Texas and Oklahoma Reach Out to Join SEC
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Things continue to move in the direction I have expected them to for a number of years: The football schools will follow the money and conferences will realign and consolidate accordingly.
As Moose correctly points out, the Big 12 is done. The Big 10 and the PAC-12 will probably split up what's left of it. It frankly wouldn't shock me if the Big 10 poaches some of the PAC-12, leaving the rest of the PAC-12 to absorb the Big 12.
Since I don't care about college football, none of that concerns me. What concerns me is that the real message here is that the SEC is essentially going to ditch the NCAA and its rules. The remaining 3 power conferences will follow suit.
At that point the question is whether the Power 64 teams want to bother participating in the NCAA basketball tournament. If they don't then that does not bode well for the Big East.
As Fordham correctly pointed out wrt Kansas, basketball is almost totally irrelevant in the college sports money game, so hopefully the split will be football-only and the NCAA tournament will continue in its present form.
Of course what competitive disadvantage the non-Power 64 schools will be at is a different question, but smart programs always manage to find a way on that front.
As Moose correctly points out, the Big 12 is done. The Big 10 and the PAC-12 will probably split up what's left of it. It frankly wouldn't shock me if the Big 10 poaches some of the PAC-12, leaving the rest of the PAC-12 to absorb the Big 12.
Since I don't care about college football, none of that concerns me. What concerns me is that the real message here is that the SEC is essentially going to ditch the NCAA and its rules. The remaining 3 power conferences will follow suit.
At that point the question is whether the Power 64 teams want to bother participating in the NCAA basketball tournament. If they don't then that does not bode well for the Big East.
As Fordham correctly pointed out wrt Kansas, basketball is almost totally irrelevant in the college sports money game, so hopefully the split will be football-only and the NCAA tournament will continue in its present form.
Of course what competitive disadvantage the non-Power 64 schools will be at is a different question, but smart programs always manage to find a way on that front.
lawmanfan post=437154 said:
The NCAA has an 800 million dollar a year contract with CBS and Turner that runs until 2032. That’s ton of money to walk away from. Plus, the NCAA would probably sue the big power conferences if they tried to pull out of the deal. I also think if the big power conferences tried to pull out and have their own tournament,I don’t think it would be as popular or have the same draw. The lure of the NCAA tournament is the underdog factor and the fact that every person who graduated from a school that’s in the tournament or lives near one of those schools or has kids in one of those schools has a reason to watch and root. If it’s a tournament of just the Power conference schools it takes so much of that audience away and really limits the number of viewers they will get. People who aren’t even college basketball fans will watch if their school is playing or the local small school is making run etc. If the power conferences are smart they will do their own football thing and just leave the basketball side as is. I don’t think they will get anywhere near the money they are getting now if they cut out all the other schools. Although, they would be splitting up money only amongst their power conference schools so there’s less schools splitting the pie.
Jay Bilas tossing out ACC propose merger w/ SEC for a mini NFL / NBA
www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/sec-acc-expansion-jay-bilas-merger/amp/
www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/sec-acc-expansion-jay-bilas-merger/amp/
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Big 12’s “cease & desist” to ESPN claims network contacted other conferences "encouraging” them to take Big 12 schools so Big 12 dissolves, eliminating grant of rights, sources told @Stadium. If Big 12 implodes, ESPN not responsible for final 4 years of deal, worth $1.06 billion
https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/status/1420510030722486275?s=21
https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/status/1420510030722486275?s=21
Paultzman post=437323 said:
ESPN has been behind all of this realignment from the beginning when Big East was broken apart. The Big East should have sued ESPN back then as they pulled the same shit. Someone has to take them to task.
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L J S A post=437402 said:
Yes - as I posted earlier on this thread it would not surprise me at all if instead of taking on the Big 12, the Big 10 swipes 2-4 top-end teams from the PAC 12. Then the remainders of the Big 12 and Pac-12 merge.
From a business standpoint the remaining Big 12 teams offer very little to the Big 10. It doesn't expand their market, and doesn't add anything on the football front which is where the money is. So it makes more sense for the Big 10 to try to collect USC plus either 1 West Coast partner for them or 3 to make up half a division. That gets them a West Coast TV market, increases the value of their rights, and probably puts them back ahead of the SEC at the top of the TV dollar heap.
So it ends up with the Big 10 and SEC with the lion's share of the clout and the dollars. After that there's a big drop to the ACC.
After that there's another big drop to the Pac-12 and the AAC (which might take some of the remaining Big 12 teams also).
And then you have the non-football conferences.
The real question is that once the Big 10 and SEC finish consolidating at the top, what happens to the ACC. If it can get ND into the conference full time then it might be OK between ND and Clemson and maintain some relevance. But if it can't it is going to get interesting with what happens to the ACC, Pac 12, and AAC. I'd expect to see some further consolidation down the road into sort of a new version of Conference USA in an (futile) effort to keep pace with the big boys.
Truthfully I don't care about any of it other than as a spectator sport EXCEPT to the extent that it impacts the Big East and college basketball. Hopefully the mergers and split from the NCAA will only have a minor impact on the basketball side of things.