SJU Portal Targets

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Sorry having to mention this, but a little crude and in bad taste maybe?
 
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Back on topic - it appears a Vince and possible Scott commitment are happening this week. Any other potential visits lined up? Any word on if the Utah guard is actually considering us?
 
dk423 said:
Wild.

Honestly can't be that upset (don't look at my posts a ten pages ago) if this was a bag chase.
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Definitely bag chae. Why leave duke like a premier team in the nation to goto Baylor? Who has a better chance of dancing? Kid just got paid..... appears it's more about money then bball so not disappointed . Rick wants players that want to be here and of course get some dough too not the other way around
 
njfan said:
Definitely bag chae. Why leave duke like a premier team in the nation to goto Baylor? Who has a better chance of dancing? Kid just got paid..... appears it's more about money then bball so not disappointed . Rick wants players that want to be here and of course get some dough too not the other way around
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Absolutely. I still think the 1.5 mill number is agent BS spin, but wouldn't be surprised if it's 1 mill -- which in this world is a huge difference.

Cliff's thing also looks like a bag chase. Makes me less disappointed in losing him as well -- although there are plenty of process-driven questions that STJ needs to ask in the summer about that one. How in the world did Matt A not anticipate that + why were we so confident in landing him if this is what it ended up being? There was definitely some level of miscommunication/bad reading/etc. being done on our side. The guy was literally his agent and knew his family well, and it seems like Cliff remained with Octagon.

Either way, I like that we're not going to just end up targeting the bag chasers. Maybe it's copium, but these aren't Lebron-level impact guys that guarantee you make the second round in the NCAAs. We need guys that buy into winning, team culture, Pitino's system, and personal development.
 
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And I bet he got the money that he denied he got.

Have to deny for the sake of team chemistry.
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njfan said:
Definitely bag chae. Why leave duke like a premier team in the nation to goto Baylor? Who has a better chance of dancing? Kid just got paid..... appears it's more about money then bball so not disappointed . Rick wants players that want to be here and of course get some dough too not the other way around
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A factor that I don’t think anyone has mentioned is this , if Roach came here to NY with a 1 Million dollar deal , he would pay about $ 75,000in NY State Income tax .

In Texas for $ 1 million , he would pay about $ 10,000 in State Income Tax .

This is not a political statement . It is a Financial Statement .

Don’t kid yourselves , these Portal players have all sorts of Financial and Legal Advisors . In addition to those who hang around the Player , family , friends , new friends , etc
 
dk423 said:
Absolutely. I still think the 1.5 mill number is agent BS spin, but wouldn't be surprised if it's 1 mill -- which in this world is a huge difference.

Cliff's thing also looks like a bag chase. Makes me less disappointed in losing him as well -- although there are plenty of process-driven questions that STJ needs to ask in the summer about that one. How in the world did Matt A not anticipate that + why were we so confident in landing him if this is what it ended up being? There was definitely some level of miscommunication/bad reading/etc. being done on our side. The guy was literally his agent and knew his family well, and it seems like Cliff remained with Octagon.

Either way, I like that we're not going to just end up targeting the bag chasers. Maybe it's copium, but these aren't Lebron-level impact guys that guarantee you make the second round in the NCAAs. We need guys that buy into winning, team culture, Pitino's system, and personal development.
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SJ guy dropping info about imminent Cliff signing was not helpful.
 
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paultzman said:
Dropping info about imminent Cliff signing was not helpful, oh well.
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I don't think it's on you or anyone else at all. As soon as he entered the portal, I think there were expectations we'd be heavy favorites since we literally had him enter. I think this is the one guy from this portal where it's fair to question the staff's execution on recruiting + their plan.

Thankfully, the staff took the hint and pivoted quickly.
 
dk423 said:
I don't think it's on you or anyone else at all. As soon as he entered the portal, I think there were expectations we'd be heavy favorites since we literally had him enter. I think this is the one guy from this portal where it's fair to question the staff's execution on recruiting + their plan.

Thankfully, the staff took the hint and pivoted quickly.
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getting the sense this was a matt A issue
 
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