SJU Transfer Targets/Possibilities

redken post=431935 said:
gman post=431906 said:
PharmDJohnnie11 post=431905 said:
https://twitter.com/theteambbc/status/1383113310191620100?s=21

This came out of no where. Offensive numbers seem pretty bad but was a high level defender and a 4 star out of HS. Do we actually have a shot here?
well we are in his final 2...so I say we have a shot.


Pass.

Pass? On a 6’4” Big 10 guard who is an excellent defender?   I don’t pass on this kid.  Not only 25 pts on Purdue, but 19 pts 7 rebs vs Cuse, 13 pts 5 assists vs Iowa, 16 vs Ohio State, 15 against Illinois, 13 vs Minnesota and others.  He’s had some low production games as well but has been a starter most of his career and is a very hard-nosed kid and would be great in our up-tempo style.

I will add that first half of the season Mathis was a top 25 scorer in the Big Ten, and was averaging over 30 minutes per game.  His minutes were cut in half and his production dropped as well.  Rutgers plays a slow-down half-court style.  Kid is very much an Arkansas style player and talented.   I think he offers more than Greg overall.  Look at his first half of season stats and minutes vs second.  Kid would be a beast here.  Definitely not a kid to pass on. 
 
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While we all might wish to have a healthy GW, who has the ability to provide good and consistent offense and defense, IF HEALTHY, getting a battle-tested B10 guard with a defensive motor close to Posh's would be a nice replacement for GW.
 
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Not loving Mathis.  If you had a really good roster and wanted to supplement that roster with a solid player who can give you minutes off the bench with experience, then yes.  But I think they need to do a little better with these last few spots.

 
 
bamafan post=431932 said:
Paultzman post=431929 said:
On Montez v Greg it is a close call and if the latter is back, Anderson knows what he’s doing. Nice to see options.


 
Saying goes that the best ability is availability so if GW back problems are chronic would not mind MM at all as he was a starter for almost all games his FR and Soph seasons.
Another thing I wonder with Greg, since he's had some reoccurring back issues, if he may be looking for a school that maybe has a better training/medical staff.  Sometimes a really good training staff can make a big difference, I'm not sure where St. John's ranks in that.
 
Duke of Earlington post=431911 said:
I watched a bunch of Rutgers games this year and dont recall anything from this guy.
 
Does the Duke know you cheated on him by watch a basketball game that he wasn't involved in?!?!? 
 
I have no idea if the staff is actually looking at Mathis and WIlliams for the same spot but if that is true then I agree I would prefer having Greg back. That being said if Mathis ends up here it's because he's needed and we could do a lot worse. I've also watched Rutgers a bit and I think he'd be a much better fit here since he's better in transition. The problem with him in my eyes is that he's really inefficient in the half court offense. I'd hope he's coming in as a guy who will get good minutes off the bench but not play the lion's share.

Also, Williams coming back would help our outside shooting but I don't think he's the answer. We want to add outside shooting so we can spread the floor and open things up. Williams shoots a GREAT percentage but the reason for it is he never takes a bad shot. He never forces it. That's an excellent trait but he doesn't have a quick release and he usually takes it when it's obvious he'll take it (he's wide open) He's not a marksman. Opposing defenses don't game plan against St. John's by saying we have to keep an eye on this Williams kid from deep. He hits 1 a game. That's one of the reasons why I'm way higher than most on Stef Smith. He shoots 3's in volume. It's not just about the %. Smith will spread the floor more than Williams because his defender will know he needs to be attached. I want WIlliams back but if we add two more guards I would hope it's WIlliams and still another deep threat. Obviously if it's Mathis I'm personally fine with him but adding a shooter is that much more important then. Smith, Champagnie and another gunner would probably help our half court offense tremendously (like Soriano hopefully will for different reasons)
 
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Paultzman post=431929 said:
On Montez v Greg it is a close call and if the latter is back, Anderson knows what he’s doing. Nice to see options.

Paultz, is this the news you referred to the other day for which you predicted the Board would be split?
 
Making Plays post=431931 said:
https://twitter.com/KevinConnelly24/status/1383117822570692608

Interesting comments by Kevin here, thinks Mathis would give St. John's the best defensive back court in the Big East.  Not sure how familiar Kevin is with Rutgers and Mathis, but I always read his articles and he seems to be knowledgeable.






I don’t think neither Greg or Mathis is in the starting lineup when the season rolls around. 
 
 
As QueensBall posted SJU better not forget about the outside shooting. Champ and Smith right now are the only dependable three point shooters.
 
Enright post=431963 said:
As QueensBall posted SJU better not forget about the outside shooting. Champ and Smith right now are the only dependable three point shooters.
I think Posh, Wusu, Pinzon, Wheeler, Nyiwe, Traore are also all capable of shooting the 3.  Champ and Smith are probably the only guys you probably would say have a chance to shoot 40+% from three, but that's alright.  If you can get half of those other guys I mentioned to be respectable shooting the 3 in the mid 30's you can still be a very good team, especially since you now have a post scoring presence with Soriano, the ball will be worked into the post a lot more and get scoring from there now.  Also, I'm sure with the remaining 2 guards they are bringing in at least one of them will be respectable at shooting.
 
Shooter and a combo guard with decent stroke and capable of running some point to me seems ideal duo. Guys who declared for NBA but left wiggle room like Alvarado and Jacob Young of Rutgers would be ideal IMO, but waiting for guys like that to decide has its risks. Tricky stuff

Must say staff has added three solid transfer additions and feel more confident they will complete the process positively with remaining moves despite some initial turbulence. 
 
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Enright post=431963 said:
As QueensBall posted SJU better not forget about the outside shooting. Champ and Smith right now are the only dependable three point shooters.

Smith has played well against high-major comp. But the vast majority of his playing time has been against the NJIT, Stony Brook and U of Maines of the world. He now has to deal with the closeout speed of BE defenders not just 2 or 3 times a season but every night. Hope he can still nail them. 
 
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fordham96 post=431945 said:
Not loving Mathis.  If you had a really good roster and wanted to supplement that roster with a solid player who can give you minutes off the bench with experience, then yes.  But I think they need to do a little better with these last few spots.


 
I agree.  If you aren't a threat from outside as a 2G/SF, you had better be able to capitalize on your ability to drive to the basket, otherwise we are easy to defend when you are on the court.   I can live with a defensive specialist who shoots 29% from three if he's explosive and attacks the basket, but in that scenario you have to be a good FT shooter and 55% for a 2G is horrific.  
 
Making Plays wrote:
I think Posh, Wusu, Pinzon, Wheeler, Nyiwe, Traore are also all capable of shooting the 3.  Champ and Smith are probably the only guys you probably would say have a chance to shoot 40+% from three, but that's alright.  If you can get half of those other guys I mentioned to be respectable shooting the 3 in the mid 30's you can still be a very good team, especially since you now have a post scoring presence with Soriano, the ball will be worked into the post a lot more and get scoring from there now.  Also, I'm sure with the remaining 2 guards they are bringing in at least one of them will be respectable at shooting. 

MP, I agree that those guys are all capable of shooting the three, but not convinced most of them have shown the ability to make them consistently. Posh did show a nice stroke from there at times and believe he can improve on 30% he shot last year but Wusu shot 27% and threw up a lot of bricks from three, will have to show me more before I'd ever call him a three point threat.  Wheeler may surprise if he goes back to the way he shot threes as a frosh; I think of Traore as an inside player who will not be shooting threes and from what I've heard Pinzon will need to develop a consistent three point shot over time. I don't think any of us know much about what the mysterious Nyiwe is capable of but doubt coach wants him hoisting many threes.  Just my thoughts, but I think we absolutely need at least one more consistent, proven shooter. 
 
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Paultzman post=431965 said:
Shooter and a combo guard with decent stroke and capable of running some point to me seems ideal duo. Guys who declared for NBA but left wiggle room like Alvarado and Jacob Young of Rutgers would be ideal IMO, but waiting for guys like that to decide has its risks. Tricky stuff

If you are just trying to make the tournament go the safe route and get the best players you can now. If you want a shot at a special season you need to get lucky and land a player like Alvarado or Young. I think you do the best to cut the middle which CMA seems to be doing a good job at.
 
Montez was 5/5 from 3 vs Purdue.  Seems like he’s capable AND can really play defense and penetrate.  I think we’d be crazy to pass on this kid and I don’t think cma will if he can land him.  He’s very much a player who would thrive in CMA’s system at both ends.
 
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MCNPA post=431972 said:
Montez was 5/5 from 3 vs Purdue.  Seems like he’s capable AND can really play defense and penetrate.  I think we’d be crazy to pass on this kid and I don’t think cma will if he can land him.  He’s very much a player who would thrive in CMA’s system at both ends.


That’s the worrisome part. Aside from that one game he was a 24% 3pt shooter.
 
Kind of reminds me of the Nick Rutherford pickup. Guy with not so great offensive stats with a great motor and a senior leader. Rutherford worked out pretty well so I’m good with Mathis.
 
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