@SJUCoachLavin

Can you both just drop it. No more references to real fan please by either poster. Once again a thread has been hijacked for no apparent good reason. Can we please stick to the topic and take the discussion about real fan to pms.
Thank you.
 
It would be a lot easier to attribute these types of statements to "coach speak", if we weren't constantly being fed bs.
There are obviously times when a coach should put a positive spin on things... and this is probably one of those situations.

So I have no problem with him saying they're bringing in another stellar recruiting class. He's got to sell the program.

But it becomes white noise when everything else out of his mouth is bs.
 
Look here is the thing you guys need to understand with Lavin. yeah there is a lot of coach speak as with other coaches and yeah part of it is salesmanship but having met him a bunch of times and I know definitely some of the others here have met him a lot also you all have to admit that his personality is very outgoing and he is just a very positive person when you meet him.

Whether you like his coaching or not Coach is a real good guy when you meet him and even if you meet him for the 1st or 2nd time chances are he is going to remember something about you and when you talk to him he makes you feel like you have known each other for a long time.

Heck he beat cancer and as others know personality definitely helps with stuff like that. To thrown an example of a member here MCNPA is probably one of the most positive glass overflowing people here but thats his personality and trust me in his profession that is huge and that's why he is one of the nicest guys when you meet him. So it's not worth parsing Lavin's words. He can't change who is he and deep down he is a good guy.

We might get pissed at what happens on the floor sometimes but you can't change who you are and he is just a positive guy
 
Look here is the thing you guys need to understand with Lavin. yeah there is a lot of coach speak as with other coaches and yeah part of it is salesmanship but having met him a bunch of times and I know definitely some of the others here have met him a lot also you all have to admit that his personality is very outgoing and he is just a very positive person when you meet him.

Whether you like his coaching or not Coach is a real good guy when you meet him and even if you meet him for the 1st or 2nd time chances are he is going to remember something about you and when you talk to him he makes you feel like you have known each other for a long time.

Heck he beat cancer and as others know personality definitely helps with stuff like that. To thrown an example of a member here MCNPA is probably one of the most positive glass overflowing people here but thats his personality and trust me in his profession that is huge and that's why he is one of the nicest guys when you meet him. So it's not worth parsing Lavin's words. He can't change who is he and deep down he is a good guy.

We might get pissed at what happens on the floor sometimes but you can't change who you are and he is just a positive guy
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Good post mj, I think that sometimes does go unnoticed.

BTW speaking of MCN, noticed he hasnt been around much, is he alright? Same with moose.
 
Look here is the thing you guys need to understand with Lavin. yeah there is a lot of coach speak as with other coaches and yeah part of it is salesmanship but having met him a bunch of times and I know definitely some of the others here have met him a lot also you all have to admit that his personality is very outgoing and he is just a very positive person when you meet him.

Whether you like his coaching or not Coach is a real good guy when you meet him and even if you meet him for the 1st or 2nd time chances are he is going to remember something about you and when you talk to him he makes you feel like you have known each other for a long time.

Heck he beat cancer and as others know personality definitely helps with stuff like that. To thrown an example of a member here MCNPA is probably one of the most positive glass overflowing people here but thats his personality and trust me in his profession that is huge and that's why he is one of the nicest guys when you meet him. So it's not worth parsing Lavin's words. He can't change who is he and deep down he is a good guy.

We might get pissed at what happens on the floor sometimes but you can't change who you are and he is just a positive guy
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Good post mj, I think that sometimes does go unnoticed.

BTW speaking of MCN, noticed he hasnt been around much, is he alright? Same with moose.
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All is good with MCN. I'm friends with both outside the boards. MCN was on vacation and works crazy hours sometimes. moose I haven't talked to in a while but I think he is just taking a break from posting for a little while
 
Look here is the thing you guys need to understand with Lavin. yeah there is a lot of coach speak as with other coaches and yeah part of it is salesmanship but having met him a bunch of times and I know definitely some of the others here have met him a lot also you all have to admit that his personality is very outgoing and he is just a very positive person when you meet him.

Whether you like his coaching or not Coach is a real good guy when you meet him and even if you meet him for the 1st or 2nd time chances are he is going to remember something about you and when you talk to him he makes you feel like you have known each other for a long time.

Heck he beat cancer and as others know personality definitely helps with stuff like that. To thrown an example of a member here MCNPA is probably one of the most positive glass overflowing people here but thats his personality and trust me in his profession that is huge and that's why he is one of the nicest guys when you meet him. So it's not worth parsing Lavin's words. He can't change who is he and deep down he is a good guy.

We might get pissed at what happens on the floor sometimes but you can't change who you are and he is just a positive guy
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Good post mj, I think that sometimes does go unnoticed.

BTW speaking of MCN, noticed he hasnt been around much, is he alright? Same with moose.
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All is good with MCN. I'm friends with both outside the boards. MCN was on vacation and works crazy hours sometimes. moose I haven't talked to in a while but I think he is just taking a break from posting for a little while
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Good to hear!
 
That's some [strike]johnny[/strike]fan.
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I'm gonna help you out, '96. That's some realfan. ;)
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Dinkins.....are you like twelve years old?
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Apparently, you are though (amongst other things that I'll stay away from at this point in time). For anyone to say, "Same old redmen.com," and then claim they wasn't aware of the site before they "actually" became a member screams BS. You might've had a Freudian slip. I digress.

Well.... I have a good hunch there was a specific reason Lavin posted such tweet. Good post, maher.
 
Look here is the thing you guys need to understand with Lavin. yeah there is a lot of coach speak as with other coaches and yeah part of it is salesmanship but having met him a bunch of times and I know definitely some of the others here have met him a lot also you all have to admit that his personality is very outgoing and he is just a very positive person when you meet him.

Whether you like his coaching or not Coach is a real good guy when you meet him and even if you meet him for the 1st or 2nd time chances are he is going to remember something about you and when you talk to him he makes you feel like you have known each other for a long time.

Heck he beat cancer and as others know personality definitely helps with stuff like that. To thrown an example of a member here MCNPA is probably one of the most positive glass overflowing people here but thats his personality and trust me in his profession that is huge and that's why he is one of the nicest guys when you meet him. So it's not worth parsing Lavin's words. He can't change who is he and deep down he is a good guy.

We might get pissed at what happens on the floor sometimes but you can't change who you are and he is just a positive guy
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Good post mj, I think that sometimes does go unnoticed.

BTW speaking of MCN, noticed he hasnt been around much, is he alright? Same with moose.
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All is good with MCN. I'm friends with both outside the boards. MCN was on vacation and works crazy hours sometimes. moose I haven't talked to in a while but I think he is just taking a break from posting for a little while
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Good to hear!
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Also glad to hear. Hope everyone is well
 
Look here is the thing you guys need to understand with Lavin. yeah there is a lot of coach speak as with other coaches and yeah part of it is salesmanship but having met him a bunch of times and I know definitely some of the others here have met him a lot also you all have to admit that his personality is very outgoing and he is just a very positive person when you meet him.

Whether you like his coaching or not Coach is a real good guy when you meet him and even if you meet him for the 1st or 2nd time chances are he is going to remember something about you and when you talk to him he makes you feel like you have known each other for a long time.

Heck he beat cancer and as others know personality definitely helps with stuff like that. To thrown an example of a member here MCNPA is probably one of the most positive glass overflowing people here but thats his personality and trust me in his profession that is huge and that's why he is one of the nicest guys when you meet him. So it's not worth parsing Lavin's words. He can't change who is he and deep down he is a good guy.

We might get pissed at what happens on the floor sometimes but you can't change who you are and he is just a positive guy
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Great post! I understand everyone who meets Lavin goes away impressed. That includes players who ultimately go elsewhere. Since I never met him, I have a different perspective. I'd prefer positive results over positive-speak...especially positive-speak that's off the charts. Maybe he can tone it down. He isn't on TV anymore where it's all about bells and whistles.
 
Look here is the thing you guys need to understand with Lavin. yeah there is a lot of coach speak as with other coaches and yeah part of it is salesmanship but having met him a bunch of times and I know definitely some of the others here have met him a lot also you all have to admit that his personality is very outgoing and he is just a very positive person when you meet him.

Whether you like his coaching or not Coach is a real good guy when you meet him and even if you meet him for the 1st or 2nd time chances are he is going to remember something about you and when you talk to him he makes you feel like you have known each other for a long time.

Heck he beat cancer and as others know personality definitely helps with stuff like that. To thrown an example of a member here MCNPA is probably one of the most positive glass overflowing people here but thats his personality and trust me in his profession that is huge and that's why he is one of the nicest guys when you meet him. So it's not worth parsing Lavin's words. He can't change who is he and deep down he is a good guy.

We might get pissed at what happens on the floor sometimes but you can't change who you are and he is just a positive guy
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Great post! I understand everyone who meets Lavin goes away impressed. That includes players who ultimately go elsewhere. Since I never met him, I have a different perspective. I'd prefer positive results over positive-speak...especially positive-speak that's off the charts. Maybe he can tone it down. He isn't on TV anymore where it's all about bells and whistles.
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His is a salesman through and through. Good salesman are charming as hell. That's not to say that he's not sincere. Most good salesman are sincere since the truly believe what they are saying. I've also heard that he's a hell of a nice guy who will take the time to stop and talk to most anyone. A friend of mine-another prostate cancer survivor-casually ran in to him downtown and couldn't say enough wonderful things about him. Said it was obvious that Lavin was running somewhere yet as soon as my friend mentioned being a cancer survivor Lavin stood and spoke with him for quite some time. At the end of the day, I could care less what he says and how he says it, as long as he delivers results. Its only when the results aren't there that the sales speak rings hollow. I know some of you will disagree with this, but I would take a miserable SOB who consistently wins over the most charming guy in the world who consistently underachieves. I don't need to like the SJU coach, I only need to like his results. Guess that's why I was a Raider fan growing up: Just win baby!
 
Lav's driver is moving on;

@JonRothstein: Long Beach State's Dan Monson has hired Jason Tilton as DOBO, source told @CBSSports. Tilton was in administrative position at St. John's.
 
Lav's driver is moving on;

@JonRothstein: Long Beach State's Dan Monson has hired Jason Tilton as DOBO, source told @CBSSports. Tilton was in administrative position at St. John's.
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strong drive for success no doubt
 
Lav's driver is moving on;

@JonRothstein: Long Beach State's Dan Monson has hired Jason Tilton as DOBO, source told @CBSSports. Tilton was in administrative position at St. John's.
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I liked him. Good energy guy on the bench. Efficient but didn't overdo it. St. John's loss.

But SoCal is SoCal. Ask Lou Alcindor. Or an avocado.
 
Creighton blog summary of last week's interview w Lavin;

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Good, earnest folks in America's heartland. It won't get a lot of press, but that kind of sincerity is really going to help the conference.
 
Creighton blog summary of last week's interview w Lavin;

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Good, earnest folks in America's heartland. It won't get a lot of press, but that kind of sincerity is really going to help the conference.
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Many years ago I lived in the Midwest, Milwaukee to be exact, and what I found with regard to the people there is "what you see, is what you get". It was very refreshing!
 
The interviewer seemed to be a big fan of Obekpa and asked the coach how he felt to have such a presence in the middle that most teams in the league don't have, but Lavin seemed to throw some ice water on it by saying that it while it was an asset, Obekpa had to mature both on and off the court. Interesting. It wasn't a knock, but it wasn't the ringing endorsement that we heard regarding Harrison's maturation last off-season. Then again, Coach seemed pretty tired and didn't really give his usual bubbly interview.

When asked what brought the turnaround in February, Coach cited Rysheed's growth. This team will really surprise, man. Anyone expecting less than 20 wins is waaaaay off even with the ridiculous schedule. 20 wins last season with three heartbreakers and we had a freshman PG who was a fraction of what he would become in February for the first half of the season.

To my dismay, Coach mentioned Dom Pointer a few times and it makes me think he will be starting. Hopefully he has grown because he was awful last year and we really suffered because of it. He wouldn't be the first senior to see everything finally click for him. I'd post more, but I have to refill my Kool-Aid.
 
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