The one SJU game to watch if you were quarantined

[quote="dee" post=382950][quote="ron " post=382205][quote="NCJohnnie" post=382204]For me it would definitely be the finals of the 1964 Holiday Festival where we beat #1 ranked Michigan with Cazzie & Bill Buntin with our team inlcuding Sonny Dove & the McIntyre brothers. That was the first college game I have a clear memory of attending and the garden was electric. I'd love to see it again because it's been so long and would love the opportunity to see those long ago Johnnie greats one more time.
A close 2nd would be the overtime game we lost to Duke in the Garden in Fran's last year(believe Artest was a frosh). I did get to see that one again last year and it was great as I remembered it.[/quote]

Agree, I was at that game also. It was my freshman year and cemented my life long rooting for SJU.[/quote]

Is there a video of that game that is availanle?[/quote]
MSG showed that game a few years ago maybe they will again.
 
Not doable, but if possible, I would love to see a game featuring Redmen great Tony Jackson. I've heard and read so much about him, but unfortunately I never got to see him play -- something I'd love to see.
 
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Try SJU vs Ohio St. Ohio St. had Jerry Lucas, Havlicek, Siegfried, Mel Novell and I forget the 5th player.

SJU had Leroy Ellis, Kevin Loughery, Tony Jackson, Willie Hall and I think Ivan Kovac. Great game.
 
Bobby Knight was either the fifth starter or sixth man on that Ohio State team. That SJU - Ohio St game was a semi final of the Holiday Festival. The other game was St Bonaventure, with the Stith brothers vs Utah with Bill McGill.
The festival today is not quite the same.
 
[quote="Enright" post=383011]Bobby Knight was either the fifth starter or sixth man on that Ohio State team. That SJU - Ohio St game was a semi final of the Holiday Festival. The other game was St Bonaventure, with the Stith brothers vs Utah with Bill McGill.
The festival today is not quite the same.[/quote]



I was at the Championship game with my father, St Bonaventure against Ohio State. Tom Stith was my favorite player back then. Whitey Martin was the point guard for St Bonaventure. I believe that Fred Crawford sat out that season due to having TB.

I think this game was on New Year's Eve and we went to Times Square afterwards. Those were the days.
 
[quote="panther2" post=383014][quote="Enright" post=383011]Bobby Knight was either the fifth starter or sixth man on that Ohio State team. That SJU - Ohio St game was a semi final of the Holiday Festival. The other game was St Bonaventure, with the Stith brothers vs Utah with Bill McGill.
The festival today is not quite the same.[/quote]




I was at the Championship game with my father, St Bonaventure against Ohio State. Tom Stith was my favorite player back then. Whitey Martin was the point guard for St Bonaventure. I believe that Fred Crawford sat out that season due to having TB.

I think this game was on New Year's Eve and we went to Times Square afterwards. Those were the days.[/quote]
Don't remember Fred Crawford having TB, but clearly remember Tom Stith having it. It was diagnosed during his post-draft physical by the Knicks. Had to sit out for a year (including time spent in a sanitarium) before suiting up with the Knicks the following year.
 
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[quote="redken" post=383017][quote="panther2" post=383014][quote="Enright" post=383011]Bobby Knight was either the fifth starter or sixth man on that Ohio State team. That SJU - Ohio St game was a semi final of the Holiday Festival. The other game was St Bonaventure, with the Stith brothers vs Utah with Bill McGill.
The festival today is not quite the same.[/quote]




I was at the Championship game with my father, St Bonaventure against Ohio State. Tom Stith was my favorite player back then. Whitey Martin was the point guard for St Bonaventure. I believe that Fred Crawford sat out that season due to having TB.

I think this game was on New Year's Eve and we went to Times Square afterwards. Those were the days.[/quote]
Don't remember Fred Crawford having TB, but clearly remember Tom Stith having it. It was diagnosed during his post-draft physical by the Knicks. Had to sit out for a year (including time spent in a sanitarium) before suiting up with the Knicks the following year.[/quote]



Just checked, Fred Crawford was diagnosed with TB in My of 1961.
 
[quote="panther2" post=383018][quote="redken" post=383017][quote="panther2" post=383014][quote="Enright" post=383011]Bobby Knight was either the fifth starter or sixth man on that Ohio State team. That SJU - Ohio St game was a semi final of the Holiday Festival. The other game was St Bonaventure, with the Stith brothers vs Utah with Bill McGill.
The festival today is not quite the same.[/quote]




I was at the Championship game with my father, St Bonaventure against Ohio State. Tom Stith was my favorite player back then. Whitey Martin was the point guard for St Bonaventure. I believe that Fred Crawford sat out that season due to having TB.

I think this game was on New Year's Eve and we went to Times Square afterwards. Those were the days.[/quote]
Don't remember Fred Crawford having TB, but clearly remember Tom Stith having it. It was diagnosed during his post-draft physical by the Knicks. Had to sit out for a year (including time spent in a sanitarium) before suiting up with the Knicks the following year.[/quote]



Just checked, Fred Crawford was diagnosed with TB in My of 1961.[/quote]
Wow ... the same year Stith came down with it. What the heck was going on at St. Bonaventure? Wonder if others were diagnosed with it as well.
 
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[quote="Enright" post=383011]Bobby Knight was either the fifth starter or sixth man on that Ohio State team. That SJU - Ohio St game was a semi final of the Holiday Festival. The other game was St Bonaventure, with the Stith brothers vs Utah with Bill McGill.
The festival today is not quite the same.[/quote]
Billy "The Hill" McGill is generally credited as "inventing" the jump hook. It was a crazy motion, and when he was on (and he often was), it was impossible to stop. I remember being at a Knicks-Celtics game at tthe Garden, when he put up about 35+ points against Bill Russell. There was no way that Russell could block the shot. I had never seen a shot like that (or seen Russell's defense so ineffecitve). It was unorthodox, and at its most extreme, it looked like his body parts were going in different directions.

 
One further note re that Holiday Festival and SJU. A team played three games in those years in the festival and in 1960 the field was loaded with great players and teams. Ohio St was number one and SJU and the Bonnie's were not far behind. Jerry Lucas was one of the greatest high school players of all time with tremendous publicity surrounding his arrival at Ohio St. The local newspapers were filled with Holiday Festival articles for a week and tickets were impossible to get for the semi final.
Yet I attended a SJU practice that week which the team had to get in cars and travel a few miles to either Martin Van Buren High, Jamaica High or whatever local high school had free time for SJU in the afternoon. A short time later Alumni Hall was completed. It still feels mind boggling.
 
[quote="fuchsia" post=383026]Joe Roberts was fifth starter on Ohio St. Did Knicks win the game when McGill scored a ton?[/quote]
Pretty sure they did. If so, it certainly was an anomaly. It was a team that had been revamped that season, and I recall thinking maybe we finally had a winner in NY -- which we didn't.
 
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Tonight at 9pm-On FS-1
Duke at St. John’s from 2018
 
Hardy win over Pitt at the garden. Was there with my son and his girlfriend, a Pitt grad. We were down and she was giving it to me the whole game. Will never forget how quiet she got as the lead disappeared and the look on her face when Hardy walked the tightrope and scored with the reverse underhanded scoop with the kiss off the glass as the clock expired. Then absolute pandemonium in the garden. Oh my.
 
Don't know if already mentioned, but I would love to see a tape of the win over a highly-ranked Tennessee team at Alumni Hall. There was no local TV. Game scheduled because Volunteers loaded with NY PSAL talent - Bernard King, Ernie Grunfeld, Irv Chatman and Grunfeld's Forest Hills High buddy, Jerry Firestone (?). Beaver Smith was great that night and got a big charging call on Ernie. I don't think the game was even sold out.
 
I'd have loved to see the game where Rick Barry scored a ton of points at Alumni Hall, late 60''s early 70's (?)
 
[quote="SJU65" post=383497]I'd have loved to see the game where Rick Barry scored a ton of points at Alumni Hall, late 60''s early 70's (?)[/quote]

Was at that game. Looie knew Barry was going to light it up so his strategy was let him get his points but guard the heck out of the other 4 guys.

Think Barry had like 44.
 
[quote="Las Vegan" post=383496]Don't know if already mentioned, but I would love to see a tape of the win over a highly-ranked Tennessee team at Alumni Hall. There was no local TV. Game scheduled because Volunteers loaded with NY PSAL talent - Bernard King, Ernie Grunfeld, Irv Chatman and Grunfeld's Forest Hills High buddy, Jerry Firestone (?). Beaver Smith was great that night and got a big charging call on Ernie. I don't think the game was even sold out.[/quote]

Yeah, that was two quick ones on Ernie. My recollection was the place was packed and rocking.
 
[quote="Section9" post=383499][quote="SJU65" post=383497]I'd have loved to see the game where Rick Barry scored a ton of points at Alumni Hall, late 60''s early 70's (?)[/quote]

Was at that game. Looie knew Barry was going to light it up so his strategy was let him get his points but guard the heck out of the other 4 guys.

Think Barry had like 44.[/quote]

I was at that game also. I remember it as 39 points for Barry.
 
I think that was the game against Pistol Pete Maravich where Looie told the team not to guard Pete. I threw Pete off in the first half but Pete adjusted at half time and lit it up in the second half.
 
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