becomes a UCONN home game . I know that's our own fault with a fan base that only comes out in force once we appear to have good teams but still.[/quote][/quote]
They fill fill up the arena, which means more $ for St John’s University, which is why we need to play them at MSG. Duke, UNC, UK, KU, at the end of the day, are not about winning basketball. That is one of the means to the end... to make money. It’s a business model. The bottom line is always the bottom line.
[quote="MCNPA" post=352895][quote="Beast of the East" post=352893]SJU vs. UCONN at the garden becomes a UCONN home game . I know that's our own fault with a fan base that only comes out in force once we appear to have good teams but still.[/quote]
This simply isn’t true. It was true in the 90’s but the fans died out a ton after that. They always have fans come but nothing like the 90’s.[/quote]
They also never drew great on weeknights, because their fan base is the state of CT. It's a minimum 40 minute train ride from Grand Central, plus however longer after that, that the people need to get home. It's a long evening, so the fans choose to stay home. This is different from Syracuse, which has a strong NYC alumni base, and will draw whenever the game is played.
This simply isn’t true. It was true in the 90’s but the fans died out a ton after that. They always have fans come but nothing like the 90’s.[/quote]
They also never drew great on weeknights, because their fan base is the state of CT. It's a minimum 40 minute train ride from Grand Central, plus however longer after that, that the people need to get home. It's a long evening, so the fans choose to stay home. This is different from Syracuse, which has a strong NYC alumni base, and will draw whenever the game is played.
beast of the east
Active member
[quote="Coaster" post=352911]This why we need to play them at Carnesecca.
[quote="Beast of the East" post=352893]SJU vs. UCONN at the garden becomes a UCONN home game . I know that's our own fault with a fan base that only comes out in force once we appear to have good teams but still.[/quote][/quote]
Not to mention it will only create 20 messages per week nm on why we should have hired Hurley
[quote="Beast of the East" post=352893]SJU vs. UCONN at the garden becomes a UCONN home game . I know that's our own fault with a fan base that only comes out in force once we appear to have good teams but still.[/quote][/quote]
Not to mention it will only create 20 messages per week nm on why we should have hired Hurley
I went to the UConn game during their last year in the Big East. It was a weekday I believe and MSG wasn't overrun by UConn fans. We also beat them.
This fear of playing popular semi-local teams at MSG is ridiculous. Most of Mullin's best games were wins over Syracuse/Duke/Seton Hall/Villanova/Georgetown at MSG (ALL with big fan bases in NYC). That stadium is the best thing we have, besides our Big East affiliation of course. Bring on UConn!
This fear of playing popular semi-local teams at MSG is ridiculous. Most of Mullin's best games were wins over Syracuse/Duke/Seton Hall/Villanova/Georgetown at MSG (ALL with big fan bases in NYC). That stadium is the best thing we have, besides our Big East affiliation of course. Bring on UConn!