Texas and Oklahoma Reach Out to Join SEC

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PharmDJohnnie11

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https://bleacherreport.com/articles...ut-to-sec-with-interest-in-joining-conference


Interesting news. I imagine this will cause a ripple effect across all of college sports with the Big 12 probably trying to poach teams to replace Texas and Oklahoma, and the conferences they poach from poaching from other conferences as well. 

I wonder if UConn now regrets getting rid of their football team now that there seems that there is going to be a lot of movement and maybe they could have possibly ended up in a major conference for football.

That being said is there anyway that this could affect the Big East in anyway? 
 
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PharmDJohnnie11 post=436827 said:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10008313-texas-oklahoma-reportedly-reach-out-to-sec-with-interest-in-joining-conference


Interesting news. I imagine this will cause a ripple effect across all of college sports with the Big 12 probably trying to poach teams to replace Texas and Oklahoma, and the conferences they poach from poaching from other conferences as well. 

I wonder if UConn now regrets getting rid of their football team now that there seems that there is going to be a lot of movement and maybe they could have possibly ended up in a major conference for football.

That being said is there anyway that this could affect the Big East in anyway? 


UConn does have a D-1 football team
In fact, I have tickets to see them play Army at West Point this fall
When UConn joined the Big East, the football team switched to independent status

 
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MarkRedman post=436828 said:
PharmDJohnnie11 post=436827 said:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10008313-texas-oklahoma-reportedly-reach-out-to-sec-with-interest-in-joining-conference


Interesting news. I imagine this will cause a ripple effect across all of college sports with the Big 12 probably trying to poach teams to replace Texas and Oklahoma, and the conferences they poach from poaching from other conferences as well. 

I wonder if UConn now regrets getting rid of their football team now that there seems that there is going to be a lot of movement and maybe they could have possibly ended up in a major conference for football.

That being said is there anyway that this could affect the Big East in anyway? 


UConn does have a D-1 football team
In fact, I have tickets to see them play Army at West Point this fall
When UConn joined the Big East, the football team switched to independent status


 
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Weren't they in talks to get rid of the football program at one point?

But that's interesting if the Big 12 or conference that gets poached like the ACC comes calling could they leave the Big East contractually? 
 
PharmDJohnnie11 post=436829 said:
MarkRedman post=436828 said:
PharmDJohnnie11 post=436827 said:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10008313-texas-oklahoma-reportedly-reach-out-to-sec-with-interest-in-joining-conference


Interesting news. I imagine this will cause a ripple effect across all of college sports with the Big 12 probably trying to poach teams to replace Texas and Oklahoma, and the conferences they poach from poaching from other conferences as well. 

I wonder if UConn now regrets getting rid of their football team now that there seems that there is going to be a lot of movement and maybe they could have possibly ended up in a major conference for football.

That being said is there anyway that this could affect the Big East in anyway? 


UConn does have a D-1 football team
In fact, I have tickets to see them play Army at West Point this fall
When UConn joined the Big East, the football team switched to independent status




 
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Weren't they in talks to get rid of the football program at one point?

But that's interesting if the Big 12 or conference that gets poached like the ACC comes calling could they leave the Big East contractually? 


There was some talk about dropping football at UConn because the program is in shambles. Their football team is one of the worst among major college programs. UConn invested a great deal of money into the program several years ago so perhaps that's the reason why they didn't elect to fold. But they are on life support so to speak.

It's very difficult for a D-1 football team to be successful as an independent. BYU has done well as an independent in recent years. Even Notre Dame, an independent "forever", has a working agreement with the ACC and has played 5 games against conference members the past few years. But Notre Dame won't join the ACC fully because they probably make more money on their current TV contract with NBC than they would get as a full fledged ACC member.

 
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L J S A post=436831 said:
I personally would try to gauge interest in a Pac 14 if I were them.


When a lot of conference movement took place a few years ago, many pundits predicted that, eventually, big time college football would consist of 5 conferences with 16 teams each.

We could be heading in that direction in the next few years.
 
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UConn has zero shot to go anywhere with football. They’re not even near the top of the list to replace any of those schools.  They’re out of the conversation and always have been.  Those delusions of grandeur are gone.
 
The Big Ten is hands down the most desirable conference as evidenced by the fact that Maryland jumped at the invitation to join the Big Ten.  The 2020 per school payouts of the "Power 5 Conferences" are as follows:
  • Big Ten: $54.3 million
  • SEC: $45.5 million
  • Big 12: $37 to $40.5 million
  • Pac-12: $33.6 million
  • ACC: $30.9 to $37 million



 
 
UConn really had an opportunity to join one of those power conferences within the last decade when all of the shuffling was happening, but it seems like they lost in a game of musical chairs. 
 
I think it's safe to assume Ohio St. and Alabama will eat two of the playoff spots for the foreseeable future. There will be some years that Notre Dame makes it. Having to get through Georgia and LSU for those remaining spots is going to be tough. OU definitely is better off going somewhere where they can go 13-0. Don't think Texas has a shot at overcoming those other schools anytime soon.
 
If you want to see how big football is relative to basketball just look at the potential situation of Kansas if the B12 implodes.

There may not be a bigger basketball program in the country then Kansas.  They are the bluest of blue bloods.  Everything about them, history/tradition/coaching is tremendous.

But because their football program is basically a non-factor every year no one really cares where they land in all of this.  It is all about Oklahoma and Texas.  They run the conference because their football programs (despite Texas recent troubles) are elite.  When Texas thought about leaving the B12 years ago for the then Pac-10 and they were going to bring Oklahoma with them that is when the got their own TV Network as an inducement to stay.
 
 
Cincinnati, Memphis , Houston and SMU possible replacements for the Big 12. They should just take all four and have it over with. 
 
That won't do it as far as football is concerned.  None of those schools have the cache and pull that Texas and Oklahoma do.  B12 is finished as a major conference if this happens.

Big East should recruit Kansas.  Have the football program become an independent.

Mean Gene post=436894
Cincinnati, Memphis , Houston and SMU possible replacements for the Big 12. They should just take all four and have it over with. 
 
fordham96 post=436896 said:
That won't do it as far as football is concerned.  None of those schools have the cache and pull that Texas and Oklahoma do.  B12 is finished as a major conference if this happens.

Big East should recruit Kansas.  Have the football program become an independent.

Mean Gene post=436894
Cincinnati, Memphis , Houston and SMU possible replacements for the Big 12. They should just take all four and have it over with. 

Agree.  Reach out to Kansas. Would be a great fit for our conference as they’re not gonna have a lot of good choices available.  For basketball certainly will.  I still doubt they’d do it but worth a shot.
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I guess a Big 12 without Texas and OU is completely neutered, but I wonder if they try to somehow lure Miami, Louisville, FSU, and Virginia Tech.
 
MCNPA post=436898 said:
fordham96 post=436896 said:
That won't do it as far as football is concerned.  None of those schools have the cache and pull that Texas and Oklahoma do.  B12 is finished as a major conference if this happens.

Big East should recruit Kansas.  Have the football program become an independent.

Mean Gene post=436894
Cincinnati, Memphis , Houston and SMU possible replacements for the Big 12. They should just take all four and have it over with. 

Agree.  Reach out to Kansas. Would be a great fit for our conference as they’re not gonna have a lot of good choices available.  For basketball certainly will.  I still doubt they’d do it but worth a shot.
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If we are all in agreement that KU would be a great fit, then we should probably hope ACC immediately reaches out to West Virginia to get to 16 teams, leaving Big 12 with seven teams and utterly dead in the water.
 
Kansas would never join the Big East. They will join the B1G. Makes total sense for them once OU, and UT officially bolt.
 
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