South Carolina Game

agree, other than rebounds, just a great great game by the johnnies. Terrific energy and nice job in the game plan Lav. Real real joy to watch that game on my DVR.
 
I know it's one game but Chris seems to be given a pass for his lack of rebounding.. 3 in 25 minutes. Is it that he is not in position to receive such rebounds because he is always going for the blocked shot? What about some O boards?
 
JBC was THE WORST offense only, bad attitude player but a 7'+ player who could score was the ideal back then and the Warriors had basically invested in him as their Franchise player. As a Warriors fan at the time I hated seeing him on the floor.

If any of you remember Mullins first couple of seasons with the Warriors, with teammates like Joe Barry Carroll and Sleepy Floyd, Mullin would be open on the perimeter - a virtual layup for him - and they would totally ignore him. Of course, once they cleaned house, and he proved to his new teammates that he was a deadeye shooter, everything began to work out for him.

Actually, it wouldn't be a bad idea for Lavs to engage Mullin to work with Marco.
 
Really? What do you expect the fans to chant, "Good game SC! We wish you luck!"? Give the student section a break. I'd much rather them involved in the game chanting you suck than sitting submissively in silence.

Because as we all know, the only two options are chanting "you suck" or sitting submissively in silence.

If you think "you suck" is a terrible thing to say then you are very out of touch. Stop being so sensitive...it's a bunch of teenagers in the student sections and it's what many student sections do. You condemn the students for not coming out, then when they do they get bashed for getting into the game? What you do is set up a damned if they do, damned if they don't scenario. Some people on this forum want to take D'Lo's aggressive spirit and the fans' aggressive spirit away. Why? Stop trying to change people...we NEED aggression and a rabid fanbase. It's like neutering a dog...do you want the team and fans to have no balls? This is Queens. If someone was honestly offended by hearing "you suck" at a sporting event, I would question if it was your first time ever at such an event. Shocked this was even brought up in the first place. It's not like they chanted "suck my d__".
 
JBC was THE WORST offense only, bad attitude player but a 7'+ player who could score was the ideal back then and the Warriors had basically invested in him as their Franchise player. As a Warriors fan at the time I hated seeing him on the floor.

If any of you remember Mullins first couple of seasons with the Warriors, with teammates like Joe Barry Carroll and Sleepy Floyd, Mullin would be open on the perimeter - a virtual layup for him - and they would totally ignore him. Of course, once they cleaned house, and he proved to his new teammates that he was a deadeye shooter, everything began to work out for him. ...

It wasn't for nothing that Peter Vecsey dubbed him Joe Barry Apathy. (And to think that the Celtics, in essence, got Robert Parrish and Kevin McHale from the Warriors in exchange for him! Must have driven Warrior fans crazy.)
 
I know it's one game but Chris seems to be given a pass for his lack of rebounding.. 3 in 25 minutes. Is it that he is not in position to receive such rebounds because he is always going for the blocked shot? What about some O boards?

I mentioned Chris when everyone (Marillac) first started getting on Christian. But I do think its just that he gets caught outside the blocks a fair amount. And yes his block leads to breaks etc. That being said it was much improved for both him and others last night where they held their spots well. But still will need constant work.
 
JBC was THE WORST offense only, bad attitude player but a 7'+ player who could score was the ideal back then and the Warriors had basically invested in him as their Franchise player. As a Warriors fan at the time I hated seeing him on the floor.

If any of you remember Mullins first couple of seasons with the Warriors, with teammates like Joe Barry Carroll and Sleepy Floyd, Mullin would be open on the perimeter - a virtual layup for him - and they would totally ignore him. Of course, once they cleaned house, and he proved to his new teammates that he was a deadeye shooter, everything began to work out for him.

Actually, it wouldn't be a bad idea for Lavs to engage Mullin to work with Marco.

Just so newbies and youngsters understand what you mean about "THE WORST"....what made him the worst was that he WASN'T. When he FELT like it, he could be a GREAT player. He COULD play defense. He COULD be a great shot blocker. He COULD pass effectively. He just chose NOT too. There's a reference in this thread to Vescey's nickname for him "Joe Barry Apathy". Hall of Fame broadcaster Chick Hearn, who usually found a tactfull way to describe a players failings, simply called him Joe Barry Care-less.
 
I think the "You Suck" is a tab harsh but effective. I just have to applaud the student section though. They were loud and feel they distracted SC somewhat. Also love the originality...."He wears shorts shorts" was a good one......KEEP IT UP JOHNNIE FANS !!!!
 
Exactly. It would drive you crazy. And if you look at his stats you'd think this guy was a good to great NBA player. He rarely failed to put up points. Contrast him to Robert Parish. Parish (even old Parish) and Run TMC would have been a dominant championship team. Those guys were just short of that running with two undersized centers. One who had just recovered from brain surgery and the other I think was around 6'8.

Just so newbies and youngsters understand what you mean about "THE WORST"....what made him the worst was that he WASN'T. When he FELT like it, he could be a GREAT player. He COULD play defense. He COULD be a great shot blocker. He COULD pass effectively. He just chose NOT too. There's a reference in this thread to Vescey's nickname for him "Joe Barry Apathy". Hall of Fame broadcaster Chick Hearn, who usually found a tactfull way to describe a players failings, simply called him Joe Barry Care-less.
 
Really? What do you expect the fans to chant, "Good game SC! We wish you luck!"? Give the student section a break. I'd much rather them involved in the game chanting you suck than sitting submissively in silence.

Because as we all know, the only two options are chanting "you suck" or sitting submissively in silence.

If you think "you suck" is a terrible thing to say then you are very out of touch. Stop being so sensitive...it's a bunch of teenagers in the student sections and it's what many student sections do. You condemn the students for not coming out, then when they do they get bashed for getting into the game? What you do is set up a damned if they do, damned if they don't scenario. Some people on this forum want to take D'Lo's aggressive spirit and the fans' aggressive spirit away. Why? Stop trying to change people...we NEED aggression and a rabid fanbase. It's like neutering a dog...do you want the team and fans to have no balls? This is Queens. If someone was honestly offended by hearing "you suck" at a sporting event, I would question if it was your first time ever at such an event. Shocked this was even brought up in the first place. It's not like they chanted "suck my d__".

I'll assume since I was quoted you are talking to me. Where did I say I was offended?

You're the one who posted 10 times that there's no difference in schools and that rankings are biased. If that's the case, St. John's fans should try to be as creative as some of the better fans out there. Otherwise, you risk sounding kind of dopey. Just like chanting "U of Gay" or whatever they did last season. I think it makes fans sound like low-class boneheads. That's the best you can come up with?

And spare me the sensitive and out of touch crap. I've been going to sporting events since I was 5 and haven't lived in the suburbs in 20 years. There's nothing I will hear that will shock me.
 
"He wears shart shorts " is creative, even sportsmanlike 'taunting', and reflective of the educated students we have at St, Johns. You "suck" is crude, unimanagitive, and reflective of unsportsmanlike high schoolers. Those that shouted it would be tossed out of Cameron Arena, the Palestra, Pauley Pavillion by popular demand because winners play there and they have fans that are winners.( I will say they would be applauded at Columbia but that's a total other story).I do think our students need some leadership on their selection of creative derision. Aside from that, they were totally in the game, and that was great for a change. Good for them and us.
Super performance by the Johnnies; perhaps it's the best in some years from the viewpoint of athleticism and teamwork. Rebounding will kill us eventually unless something changes. However, I'm happy with what we saw and, with rebounding, would revise my pre-season estimate to 19 wins.
It was a disapointing crowd with 17% empty seats (1000 "fans"). There was some conversation three years back that we messed up by not building a new gym with 12000 seats to handle the enthusiam of our thousands of fans for the Redstorm. Had we, we would have been 57% empty with this crowd for a significant interconference match up. Hey guys, buy some seats!
 
Student Section A-
Rebounding B-
Team Chemistry A
Best Student chant "Who Wears short shorts? Mike wears short shorts" Very funny!
:)

My daughter commented on the shorts. When the Student section started their "short Shorts" chant, se said "See, I'm not the only one who thinks their way too short!"

I thought the student section was awesome but I would prefer if they did not chant you suck when SC missed a foul shot. Maybe I am a wimp....

Really? What do you expect the fans to chant, "Good game SC! We wish you luck!"? Give the student section a break. I'd much rather them involved in the game chanting you suck than sitting submissively in silence.

I said they were awesome, I did not say they should be silent. I just think that we can be more creative then "you suck."...

congrats... your hourly haymakers and rants are making this board unreadable
 
I appologize if this was already adressed. Did we hear how the South Carolina kid who got hurt is doing and what was the extent of his injuries?
Thanks
 
Guys make concrete judgments about players way too soon.

That might be the UNDERSTATEMENT of the century on this board. Two games into the season my boy CJ was on his way to rookie of the year... now the same people are posting he should be out of the rotation.

I've been consistent with Jones since his highlight videos and high school stats were posted. He needs to get a fire lit under his butt. There is no excuse to be that big and not own the glass. I am really hoping he starts to get it.

Could not agree more marillac. There is a reason though that Lav was talkin' this kid up at the start of the year. He saw something in this kid... unfortunately he is a FROSH and he needs to be alot more consistant.The talent is there now it's up to Lav and co. to bring it out of him.


The bench has worked wonders for the like of Pointer, Amir, and Felix so far. Lets hope it does the same for Christian
 
I appologize if this was already adressed. Did we hear how the South Carolina kid who got hurt is doing and what was the extent of his injuries?
Thanks

Per the South Carolina site's press release, the kid was released from the hospital after evaluation, and allowed to travel home with the team.
 
You "suck" is crude, unimanagitive, and reflective of unsportsmanlike high schoolers. Those that shouted it would be tossed out of Cameron Arena, the Palestra, Pauley Pavillion by popular demand because winners play there and they have fans that are winners.

You have got to be kidding me.
 
I appologize if this was already adressed. Did we hear how the South Carolina kid who got hurt is doing and what was the extent of his injuries?
Thanks

Per the South Carolina site's press release, the kid was released from the hospital after evaluation, and allowed to travel home with the team.

Great to hear!
 
I think he was.

You "suck" is crude, unimanagitive, and reflective of unsportsmanlike high schoolers. Those that shouted it would be tossed out of Cameron Arena, the Palestra, Pauley Pavillion by popular demand because winners play there and they have fans that are winners.

You have got to be kidding me.
 
Student Section A-
Rebounding B-
Team Chemistry A
Best Student chant "Who Wears short shorts? Mike wears short shorts" Very funny!
:)

My daughter commented on the shorts. When the Student section started their "short Shorts" chant, se said "See, I'm not the only one who thinks their way too short!"

I thought the student section was awesome but I would prefer if they did not chant you suck when SC missed a foul shot. Maybe I am a wimp....

Really? What do you expect the fans to chant, "Good game SC! We wish you luck!"? Give the student section a break. I'd much rather them involved in the game chanting you suck than sitting submissively in silence.

I said they were awesome, I did not say they should be silent. I just think that we can be more creative then "you suck."...

congrats... your hourly haymakers and rants are making this board unreadable

I suggest you just skip over his posts; it works for me.
 
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