St. John's Big 12 rumor/Pitino & Prime

Rocket said:
Few people here are comparing apples to apples.

The Power 5 football conferences will always earn tens of millions of dollars more than the basketball only schools BUT they will need that kind of revenue to pay for the prohibitive expenses to run an elite football program.

Kansas and Kentucky are two of the most storied basketball programs in America but they are not elite football teams. Yet, they have to populate their teams with mostly full scholarship players and expensive staffs. What if the NFL expanded to smaller markets to operate an NFL 2nd division where 19 year olds could play?
The viewers of college football would then be watching a bunch of high school aged kids and older players who are of lesser talent.

Universities have long exploited student athletes in the name of greed due to the unionized player controlled monopolies of professional sports. Nowhere in the world do multimillionaire athletes limit the job market like the NFL and NBA.

When that hold is finally broken by some court ruling, college sports may return to the amateur ranks of students competing for scholarships rather than millions in NIL and other borderline professional sports schemes.

The rest of the world got it right while here in America the wolves of Wall Street and the media control things from cradle to grave,
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Dont knock wall st :)
 
We should be aggressively pursuing Gonzaga. The logistics suck for Gonzaga no matter what conference they are in. At least in the Big East we can take care of them as the lone distant school and nobody has more pairs of schools so closely located than the Big East with SJU/SH, Nova/Gtown, Prov/Uconn, and DePaul/Marquette.

They can schedule SH and SJU as well as a big time NYC OOC neutral court game at MSG, Barclays, or UBS during Christmas week as one big 10 day trip. Maybe we can turn that into a double-header against a local team.

Perhaps once a year an eastern team can play a neutral court game in Seattle, Portland, or Las Vegas against Gonzaga on a rotating basis to help generate west coast attention.

What makes the most sense is adding another team with Gonzaga like Wichita State (non-football state school with average attendance of 9,000 fans) or Dayton (top 20 average attendance every year) or adding Gonzaga and keeping UConn and going to a western and eastern divisions.
 
ADORAZ said:
Bumping this as SI included St. John's in an article a couple weeks ago, and it appears Colorado (and others?) will be heading to the Big 12 tomorrow. I think it'd be pretty unlikely, and probably not a good idea for St. John's unless a few other Big East teams go with them. If the B12 wants their tournament at MSG then I think St. John's would be a must.


Plan A might be plundering two to four teams from the Pac-12. Plan B might be a Colorado-UConn power play—but if Colorado is a non-starter, that probably ends the scenario. Non-football aspirations could involve St. John’s, which has the big-dollar booster backing of Vitamin Water founder Mike Repole and just landed Rick Pitino as its coach. They could involve Gonzaga, the hoops power of the Pacific Northwest, which would get the Big 12 into all four time zones and at least partially fulfill pursuit of a coast-to-coast conference.
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It took a few extra days but Colorado is indeed on the move. Big 12 going to make moves for sure
 
Cannot stand 95% of the Yukon fan base! I think of a bunch clowns in Marlboro stained sweat shirts drinking red dog and passing gas on Metro North or Mohegan Sun. Good amount uneducated fans who only tune in come March. I brought up the Don Perno years once they thought it was an Italian restaurant in Glastonbury. If Taliban played them it might be a coin flip for me.
 
I also cannot stand the UConn fanbase, but that's the reason why I want them to stay. Nothing better than having a team that you love to hate come into MSG and get their butts wallopped by us. For me, it was always the Syracuse, G'town and UConn fans who were the most satisying to see suffer in person. We lost Cuse and got Uconn back, I'd hate to see them go again.
 
Redenbacher said:
I also cannot stand the UConn fanbase, but that's the reason why I want them to stay. Nothing better than having a team that you love to hate come into MSG and get their butts wallopped by us. For me, it was always the Syracuse, G'town and UConn fans who were the most satisying to see suffer in person. We lost Cuse and got Uconn back, I'd hate to see them go again.
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Yes exactly, it's healthy for the conference to have a villain. Even after Nova won TWO championships in three years I and most other Big East fans still didn't see them as one. Wright was respectable and their fan base wasn't too arrogant relative to the amount of success they had. Small catholic schools are likable within the college landscape as a whole, and that's what this conference is.

IMO the only other Big East school that can become a villain is Georgetown, and poaching Cooley furthers that, but they still wouldn't get near UConn level anytime soon. Ironically we'd probably be next in line after Georgetown once we start winning with Pitino, but that just shows how likable the Big East is. Don't get me wrong, I love that our conference has so many fun teams to root for, but we also need a villain.
 
Redenbacher said:
I also cannot stand the UConn fanbase, but that's the reason why I want them to stay. Nothing better than having a team that you love to hate come into MSG and get their butts wallopped by us. For me, it was always the Syracuse, G'town and UConn fans who were the most satisying to see suffer in person. We lost Cuse and got Uconn back, I'd hate to see them go again.
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Would be great to beat UConn by 20+, then Pitino bitch slap their AD then tell him for him and his basketball team to: "gtf out of OUR building."
 
classof2010 said:
Cannot stand 95% of the Yukon fan base! I think of a bunch clowns in Marlboro stained sweat shirts drinking red dog and passing gas on Metro North or Mohegan Sun. Good amount uneducated fans who only tune in come March. I brought up the Don Perno years once they thought it was an Italian restaurant in Glastonbury. If Taliban played them it might be a coin flip for me.
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Class your description of YuKoN fans is legendary, Fallon should put you on his writing staff.
 
Redenbacher said:
I also cannot stand the UConn fanbase, but that's the reason why I want them to stay. Nothing better than having a team that you love to hate come into MSG and get their butts wallopped by us. For me, it was always the Syracuse, G'town and UConn fans who were the most satisying to see suffer in person. We lost Cuse and got Uconn back, I'd hate to see them go again.
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I agree,Reden, it's always so much fun when fans are obnoxious and the final buzzer goes off and you can turn around and give them the "you're a dumb #*CK, LOOK! If it is a Butler or DePaul fan who has been nice the whole game, you give them the "there's always next time LOOK", the first LOOK is lots more fun. Stay in the BE and let us kick you around like the Perno and early Calhoun years.
 
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