South Carolina Game

You "suck" is crude, unimanagitive, and reflective of unsportsmanlike high schoolers. Those that shouted it would be tossed out of Cameron Arena, the Palestra, Pauley Pavillion by popular demand because winners play there and they have fans that are winners.
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You have got to be kidding me.
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Line me up with oldfan and I am not kidding.
 
You "suck" is crude, unimanagitive, and reflective of unsportsmanlike high schoolers. Those that shouted it would be tossed out of Cameron Arena, the Palestra, Pauley Pavillion by popular demand because winners play there and they have fans that are winners.
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You have got to be kidding me.
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Line me up with oldfan and I am not kidding.
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Same here. Although it's nice to hear people cheering anything for a change.
But with that said,get more creative.

If it was our rival and people were chanting "Porter sucks" for something he did, I'd be ok with that.
Not for every random player that misses a foul shot.
 
Lets not overreact. You suck shows a lack of intelligence, a lack of creativity, a lack of maturity and a lack of adequate preparation. You'd think college students could do better, but on most campuses you'd be wrong. Hey, it would make my 14 year old son laugh so if that's what they're going for so be it. It's not a hanging offense.
 
Cant compare him to mullin but he does remind me of Ron Rowan. Even looks like him



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Good comparison
 
the "you've got to be kidding" part is not about the lack of creativity of "you suck" but rather in painting the picture of so called winners who have these alleged model citizen fans that would toss out their comrades who were less creative and didn't chant in unison, clap politely behind their white gloves for their opponents nor have the correct haircut... I assumed it was hyperbole - the Palestra? Really?
 
You "suck" is crude, unimanagitive, and reflective of unsportsmanlike high schoolers. Those that shouted it would be tossed out of Cameron Arena, the Palestra, Pauley Pavillion by popular demand because winners play there and they have fans that are winners.
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You have got to be kidding me.
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Line me up with oldfan and I am not kidding.
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Same here. Although it's nice to hear people cheering anything for a change.
But with that said,get more creative.

If it was our rival and people were chanting "Porter sucks" for something he did, I'd be ok with that.
Not for every random player that misses a foul shot.
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I've gotten into this argument a million times on here but like it or not, college students and most people under 50 say "suck" as a normal word without thinking twice about it. The students aren't there for your personal comedy, they are there to cheer for their school and create a hostile environment for the opposing team. The fans in the arena yesterday stood up 4 times: for the anthem, the veteran, the t-shirt toss and to leave. Why don't the regular fans join in on chants or at least stand during the pre-game introductions before critiquing people who are actually making noise to support the team?
 
Just my 2 cents on the game. Unlike when we played Baylor and looked slower to the ball and on defense, against SC we were much quicker to the ball and on D.
I expect different players to show up big as we move along, and then as we start hitting "stride" we should see more consistency from all concerned.
Balamou certainly seems to spark the team and I like what I have seen from him defensively. Loved his pass to Dlo, in the second half, on the break.
Was a fun game for SJU fans to watch. I don't want to put to much into this one win, but we do seem to be improving. Next few games should help the players get more comfortable with each other and the the system.
 
Lets not overreact. You suck shows a lack of intelligence, a lack of creativity, a lack of maturity and a lack of adequate preparation. You'd think college students could do better, but on most campuses you'd be wrong. Hey, it would make my 14 year old son laugh so if that's what they're going for so be it. It's not a hanging offense.
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I had South Carolina fans behind me, they said" thought this was a nice Catholic school".
 
We have to develop plays to post up Borgault. You can tell that he has the stroke.
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Post up? You mean spot up? He basically hangs around the perimeter, and waits for his teammates to find him. Unless he can shoot like Mullin, and prove it to his teammates, he will get lost. He also has to work harder without the ball. He seems to shoot a little flat to be a dead eye shooter. I was a little disappointed that after nailing 2 straight 3 pointers, when it turned to total garbage time, he still launched a couple of shots (one from around 27 feet) that a cooler kid would have given up to let a deep bench player shoot.
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With all Marco has been thru he had the green light and I'm fine with that. Now if we can create looks for him.
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I am pretty sure he had the green light to shoot, but there are two things that come to mind, in comparing the brief minutes he has played to the best shooter in our history, HOFer Mullin. Of course, this is a ridiculous comparison, but the observations hold true.

Marco does not appear to be a great athlete (like Mullin). He does attack the boards to his credit, but he must do more than patrol the perimeter and stand around and watch the action. Mullin was in constant motion, and once he got to the pros (a bigger and faster game), became a superbly conditioned athlete, which he needed to be to be as quick as he possibly could be and be in constant motion to get open. (Mullin was constantly among the NBA leaders in steals, and off the top of my head I think he averaged about 1/2 a blocked shot per game). Marco, in his brief minutes, does not work hard enough to find his spots. His teammates, who are starting to penetrate and dish, aren't really looking for Marco at this point.

If any of you remember Mullins first couple of seasons with the Warriors, with teammates like Joe Barry Carroll and Sleepy Floyd, Mullin would be open on the perimeter - a virtual layup for him - and they would totally ignore him. Of course, once they cleaned house, and he proved to his new teammates that he was a deadeye shooter, everything began to work out for him.

Actually, it wouldn't be a bad idea for Lavs to engage Mullin to work with Marco.
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Not only Mullin, but even guys like jj reddick and Heslip were/are constantly sprinting to screens and in constant motion. Bourgault is not a bad athlete. He's a capable enough ball handler and passer. His stroke looks really good, but he's going to need to do more to earn his shots at this level. It means always moving to find an open shot. He also needs to speed up his release just a tad. His stroke otherwise looks great. I think he will be valuable once he gets up to speed. I'm glad he had the green light yesterday. Only way a shooter finds his rhythm is to get on the court and shoot.
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Bourgault reminds me of Novak; stands in corner waiting for a pass to throw up three pointer.
 
Really? What do you expect the fans to chant, "Good game SC! We wish you luck!"? Give the student section a break. I'd much rather them involved in the game chanting you suck than sitting submissively in silence.
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Because as we all know, the only two options are chanting "you suck" or sitting submissively in silence.
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If you think "you suck" is a terrible thing to say then you are very out of touch. Stop being so sensitive...it's a bunch of teenagers in the student sections and it's what many student sections do. You condemn the students for not coming out, then when they do they get bashed for getting into the game? What you do is set up a damned if they do, damned if they don't scenario. Some people on this forum want to take D'Lo's aggressive spirit and the fans' aggressive spirit away. Why? Stop trying to change people...we NEED aggression and a rabid fanbase. It's like neutering a dog...do you want the team and fans to have no balls? This is Queens. If someone was honestly offended by hearing "you suck" at a sporting event, I would question if it was your first time ever at such an event. Shocked this was even brought up in the first place. It's not like they chanted "suck my d__".
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I'll assume since I was quoted you are talking to me. Where did I say I was offended?

You're the one who posted 10 times that there's no difference in schools and that rankings are biased. If that's the case, St. John's fans should try to be as creative as some of the better fans out there. Otherwise, you risk sounding kind of dopey. Just like chanting "U of Gay" or whatever they did last season. I think it makes fans sound like low-class boneheads. That's the best you can come up with?

And spare me the sensitive and out of touch crap. I've been going to sporting events since I was 5 and haven't lived in the suburbs in 20 years. There's nothing I will hear that will shock me.
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So what do you want SJ students to do? Run some elaborate equations and come up with extremely insightful chants? This is basketball...there are popular chants across all fanbases and our fans used some. You are there to have fun and heckle the other team, not to be a philosopher. Basketball games are entertainment...fans want to have fun. It's a place where you don't think much for 2 hours...you just react. Ohh an alley oop! Oh man what a dunk! You suck! That's why you hear that stuff. I hope none of the SC players got their feelings hurt in the process.
 
Lets not overreact. You suck shows a lack of intelligence, a lack of creativity, a lack of maturity and a lack of adequate preparation. You'd think college students could do better, but on most campuses you'd be wrong. Hey, it would make my 14 year old son laugh so if that's what they're going for so be it. It's not a hanging offense.
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Oy. You make it seem like college basketball fans should hire professional writers specifically for chants lol. Lack of preparation? Who would think that? Lack of maturity? It's COLLEGE! Have you ever seen Animal House? Ever been to a keg party? What about a frat house? Ever lived in some crappy off campus house that you trashed every weekend? College is many things, but mature it is not. Half of them probably pre-gamed before the game anyway. For those of you who don't know the term "pre-game" it's when you drink before going out to get a buzz going already, or in this case before a basketball game to make it more fun. You suck is probably among the more docile things fans say these days.
 
I had South Carolina fans behind me, they said" thought this was a nice Catholic school".[/quote]

it's funny to hear that from fans of a school who walk around with hats and other gear that removes the "game" from the nickname of their team.....
 
Really? What do you expect the fans to chant, "Good game SC! We wish you luck!"? Give the student section a break. I'd much rather them involved in the game chanting you suck than sitting submissively in silence.
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Because as we all know, the only two options are chanting "you suck" or sitting submissively in silence.
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If you think "you suck" is a terrible thing to say then you are very out of touch. Stop being so sensitive...it's a bunch of teenagers in the student sections and it's what many student sections do. You condemn the students for not coming out, then when they do they get bashed for getting into the game? What you do is set up a damned if they do, damned if they don't scenario. Some people on this forum want to take D'Lo's aggressive spirit and the fans' aggressive spirit away. Why? Stop trying to change people...we NEED aggression and a rabid fanbase. It's like neutering a dog...do you want the team and fans to have no balls? This is Queens. If someone was honestly offended by hearing "you suck" at a sporting event, I would question if it was your first time ever at such an event. Shocked this was even brought up in the first place. It's not like they chanted "suck my d__".
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Joe, on behalf of most of the guys on this board past 35 --- You suck.



Just said it for effect.
 
JBC was THE WORST offense only, bad attitude player but a 7'+ player who could score was the ideal back then and the Warriors had basically invested in him as their Franchise player. As a Warriors fan at the time I hated seeing him on the floor.

If any of you remember Mullins first couple of seasons with the Warriors, with teammates like Joe Barry Carroll and Sleepy Floyd, Mullin would be open on the perimeter - a virtual layup for him - and they would totally ignore him. Of course, once they cleaned house, and he proved to his new teammates that he was a deadeye shooter, everything began to work out for him.

Actually, it wouldn't be a bad idea for Lavs to engage Mullin to work with Marco.
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Thank goodness for Mullin's sake that Nelson purged that squad.
 
Lets not overreact. You suck shows a lack of intelligence, a lack of creativity, a lack of maturity and a lack of adequate preparation. You'd think college students could do better, but on most campuses you'd be wrong. Hey, it would make my 14 year old son laugh so if that's what they're going for so be it. It's not a hanging offense.
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I had South Carolina fans behind me, they said" thought this was a nice Catholic school".
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I would have asked them what they thought of the Sout Carolina students in the RV who appeared in Borat.
 
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