Slice Sighting

Side note - Recently sat next to Slice on a long flight. Was a real nice guy in person and very interested that I was a SJU fan and a big college hoops fan in general. Obviously I did not bring up the current situation. He had a lot of good things to say about our players, particularly Lovett and Yawke. Also said he was responsible for scheduling the Binghamton game, as he has a relationship with Tommy Dempsey. Talked a bunch about the recruiting game, etc.
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1st class ? :)
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Can he afford it?
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he can afford charter flights with what St Johns owes him :)
 
Side note - Recently sat next to Slice on a long flight. Was a real nice guy in person and very interested that I was a SJU fan and a big college hoops fan in general. Obviously I did not bring up the current situation. He had a lot of good things to say about our players, particularly Lovett and Yawke. Also said he was responsible for scheduling the Binghamton game, as he has a relationship with Tommy Dempsey. Talked a bunch about the recruiting game, etc.
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Really!? You sat right next to him. A long flight from what city? If he was without his significant other it might give us a clue as to what "business" he was up to on our dime. The players he talked about are all on campus and he is on a magical mystery tour in the sky with you. I, for one, would have definitely brought up the current situation. You wasted an opportunity my friend.
 
Yeah, if it was a long flight I would have waited until the last 15 minutes but it definitely would have come up.
 
Side note - Recently sat next to Slice on a long flight. Was a real nice guy in person and very interested that I was a SJU fan and a big college hoops fan in general. Obviously I did not bring up the current situation. He had a lot of good things to say about our players, particularly Lovett and Yawke. Also said he was responsible for scheduling the Binghamton game, as he has a relationship with Tommy Dempsey. Talked a bunch about the recruiting game, etc.
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So the legacy Slice leaves behind at St. John's is a game with Binghamton. Worth every penny of the 3 million dollars or so that we will have paid him.
 
Side note - Recently sat next to Slice on a long flight. Was a real nice guy in person and very interested that I was a SJU fan and a big college hoops fan in general. Obviously I did not bring up the current situation. He had a lot of good things to say about our players, particularly Lovett and Yawke. Also said he was responsible for scheduling the Binghamton game, as he has a relationship with Tommy Dempsey. Talked a bunch about the recruiting game, etc.
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So the legacy Slice leaves behind at St. John's is a game with Binghamton. Worth every penny of the 3 million dollars or so that we will have paid him.
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I am happy about the game.
 
So the legacy Slice leaves behind at St. John's is a game with Binghamton. Worth every penny of the 3 million dollars or so that we will have paid him.
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Who knows for certain that St.John's will have to pay Mr. Slice $3M or anything close to that sum?

If liability was clear cut then the severance deal would already have been cut.

Don't be surprised if you learn that StJohn's has an affirmative defense which makes liability less defined.
 
So the legacy Slice leaves behind at St. John's is a game with Binghamton. Worth every penny of the 3 million dollars or so that we will have paid him.
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Who knows for certain that St.John's will have to pay Mr. Slice $3M or anything close to that sum?

If liability was clear cut then the severance deal would already have been cut.

Don't be surprised if you learn that StJohn's has an affirmative defense which makes liability less defined.
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I'm not a legal ace like you but to me it seems if if it was so cut and dry that Slice wouldn't get paid now. Wouldn't they have terminated him for just cause or something ?

I can pretty much guarantee based on what some others have said that he will get paid a lot north of the midway point of what he is owed
 
He was traveling to Vegas to meet some friends, presumably on his dime (though we certainly fattened his wallet last year). No recruiting events were out there at the time. Mentioned he might stop by the NBA summer league. Saw him later in the casino by himself, randomly, and chatted briefly with us.

I had to hold my tongue on multiple occasions, but didn't want to put the guy on the spot, and knew he likely wouldn't talk about the situation anyway. I hear you though. It was killing me not to ask.
 
Nope. The $50 "more leg room" aisle on Jet Blue.

Side note - Recently sat next to Slice on a long flight. Was a real nice guy in person and very interested that I was a SJU fan and a big college hoops fan in general. Obviously I did not bring up the current situation. He had a lot of good things to say about our players, particularly Lovett and Yawke. Also said he was responsible for scheduling the Binghamton game, as he has a relationship with Tommy Dempsey. Talked a bunch about the recruiting game, etc.
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1st class ? :)
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Nope. The $50 "more leg room" aisle on Jet Blue.

Side note - Recently sat next to Slice on a long flight. Was a real nice guy in person and very interested that I was a SJU fan and a big college hoops fan in general. Obviously I did not bring up the current situation. He had a lot of good things to say about our players, particularly Lovett and Yawke. Also said he was responsible for scheduling the Binghamton game, as he has a relationship with Tommy Dempsey. Talked a bunch about the recruiting game, etc.
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1st class ? :)
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money well spent especially if you are 6 ft 4 like me
 
best guess is Slice can't get a job this year because too late in the cycle so no need to shorten negotiations. Unless he did something detrimental to the team which I'm told he did not other than what some might quantify as work ethic which in his case in not really quantifiable my best guesstimate is he finally decides to settle for 75-80% of what is owed and won't take less than that since legally he won't need to and that roughly 150k extra yearly goes to Mitch plus he will get another 50-100k on top of that and I think the reason why no one is hired yet for the spot is because they are hoping to use slice savings to add to Mitch salary. If they give Slice lump sum then he would definitely take a small hair cut
 
So the legacy Slice leaves behind at St. John's is a game with Binghamton. Worth every penny of the 3 million dollars or so that we will have paid him.
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Who knows for certain that St.John's will have to pay Mr. Slice $3M or anything close to that sum?

If liability was clear cut then the severance deal would already have been cut.

Don't be surprised if you learn that StJohn's has an affirmative defense which makes liability less defined.
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I'm not a legal ace like you but to me it seems if if it was so cut and dry that Slice wouldn't get paid now. Wouldn't they have terminated him for just cause or something ?

I can pretty much guarantee based on what some others have said that he will get paid a lot north of the midway point of what he is owed
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I've been operating under the assumption that Slice is arguing "constructive dismissal", which would entitle him to a very nice payday. But who knows? If nothing else, this highlights the glaring need for a competent AD.
 
best guess is Slice can't get a job this year because too late in the cycle so no need to shorten negotiations. Unless he did something detrimental to the team which I'm told he did not other than what some might quantify as work ethic which in his case in not really quantifiable my best guesstimate is he finally decides to settle for 75-80% of what is owed and won't take less than that since legally he won't need to and that roughly 150k extra yearly goes to Mitch plus he will get another 50-100k on top of that and I think the reason why no one is hired yet for the spot is because they are hoping to use slice savings to add to Mitch salary. If they give Slice lump sum then he would definitely take a small hair cut
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I wouldn't be surprised if SJU wants to keep him unemployed for whatever amount they settle with him for. I believe that is their leverage. They likely can say, "If we pay you for 5 years, you can't work for 5 years", which would be unacceptable to Slice. That could mean it's at an impasse, and neither party would want to go to court, SJU not wanting to be on the hook for the entire amount, and Slice not wanting to risk being sidelined for 5 years. I say Advantage St. John's because they can spend $3 million (although they don't want to), but Slice wouldn't want to be out of action for 5 years.
 
best guess is Slice can't get a job this year because too late in the cycle so no need to shorten negotiations. Unless he did something detrimental to the team which I'm told he did not other than what some might quantify as work ethic which in his case in not really quantifiable my best guesstimate is he finally decides to settle for 75-80% of what is owed and won't take less than that since legally he won't need to and that roughly 150k extra yearly goes to Mitch plus he will get another 50-100k on top of that and I think the reason why no one is hired yet for the spot is because they are hoping to use slice savings to add to Mitch salary. If they give Slice lump sum then he would definitely take a small hair cut
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I wouldn't be surprised if SJU wants to keep him unemployed for whatever amount they settle with him for. I believe that is their leverage. They likely can say, "If we pay you for 5 years, you can't work for 5 years", which would be unacceptable to Slice. That could mean it's at an impasse, and neither party would want to go to court, SJU not wanting to be on the hook for the entire amount, and Slice not wanting to risk being sidelined for 5 years. I say Advantage St. John's because they can spend $3 million (although they don't want to), but Slice wouldn't want to be out of action for 5 years.
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Do you really think Slice is, or will be, out of action for 5 years? He has, and will continue to get plenty of action! And, I doubt he is complaining.

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At some point Slice needs to look himself in the mirror and decide whether he is okay with getting paid without putting in an honest day's work. Have some class. I don't expect him to walk away from the contract with nothing. However, settle for one year's salary and move forward with your career.

There is enough blame to go around on this one, but the longer it drags out, the more respect I lose for Slice. Nobody like a moocher.
 
At some point Slice needs to look himself in the mirror and decide whether he is okay with getting paid without putting in an honest day's work. Have some class. I don't expect him to walk away from the contract with nothing. However, settle for one year's salary and move forward with your career.

There is enough blame to go around on this one, but the longer it drags out, the more respect I lose for Slice. Nobody like a moocher.
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On the flip side, he came here in part because sju offered him a guaranteed deal. He probably didn't want to be a casualty if Mullin failed after 2 or 3 seasons. In our entire history over the past 50 years at least i cant remember an assistant being involved in any hostilities, no less this mess. At this point it's just a legal matter that shouldn't be a distraction for the team.
 
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