Transfers

Providence is in the mix with 7-foot transfer Andre Washington (Wake Forest). Eligible immediately for 1 season.

Per Kevin McNamara
 
Id rather have Christion Jones than Clark.
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Here's the obvious retort RS - why?
B)
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Moose s contact at MSU says mid major calibre. Injury prone, I'm not convinced he would help that much. Whereas CJ : A big body, improving, knows our system. If we are going to replace him, want a player that will help us more than he would, and I don't think Clark will. But, I am no expert on Clark.
 
Per Jeff Borzello;

Sacred Heart transfer Cane Broome is down to four schools: Cincinnati, Creighton, NC State, Seton Hall.

NEC Player of the Year. 23.1 PPG.

This kid can play.
 
Id rather have Christion Jones than Clark.
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Here's the obvious retort RS - why?
B)
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Moose s contact at MSU says mid major calibre. Injury prone, I'm not convinced he would help that much. Whereas CJ : A big body, improving, knows our system. If we are going to replace him, want a player that will help us more than he would, and I don't think Clark will. But, I am no expert on Clark.
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Wait... we have a system?? :)
 
Going after two transfers that won't be eligible until 2017-18, when we already have limited scholarships, concerns me. Leads me to believe staff isn't confident about 2017 class
 
Going after two transfers that won't be eligible until 2017-18, when we already have limited scholarships, concerns me. Leads me to believe staff isn't confident about 2017 class
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Perhaps this decision is one of the reasons for the internal rift......?
 
http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2016/03/michigan_state_forward_marvin.html
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Michigan State Spartans Basketball: The Marvin Clark Apologist's Ode to Marvin Clark
By Joe Tuohey  @Jobin2E on Mar 28, 2016, 9:15p 61


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I'm going to make a wild, probably indefensible statement: Marvin Clark is the best Michigan State basketball player to ever transfer away from MSU because of playing time.

Here's a list of notable recent MSU transfers, and their reasons:

Player Reason
Doug Davis Playing Time
Brandon Cotton Playing Time
Maurice Joseph Playing Time
Tom Herzog Playing Time
Chris Allen Dismissed
Garrick Sherman Playing Time
Korie Lucious Dismissed
Dwaun Anderson Family Issues
Brandan Kearney Playing Time
Russell Byrd Playing Time/Injury
Kenny Kaminski Dismissed
Marvin Clark Playing Time
Javon Bess Playing Time
An interesting list. I'm going to run through each player who transferred for playing time reasons:

Doug Davis (MSU career here), Total Win Shares: 5.6, Win Shares/Season: 1.4

Ended up being a decent MAC-level player at Miami of Ohio.

Brandon Cotton, Total Win Shares: 7.1, Win Shares/Season: 1.8

Had the highest ceiling of any transfer. Ended up averaging 18 points per game at Detroit Mercy but did little else.

Maurice Joseph, Total Win Shares: 7.0, Win Shares/Season: 1.8

Helped Vermont to the tournament in 2009-10, with maybe one of the best individual post-MSU seasons of anyone, with 4.1 win shares.

Tom Herzog, Total Win Shares: 2.5, Win Shares/Season: 0.4

Probably now best known as a Magic: The Gathering player.

Garrick Sherman, Total Win Shares: 4.8, Win Shares/Season: 1.2

Probably now best known for his epic Twitter rant.

Brandan Kearney, Total Win Shares: 2.3, Win Shares/Season: 0.5

Also ended up at Detroit Mercy by way of Arizona State; averaged 6 points - 2 rebounds - 2 assists as a Senior in the Horizon league.

Russell Byrd, Total Win Shares: 0.7, Win Shares/Season: 0.2

Ended up at a non-D1 school. We'll always have Iowa.

Javon Bess, Total Win Shares: 1.6, Win Shares/Season: 0.8

I believe Bess could be a terrific player in a lower-tier conference. Bess simply doesn't have the size to be a power forward in the Big Ten, but in the MAC or the Horizon he absolutely has that type of size and could certainly be a homeless man's version of Draymond Green with his passing ability.

Marvin Clark, Total Win Shares: 2.8, Win Shares/Season: 1.4

The crude metrics I've been citing are for players' entire careers, not just their MSU careers. At MSU, Brandon Cotton had exactly 0 win shares. MoJo had 1.0 win shares, or 0.5 per season. Doug Davis has 1.3 win shares, or 0.6 per season.

I also need to acknowledge that win shares probably overstate how good Marvin Clark was on defense. Defensive win shares are mostly based upon team defensive statistics, as individual defensive stats are spotty.

Still, Marvin Clark was basically a poor man's Raymar Morgan: he could hit outside jumpers (including threes) and was better off guarding opponent power forwards than chasing guards on the perimeter. Clark turned the ball over too much (about 20% of possessions) but made up for that with an effective field goal percentage north of 60%. This made Clark generally efficient despite surprisingly high usage. In an era when stretch-4's are especially valuable in college basketball, Marvin Clark was a luxury.

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Over the final few weeks of the regular season, it seemed like Marvin began to understand his role a bit better. He was passing up some outside shots, focusing on rebounding, and defending. I mentioned it on Twitter a number of times.

In the Big Ten Tournament, however, Marvin posted three straight games with higher than 20% usage, shooting just 5-for-12 from the field and fouling out against Purdue in the Big Ten Tournament Championship game.

In the NCAA tournament, Colby Wollenman got more minutes in crunch time than Marvin, with Kenny Goins having left the game due to injury. It turns out his final basket in an MSU uniform came with 13:51 left in the first half against Middle Tennessee State.

I suspect he'll be just fine wherever he ends up.

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Id rather have Christion Jones than Clark.
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Here's the obvious retort RS - why?
B)
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Moose s contact at MSU says mid major calibre. Injury prone, I'm not convinced he would help that much. Whereas CJ : A big body, improving, knows our system. If we are going to replace him, want a player that will help us more than he would, and I don't think Clark will. But, I am no expert on Clark.
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Why go after a mid major player? We got 2 ships now, if Christian transfers trhen that's 3.
Why waste a ship on that? I'd rather just hold those for 17.
 
Id rather have Christion Jones than Clark.
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Here's the obvious retort RS - why?
B)
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Moose s contact at MSU says mid major calibre. Injury prone, I'm not convinced he would help that much. Whereas CJ : A big body, improving, knows our system. If we are going to replace him, want a player that will help us more than he would, and I don't think Clark will. But, I am no expert on Clark.
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Why go after a mid major player? We got 2 ships now, if Christian transfers trhen that's 3.
Why waste a ship on that? I'd rather just hold those for 17.
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Anybody who played at MSU is not a mid major player. Silly to think that
 
Id rather have Christion Jones than Clark.
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Here's the obvious retort RS - why?
B)
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Moose s contact at MSU says mid major calibre. Injury prone, I'm not convinced he would help that much. Whereas CJ : A big body, improving, knows our system. If we are going to replace him, want a player that will help us more than he would, and I don't think Clark will. But, I am no expert on Clark.
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Why go after a mid major player? We got 2 ships now, if Christian transfers trhen that's 3.
Why waste a ship on that? I'd rather just hold those for 17.
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Anybody who played at MSU is not a mid major player. Silly to think that
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Plenty of players go to schools and turn out to be better at a level below. My guy said he's athletic and strong but was overmatched at State and would be better at a mid major.
 
Player who Panther noted would attract SJU interest possibly

Grad Transfer Alert: Anthony Livingston, averaged 15.5, 9.4 boards last season, will transfer, source told ESPN. High majors will be on him.

Per Goodman
 
Right on cue from Zach B

Look for St John's to be active with Arkansas State grad transfer Anthony Livingston per source. #sjubb
 
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