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[quote="MCNPA" post=288576][quote="JohnnyFan" post=288574][quote="MCNPA" post=288566]Two things remain true here.

1) We are willingly running a team without an Associate Head Coach and have no coaches on the roster who have been coaches at the D1 college level except Matt. Matt is solely a recruiter for us and a good one. We are actually running 2 coaches short with Richmond as I’m not sure what his deal is.

2) we were again last place in year 3.

I don’t know if it’s Mullin’s idea, or whose it is, but whomever decided we don’t need that extra staff member or two is an idiot. If we were at the top of the league, once could make the argument we don’t need it. That extra spot could be used for either and ace recruiter and/or an experienced coach, or both. If we didn’t need it, we wouldn’t have been in last place, bottom line. It’s idiotic and there are no programs running less 1-2 valuable coaching spots filled because well... it’s a terrible idea and deserves criticism.

The thread should not be about “if” we are going to have staff changes, rather about “when” we will hire the vacant spot of Associate Head Coach. After that’s done, we can address the ineffective and/or nonexistent coaches on staff if that is he case like many feel it is.[/quote]

Although they seem like conflicting opinions, I will agree with both NC Johnnie and MCNPA. From a roster standpoint, things are indeed looking up. That said, I would like to see us seize the moment. The program often seems snake bit. So, ignoring obvious needs makes me me think.......THIS is why we never get over the hump.

Let's hope Mullin can check his ego and ensure we are doing absolutely everything possible to move the program forward.[/quote]

There should be no hoping here. Hire an Associate HC. Shouldn’t even be an option for us, just a given. Hire a damn Associate HC. Period. This shouldn’t be an option. A DOBO is an option. An Associate HC isn’t. I’d rather cut Ritchie and Matic and whomever and grab somebody with experience coaching at the college level and who is at least a decent recruiter. Use their salaries towards that. There’s really no excuse at this point not to do so[/quote]

If I had to guess, our athletic giving doesn't come close to programs that may act as you suggest. We only have to look in the mirror collectively to see why the school doesn't toss more money around. Keep in mind that revenue producing sports have to help support an entire deoartment.
 
Well said , Beast . It’s futile to continue a reasonable dialogue with the Anti Crowd but, I notice that quite a few Posters did give you a thumbs up for your prior posts on this topic . Thank God , we got a little respite from the alarming chants for the candidacy of Mike Rice . The Regurgitators of that mantra don’t give up . But, let them continue the bitching and moaning for as long as they like . People who throw Fbombs around are ignorant and especially here on this site , there are rules against that . I had a great time at the US Open on Thursday before all the hoopla started . I followed Keegan Bradley for a while , but , it wasn’t a good Day for him . Nor, many others . I thought theCourse fair and challenging on Thursday like Shinnecock should be .What happened after that speaks for itself .
 
[quote="Beast of the East" post=288577][quote="MCNPA" post=288576][quote="JohnnyFan" post=288574][quote="MCNPA" post=288566]Two things remain true here.

1) We are willingly running a team without an Associate Head Coach and have no coaches on the roster who have been coaches at the D1 college level except Matt. Matt is solely a recruiter for us and a good one. We are actually running 2 coaches short with Richmond as I’m not sure what his deal is.

2) we were again last place in year 3.

I don’t know if it’s Mullin’s idea, or whose it is, but whomever decided we don’t need that extra staff member or two is an idiot. If we were at the top of the league, once could make the argument we don’t need it. That extra spot could be used for either and ace recruiter and/or an experienced coach, or both. If we didn’t need it, we wouldn’t have been in last place, bottom line. It’s idiotic and there are no programs running less 1-2 valuable coaching spots filled because well... it’s a terrible idea and deserves criticism.

The thread should not be about “if” we are going to have staff changes, rather about “when” we will hire the vacant spot of Associate Head Coach. After that’s done, we can address the ineffective and/or nonexistent coaches on staff if that is he case like many feel it is.[/quote]

Although they seem like conflicting opinions, I will agree with both NC Johnnie and MCNPA. From a roster standpoint, things are indeed looking up. That said, I would like to see us seize the moment. The program often seems snake bit. So, ignoring obvious needs makes me me think.......THIS is why we never get over the hump.

Let's hope Mullin can check his ego and ensure we are doing absolutely everything possible to move the program forward.[/quote]

There should be no hoping here. Hire an Associate HC. Shouldn’t even be an option for us, just a given. Hire a damn Associate HC. Period. This shouldn’t be an option. A DOBO is an option. An Associate HC isn’t. I’d rather cut Ritchie and Matic and whomever and grab somebody with experience coaching at the college level and who is at least a decent recruiter. Use their salaries towards that. There’s really no excuse at this point not to do so[/quote]

If I had to guess, our athletic giving doesn't come close to programs that may act as you suggest. We only have to look in the mirror collectively to see why the school doesn't toss more money around. Keep in mind that revenue producing sports have to help support an entire deoartment.[/quote]

This hire isn’t about our giving. It’s about our mismanagement. For you to put that on the fans “giving” is criminal... it’s on the administration and their ridiculous and overpriced hires of losers. This isn’t on the fans. The school’s mistakes are their own and the fans should not pay for their idiotic decisions. The school operates like a lemonade stand when it comes to basketball. This has nothing to do with giving. We’ve been losing for like 50 years overall and money had nothing to do with it. Total mismanagement. Time for the school to start making professional decisions instead of trying to get investors into a proposition that had been losing for half century or more...

To somehow say the fans are responsible for the silly and ridiculous contract that Slice got, and now the fans are on the hook for a bad deal is preposterous. Maybe somebody over at SJU should step up and take blame instead of putting it on the fans and donors??

The entire sentiment is infuriating.
 
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[quote="MCNPA" post=288588][quote="Beast of the East" post=288577][quote="MCNPA" post=288576][quote="JohnnyFan" post=288574][quote="MCNPA" post=288566]Two things remain true here.

1) We are willingly running a team without an Associate Head Coach and have no coaches on the roster who have been coaches at the D1 college level except Matt. Matt is solely a recruiter for us and a good one. We are actually running 2 coaches short with Richmond as I’m not sure what his deal is.

2) we were again last place in year 3.

I don’t know if it’s Mullin’s idea, or whose it is, but whomever decided we don’t need that extra staff member or two is an idiot. If we were at the top of the league, once could make the argument we don’t need it. That extra spot could be used for either and ace recruiter and/or an experienced coach, or both. If we didn’t need it, we wouldn’t have been in last place, bottom line. It’s idiotic and there are no programs running less 1-2 valuable coaching spots filled because well... it’s a terrible idea and deserves criticism.

The thread should not be about “if” we are going to have staff changes, rather about “when” we will hire the vacant spot of Associate Head Coach. After that’s done, we can address the ineffective and/or nonexistent coaches on staff if that is he case like many feel it is.[/quote]

Although they seem like conflicting opinions, I will agree with both NC Johnnie and MCNPA. From a roster standpoint, things are indeed looking up. That said, I would like to see us seize the moment. The program often seems snake bit. So, ignoring obvious needs makes me me think.......THIS is why we never get over the hump.

Let's hope Mullin can check his ego and ensure we are doing absolutely everything possible to move the program forward.[/quote]

There should be no hoping here. Hire an Associate HC. Shouldn’t even be an option for us, just a given. Hire a damn Associate HC. Period. This shouldn’t be an option. A DOBO is an option. An Associate HC isn’t. I’d rather cut Ritchie and Matic and whomever and grab somebody with experience coaching at the college level and who is at least a decent recruiter. Use their salaries towards that. There’s really no excuse at this point not to do so[/quote]

If I had to guess, our athletic giving doesn't come close to programs that may act as you suggest. We only have to look in the mirror collectively to see why the school doesn't toss more money around. Keep in mind that revenue producing sports have to help support an entire deoartment.[/quote]

This hire isn’t about our giving. It’s about our mismanagement. For you to put that on the fans “giving” is criminal... it’s on the administration and their ridiculous and overpriced hires of losers. This isn’t on the fans. The school’s mistakes are their own and the fans should not pay for their idiotic decisions. The school operates like a lemonade stand when it comes to basketball. This has nothing to do with giving. We’ve been losing for like 50 years overall and money had nothing to do with it. Total mismanagement. Time for the school to start making professional decisions instead of trying to get investors into a proposition that had been losing for half century or more...[/quote]

But you are both correct. If we all gave more $ the school would have more money to pay. And if the men’s bball team was properly managed by the school we would not have hired a completely inexperienced coach at $2 million per annum and Slice with a guaranteed 6 year contract at a salary greater than the majority of head coaches in Dividion 1. Now we are stuck paying his salary , or the balance of the negotiated settlement , for the next 3 years, at a time when the schools revenues are declining. As we know, and many hear have sent their children elsewhere , there are many schools giving a greater return on investment. Unfortunately those are the facts. Like it or not there is no extra money to throw at coaches at SJU.
 
The issue with the staff is not about money. Even if it was the fans are not to blame. The issue is Chris Mullin

Bottom line though is people like GSJ and Mitch are not on staff because they are cheap and SJU can't afford regular college assistants. Nonsense.

This isn't about extra money. How much do you think SHU pays the 3 assistants? They are by far the lowest paid. Do you think it took a lot for them to convince two low level assistants like Tony Skinn and Woodward to leave there jobs.

Money is not the reason Richmond is an assistant rather than someone else.
 
[quote="MCNPA" post=288588][quote="Beast of the East" post=288577][quote="MCNPA" post=288576][quote="JohnnyFan" post=288574][quote="MCNPA" post=288566]Two things remain true here.

1) We are willingly running a team without an Associate Head Coach and have no coaches on the roster who have been coaches at the D1 college level except Matt. Matt is solely a recruiter for us and a good one. We are actually running 2 coaches short with Richmond as I’m not sure what his deal is.

2) we were again last place in year 3.

I don’t know if it’s Mullin’s idea, or whose it is, but whomever decided we don’t need that extra staff member or two is an idiot. If we were at the top of the league, once could make the argument we don’t need it. That extra spot could be used for either and ace recruiter and/or an experienced coach, or both. If we didn’t need it, we wouldn’t have been in last place, bottom line. It’s idiotic and there are no programs running less 1-2 valuable coaching spots filled because well... it’s a terrible idea and deserves criticism.

The thread should not be about “if” we are going to have staff changes, rather about “when” we will hire the vacant spot of Associate Head Coach. After that’s done, we can address the ineffective and/or nonexistent coaches on staff if that is he case like many feel it is.[/quote]

Although they seem like conflicting opinions, I will agree with both NC Johnnie and MCNPA. From a roster standpoint, things are indeed looking up. That said, I would like to see us seize the moment. The program often seems snake bit. So, ignoring obvious needs makes me me think.......THIS is why we never get over the hump.

Let's hope Mullin can check his ego and ensure we are doing absolutely everything possible to move the program forward.[/quote]

There should be no hoping here. Hire an Associate HC. Shouldn’t even be an option for us, just a given. Hire a damn Associate HC. Period. This shouldn’t be an option. A DOBO is an option. An Associate HC isn’t. I’d rather cut Ritchie and Matic and whomever and grab somebody with experience coaching at the college level and who is at least a decent recruiter. Use their salaries towards that. There’s really no excuse at this point not to do so[/quote]

If I had to guess, our athletic giving doesn't come close to programs that may act as you suggest. We only have to look in the mirror collectively to see why the school doesn't toss more money around. Keep in mind that revenue producing sports have to help support an entire deoartment.[/quote]

This hire isn’t about our giving. It’s about our mismanagement. For you to put that on the fans “giving” is criminal... it’s on the administration and their ridiculous and overpriced hires of losers. This isn’t on the fans. The school’s mistakes are their own and the fans should not pay for their idiotic decisions. The school operates like a lemonade stand when it comes to basketball. This has nothing to do with giving. We’ve been losing for like 50 years overall and money had nothing to do with it. Total mismanagement. Time for the school to start making professional decisions instead of trying to get investors into a proposition that had been losing for half century or more...

To somehow say the fans are responsible for the silly and ridiculous contract that Slice got, and now the fans are on the hook for a bad deal is preposterous. Maybe somebody over at SJU should step up and take blame instead of putting it on the fans and donors??

The entire sentiment is infuriating.[/quote]

Look, there is a huge difference in sports between entities with deep enough pockets to spend to correct their mistakes, and spend to fund capital projects. There is a narrative here that we should build a new arena, but people think a project like that would be self funded without a major giving campaign. I once asked the athletic dept hiw many red white donors gave 5000 or more per season, and was told the number was about 80. I think total athletic dept giving is about 2.5 million annually. Think about it, that just about covers the head coach and associate hc salary, not renovations expansion, non revenue producing sports, etc.

Was slice a horrible hire? Yes. Did anyonehere, the most knowledgeable fans, question it at the time? No. At a school where athletic giving is 10x what ours is. Alumni could demand and expect the school to correct that mistake with another hire.

People here lament that Calipari isnt here, or Hurley, or Billy donovan. Even Florida couldn't keep donovan while paying him way more than sju ever would. Let's say Duke wanted jay wright, and he was amenable. What would they pay? 5,6, 7 million? More? Who would ante Up? Alumni.

8 years ago, this board was giving the vitamin water guy alk the credit for footing the bill for Lavin. Not only wasn't true, but our fans always expect someone else to pay to make our program great.

The realities are all there. If you want to guarantee If such a concept is possible, a top notch program, fans must give at a rate to offset the inevitable bad hires, bad contracts, mistakes. It's just the way big time college athletics work, which make it hard for the private schools to compete. Yea, nova is doing it now, with a good hire who built a great tradition. When he goes, how do they sustain it? Could butler find anotherStevens or afford to buy one? No, so now they are merely competitive. DePaul has been flailing since ray meyer left.

What can fix say a Calhoun retiring? Money. Alumni money, and lots of it.

[URL][URL]https://www.chronicle.com/article/Colleges-Raised-12-Billion/235058[/URL][/URL]
 
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[quote="Beast of the East" post=288591][quote="MCNPA" post=288588][quote="Beast of the East" post=288577][quote="MCNPA" post=288576][quote="JohnnyFan" post=288574][quote="MCNPA" post=288566]Two things remain true here.

1) We are willingly running a team without an Associate Head Coach and have no coaches on the roster who have been coaches at the D1 college level except Matt. Matt is solely a recruiter for us and a good one. We are actually running 2 coaches short with Richmond as I’m not sure what his deal is.

2) we were again last place in year 3.

I don’t know if it’s Mullin’s idea, or whose it is, but whomever decided we don’t need that extra staff member or two is an idiot. If we were at the top of the league, once could make the argument we don’t need it. That extra spot could be used for either and ace recruiter and/or an experienced coach, or both. If we didn’t need it, we wouldn’t have been in last place, bottom line. It’s idiotic and there are no programs running less 1-2 valuable coaching spots filled because well... it’s a terrible idea and deserves criticism.

The thread should not be about “if” we are going to have staff changes, rather about “when” we will hire the vacant spot of Associate Head Coach. After that’s done, we can address the ineffective and/or nonexistent coaches on staff if that is he case like many feel it is.[/quote]

Although they seem like conflicting opinions, I will agree with both NC Johnnie and MCNPA. From a roster standpoint, things are indeed looking up. That said, I would like to see us seize the moment. The program often seems snake bit. So, ignoring obvious needs makes me me think.......THIS is why we never get over the hump.

Let's hope Mullin can check his ego and ensure we are doing absolutely everything possible to move the program forward.[/quote]

There should be no hoping here. Hire an Associate HC. Shouldn’t even be an option for us, just a given. Hire a damn Associate HC. Period. This shouldn’t be an option. A DOBO is an option. An Associate HC isn’t. I’d rather cut Ritchie and Matic and whomever and grab somebody with experience coaching at the college level and who is at least a decent recruiter. Use their salaries towards that. There’s really no excuse at this point not to do so[/quote]

If I had to guess, our athletic giving doesn't come close to programs that may act as you suggest. We only have to look in the mirror collectively to see why the school doesn't toss more money around. Keep in mind that revenue producing sports have to help support an entire deoartment.[/quote]

This hire isn’t about our giving. It’s about our mismanagement. For you to put that on the fans “giving” is criminal... it’s on the administration and their ridiculous and overpriced hires of losers. This isn’t on the fans. The school’s mistakes are their own and the fans should not pay for their idiotic decisions. The school operates like a lemonade stand when it comes to basketball. This has nothing to do with giving. We’ve been losing for like 50 years overall and money had nothing to do with it. Total mismanagement. Time for the school to start making professional decisions instead of trying to get investors into a proposition that had been losing for half century or more...

To somehow say the fans are responsible for the silly and ridiculous contract that Slice got, and now the fans are on the hook for a bad deal is preposterous. Maybe somebody over at SJU should step up and take blame instead of putting it on the fans and donors??

The entire sentiment is infuriating.[/quote]

Look, there is a huge difference in sports between entities with deep enough pockets to spend to correct their mistakes, and spend to fund capital projects. There is a narrative here that we should build a new arena, but people think a project like that would be self funded without a major giving campaign. I once asked the athletic dept hiw many red white donors gave 5000 or more per season, and was told the number was about 80. I think total athletic dept giving is about 2.5 million annually. Think about it, that just about covers the head coach and associate hc salary, not renovations expansion, non revenue producing sports, etc.

Was slice a horrible hire? Yes. Did anyonehere, the most knowledgeable fans, question it at the time? No. At a school where athletic giving is 10x what ours is. Alumni could demand and expect the school to correct that mistake with another hire.

People here lament that Calipari isnt here, or Hurley, or Billy donovan. Even Florida couldn't keep donovan while paying him way more than sju ever would. Let's say Duke wanted jay wright, and he was amenable. What would they pay? 5,6, 7 million? More? Who would ante Up? Alumni.

8 years ago, this board was giving the vitamin water guy alk the credit for footing the bill for Lavin. Not only wasn't true, but our fans always expect someone else to pay to make our program great.

The realities are all there. If you want to guarantee If such a concept is possible, a top notch program, fans must give at a rate to offset the inevitable bad hires, bad contracts, mistakes. It's just the way big time college athletics work, which make it hard for the private schools to compete. Yea, nova is doing it now, with a good hire who built a great tradition. When he goes, how do they sustain it? Could butler find anotherStevens or afford to buy one? No, so now they are merely competitive. DePaul has been flailing since ray meyer left.

What can fix say a Calhoun retiring? Money. Alumni money, and lots of it.[/quote]

The common denominator in all of this is bad decision making. Fix that and you fix the problem. We’ve been making terrible decisions for decades. Mullin asked too much money and insisted in these ridiculous contracts for guys like Slice etc. Getting held hostage all the time, willingly, isn’t cause to beg to be saved.

This isn’t about money. It’s about chronic mismanagement and bad hires. And if the school screws if up, with only one money sport, they have to be able to learn how to fix it and not delay decades at a time. Just find somebody who can make the right hires. The Goff thing another dud, hiring a total disaster...
 
[quote="Beast of the East" post=288591][quote="MCNPA" post=288588][quote="Beast of the East" post=288577][quote="MCNPA" post=288576][quote="JohnnyFan" post=288574][quote="MCNPA" post=288566]Two things remain true here.

1) We are willingly running a team without an Associate Head Coach and have no coaches on the roster who have been coaches at the D1 college level except Matt. Matt is solely a recruiter for us and a good one. We are actually running 2 coaches short with Richmond as I’m not sure what his deal is.

2) we were again last place in year 3.

I don’t know if it’s Mullin’s idea, or whose it is, but whomever decided we don’t need that extra staff member or two is an idiot. If we were at the top of the league, once could make the argument we don’t need it. That extra spot could be used for either and ace recruiter and/or an experienced coach, or both. If we didn’t need it, we wouldn’t have been in last place, bottom line. It’s idiotic and there are no programs running less 1-2 valuable coaching spots filled because well... it’s a terrible idea and deserves criticism.

The thread should not be about “if” we are going to have staff changes, rather about “when” we will hire the vacant spot of Associate Head Coach. After that’s done, we can address the ineffective and/or nonexistent coaches on staff if that is he case like many feel it is.[/quote]

Although they seem like conflicting opinions, I will agree with both NC Johnnie and MCNPA. From a roster standpoint, things are indeed looking up. That said, I would like to see us seize the moment. The program often seems snake bit. So, ignoring obvious needs makes me me think.......THIS is why we never get over the hump.

Let's hope Mullin can check his ego and ensure we are doing absolutely everything possible to move the program forward.[/quote]

There should be no hoping here. Hire an Associate HC. Shouldn’t even be an option for us, just a given. Hire a damn Associate HC. Period. This shouldn’t be an option. A DOBO is an option. An Associate HC isn’t. I’d rather cut Ritchie and Matic and whomever and grab somebody with experience coaching at the college level and who is at least a decent recruiter. Use their salaries towards that. There’s really no excuse at this point not to do so[/quote]

If I had to guess, our athletic giving doesn't come close to programs that may act as you suggest. We only have to look in the mirror collectively to see why the school doesn't toss more money around. Keep in mind that revenue producing sports have to help support an entire deoartment.[/quote]

This hire isn’t about our giving. It’s about our mismanagement. For you to put that on the fans “giving” is criminal... it’s on the administration and their ridiculous and overpriced hires of losers. This isn’t on the fans. The school’s mistakes are their own and the fans should not pay for their idiotic decisions. The school operates like a lemonade stand when it comes to basketball. This has nothing to do with giving. We’ve been losing for like 50 years overall and money had nothing to do with it. Total mismanagement. Time for the school to start making professional decisions instead of trying to get investors into a proposition that had been losing for half century or more...

To somehow say the fans are responsible for the silly and ridiculous contract that Slice got, and now the fans are on the hook for a bad deal is preposterous. Maybe somebody over at SJU should step up and take blame instead of putting it on the fans and donors??

The entire sentiment is infuriating.[/quote]

Look, there is a huge difference in sports between entities with deep enough pockets to spend to correct their mistakes, and spend to fund capital projects. There is a narrative here that we should build a new arena, but people think a project like that would be self funded without a major giving campaign. I once asked the athletic dept hiw many red white donors gave 5000 or more per season, and was told the number was about 80. I think total athletic dept giving is about 2.5 million annually. Think about it, that just about covers the head coach and associate hc salary, not renovations expansion, non revenue producing sports, etc.

Was slice a horrible hire? Yes. Did anyonehere, the most knowledgeable fans, question it at the time? No. At a school where athletic giving is 10x what ours is. Alumni could demand and expect the school to correct that mistake with another hire.

People here lament that Calipari isnt here, or Hurley, or Billy donovan. Even Florida couldn't keep donovan while paying him way more than sju ever would. Let's say Duke wanted jay wright, and he was amenable. What would they pay? 5,6, 7 million? More? Who would ante Up? Alumni.

8 years ago, this board was giving the vitamin water guy alk the credit for footing the bill for Lavin. Not only wasn't true, but our fans always expect someone else to pay to make our program great.

The realities are all there. If you want to guarantee If such a concept is possible, a top notch program, fans must give at a rate to offset the inevitable bad hires, bad contracts, mistakes. It's just the way big time college athletics work, which make it hard for the private schools to compete. Yea, nova is doing it now, with a good hire who built a great tradition. When he goes, how do they sustain it? Could butler find anotherStevens or afford to buy one? No, so now they are merely competitive. DePaul has been flailing since ray meyer left.

What can fix say a Calhoun retiring? Money. Alumni money, and lots of it.[/quote]

What does any of that have to do with hiring a 3rd assistant? Nothing. If SJU does not have enough for that they belong in the MAAC period. We are not talking about getting a $5 million head coach from another prominent school.

Lastly the idea that when SJU hired Slice no fan objected is evidence of what exactly? Chris Mullin hired him and Chris Mullin is solely responsible for not getting that to work period. That hiring and messy divorce has ZERO to do with fans or the fact that he was praised when he was hired.

Chris F'd that up. Some of you have either tried to create this false narrative that Mullin walked into a bad situation and just bad timing and bad luck and bad finances have put him in a bad situation for which he is doing a miraculous job. It is pathetic. Stop it it is not true.

Let's see how this plays out. I think he can make something work with this team and potential staff change. But some of you need to get your head out of the sand....
 
[quote="Beast of the East" post=288567][quote="Class of 72" post=288563][quote="SLYFOXX1968" post=288556]Outstanding Post , Logen .[/quote]

What was "outstanding" about it?????????

You three keep repeating the same crap about Mullin every other post. I've cut and saved them into my notepad.
We ALL know the company line.
The title of the thread is STAFFING CHANGE!
If you don't want to discuss staff or any changes stay off the thread![/quote]

I kind of prefer your new and inventive ways to serve the same crap up. Kind of like a chef extraordinaire for leftover crap.

I'll try to jazz up my same old crap in the future. Unless of course you weren't referring to me as one of the three. Then I will just say i love all of your posts :)[/quote]

So you know that I love to cook and stir the pot. ;)
Beast, yes we need a jazz up in our kitchen. The restaurant reviews have been terrible. With the best kitchen staff in years, especially with a new pâtissier named Mustapha Heron, the professional restaurant critics still don't have Chez SJU sniffing a national ranking because they have doubts that master chef Mullin can improve his menu and he obviously still needs help in the kitchen while his associate head chef is cashing 600K per year but is not allowed to step foot in the kitchen. To make matters worse the incompetent managing director and his puppet master decided to raise the menu prices while serving up the same menu. The gamble game they are playing is hoping one good year will mollify the patrons who have been stiffed out of a good meal for three years by including a 20% gratuity whether you like the service or not.
Now, Mrs. 72 and I dine out a few times a week and love a good meal but I rarely return to a restaurant that gives me agita and charges me gratuity even when the service sucks.
What does all of the above have to do with St. John's basketball? Absolutely nothing but I was easily distracted and I digressed when you complimented me and called me a chef extraordinaire for leftover crap.
Oh, and you were not one of the three, the 3rd was a bona-fide defender of the realm here but do not fret as you are in my top 10.;) :p
 
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I saw 25 new posts since yesterday and I thought we hired a new assistant coach. Oh well.
 
Really not trying to stir the pot here...I know you guys will kill me for this but just an honest thought. Of course I hope all works out and we are all happy after next year with Mullin, but if it doesn't, is Musselman an option from Nevada? If he gets paid $1 mil at a no name school you'd think he would come to a major program like ours and get paid a ton more if not double.
 
[quote="Andrew" post=288597]I saw 25 new posts since yesterday and I thought we hired a new assistant coach. Oh well.[/quote]

If a new assistant is hired, there will be 20 posts on 4 different threads, all saying the same thing.
 
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=288598]Really not trying to stir the pot here...I know you guys will kill me for this but just an honest thought. Of course I hope all works out and we are all happy after next year with Mullin, but if it doesn't, is Musselman an option from Nevada? If he gets paid $1 mil at a no name school you'd think he would come to a major program like ours and get paid a ton more if not double.[/quote]

Of course your post begs the question: Is SJU still “a major program?”

In any event, I think it’s far too premature to start looking ahead at a potential new coach. We have a nice team assembled next year and there is plenty of room for optimism.

I’m neither a Mullin supporter nor calling for his head. But I can see how folks get annoyed with your repetitive posts and propensity to hijack threads. I hope Mullin hires a an assistant with bonafides, but if he doesn’t let’s see how this season and recruiting play out. In short, enjoy the season and then let’s reevaluate.
 
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=288598]Really not trying to stir the pot here...I know you guys will kill me for this but just an honest thought. Of course I hope all works out and we are all happy after next year with Mullin, but if it doesn't, is Musselman an option from Nevada? If he gets paid $1 mil at a no name school you'd think he would come to a major program like ours and get paid a ton more if not double.[/quote]
Immediate gratification need is clearly in your DNA.
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=288602][quote="Mike Zaun" post=288598]Really not trying to stir the pot here...I know you guys will kill me for this but just an honest thought. Of course I hope all works out and we are all happy after next year with Mullin, but if it doesn't, is Musselman an option from Nevada? If he gets paid $1 mil at a no name school you'd think he would come to a major program like ours and get paid a ton more if not double.[/quote]
Immediate gratification need is clearly in your DNA.[/quote]

I wouldn't have gone to grad school for 3 years if I was that type being broke until I was 26 while my friends got good jobs with their BA's. I just think you don't have to wait until something completely crumbles (hopefully it doesn't) to have a backup plan. In this business you need to have plans B and C. If not, you lose out. All I'm saying...thus I don't see how the question can't at the very least be pondered by fans. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the major label goes by conference, not performance. Boston College is still major even though they're usually terrible. They'd still manhandle most mid major and low major D1 schools and have way more resources. I see us the same way...we have much more to offer than Nevada and we are clearly a much bigger time program with a FS1 deal playing nationally known brands unlike Nevada's conference (whatever it is). You can simultaneously hope for success but also discuss plan B's if plan A doesn't work out. It's actually the smart thing to do IMO. Imagine if the NFL draft worked with the philosophy of only focusing on 1 guy and then he gets taken by another team and you have no plan. Btw wouldn't consider this stuff "hijacking" a thread when it's completely on topic..."staff change".
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=288602][quote="Mike Zaun" post=288598]Really not trying to stir the pot here...I know you guys will kill me for this but just an honest thought. Of course I hope all works out and we are all happy after next year with Mullin, but if it doesn't, is Musselman an option from Nevada? If he gets paid $1 mil at a no name school you'd think he would come to a major program like ours and get paid a ton more if not double.[/quote]
Immediate gratification need is clearly in your DNA.[/quote]

Mike is a masterdebater and sometimes speaks prematurely. Today's yout! Gotta love em. Kid still is a big supporter. Just says and repeats the opposite of whatever Sly and Logen repeat.
Face it, we are a bunch of mockingbirds here but Mikey sings Mullin's Swan song a lot.;)
 
[quote="Class of 72" post=288613][quote="Paultzman" post=288602][quote="Mike Zaun" post=288598]Really not trying to stir the pot here...I know you guys will kill me for this but just an honest thought. Of course I hope all works out and we are all happy after next year with Mullin, but if it doesn't, is Musselman an option from Nevada? If he gets paid $1 mil at a no name school you'd think he would come to a major program like ours and get paid a ton more if not double.[/quote]
Immediate gratification need is clearly in your DNA.[/quote]

Mike is a masterdebater and sometimes speaks prematurely. Today's yout! Gotta love em. Kid still is a big supporter. Just says and repeats the opposite of whatever Sly and Logen repeat.
Face it, we are a bunch of mockingbirds here but Mikey sings Mullin's Swan song a lot.;)[/quote]

Nvm
 
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