Shamorie Ponds

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In addition to being named the @BIGEASTMBB Player of the Week, @ShamorieP has also been named the Lute Olson Award National Player of the Week!
Per @StJohnsBBall

Zach B
Shamorie Ponds on his fast start: “I felt I didn’t do anything yet. We got a long season left. I can go up or go down. Definitely not satisfied.” #sjubb

Shamorie Ponds said he's been disappointed by his 3-point shooting and wants to attack more, not settle for jumpers. "Personally, no, not my best at all." #sjubb
 
Clearly the people responsible for nominating him for these honors do not read these boards. Otherwise they would be educated on the fact that Ponds dribbles too much, plays to much "schoolyard ball" and doesn't do a good enough job of setting up Marvin Clark to miss more threes.
 
SJU will only benefit if Ponds takes it to the rim instead of settling for a three. He is a great penetrator and foul shooter.
 
[quote="we are sju" post=304848]Clearly the people responsible for nominating him for these honors do not read these boards. Otherwise they would be educated on the fact that Ponds dribbles too much, plays to much "schoolyard ball" and doesn't do a good enough job of setting up Marvin Clark to miss more threes.[/quote]

Lol. Well-said. Thanks ‘...sju’.
 
[quote="we are sju" post=304848]Clearly the people responsible for nominating him for these honors do not read these boards. Otherwise they would be educated on the fact that Ponds dribbles too much, plays to much "schoolyard ball" and doesn't do a good enough job of setting up Marvin Clark to miss more threes.[/quote]

If Ponds had your mentality, his future would be schoolyard ball and a career in Lithuania, Peru, Morocco, anywhere but the NBA. He realizes, like many of us do, that there are separate quantum leaps from high school star to college star to the NBA.

If the draft was held today, even if only based on last week's work, the first or second round would not be a certainty. Ponds appears to be working very hard at refining his game - ALL ASPECTS of his game, because to get to the NBA at his size, he needs to be a dead eye shooter from three, be the best ball handler on the floor, and be a great distributor as well. Even with 67 points in 2 games last week, Ponds knows there is much improvement to convince the NBA he is worth a 1st round look.

If the only issue was him putting up points, or even us getting to the Dance, he'd be a good bet right now to get drafted. But it isn't. He has a lot to prove, appears to have a strong desire to do it, and frankly I'm excited to see more of the thread the needle passes, and other game refinements as he works towards that end.
 
Through 7 games Ponds is shooing 63% on 2 pt shots. Unbelievable around the basket. He also has a 3.1 A:TO ratio. Yesterday he again made huge defensive plays late.
 
[quote="Amaseinyourface" post=305964]Through 7 games Ponds is shooing 63% on 2 pt shots. Unbelievable around the basket. He also has a 3.1 A:TO ratio. Yesterday he again made huge defensive plays late.[/quote]
Ponds is obviously such a force in tight end of game situations with money results drawing fouls and converting. Such a valuable commodity! Enjoy him, because you won’t readily see such an offensive force like him wearing red and white for some time I suspect.
 
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Ponds has a chance at the NBA. He is somewhere in between a lock and a huge longshot. Showing he can lead his team to a big season will go a long way. As a guard and the dominant force on the team, he needs to show NBA teams he is a winner. No matter how hard he works, he can't change his height and level of athleticism. The NBA, which everyone seems to forget, has the best talent from all over the world. I'm hoping that his fearlessness with a game on the line will endear him to a team willing to give him a chance. I don't want this to be the last year I can watch him play.
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=305972][quote="Amaseinyourface" post=305964]Through 7 games Ponds is shooing 63% on 2 pt shots. Unbelievable around the basket. He also has a 3.1 A:TO ratio. Yesterday he again made huge defensive plays late.[/quote]
Ponds is obviously such a force in tight end of game situations with money results drawing fouls and converting. Such a valuable commodity! Enjoy him, because you won’t readily see such an offensive force like him wearing red and white for some time I suspect.[/quote]

May never see a guy as adept at finishing around the rim. In any circumstance really, and undoubtedly something that will be a huge asset playing against pros.
 
That makes sense. I would have said 25-35, don't see him going later than first few picks of second round if team is successful and he has the kind of year he looks like he will. The NBA has plenty of guys who were successful being picked at that point. If all the stars align, maybe he goes closer to 20. Will really miss watching him play for the Johnnies, but he certainly deserves the chance to take care of his family. He's been a great Johnnie.
 
I just hope he can continue to be a team player and not feel so much pressure that he tries to do too much and hurts team chemistry. Certainly not an easy thing to balance.
 
Ponds is on a roll now, and a pleasure to watch. I would say that to the hoop he is slippery, having the advantage of being lefthanded. No matter how much defenders are aware of that, muscle memory causes defenders to lean towards his right hand with every head fake, stutter step, or crossover. Of course there is much more to it.

What Ponds must do, and he knows this, is not for this stretch to be just a hot streak in his season, but to sustain this end to end, and if there is post season play, to dazzle there as well. I'm pretty confident that Mullin, Greg, and Mitch remind Ponds of this constantly. He won't be evaluated on the strength of how he plays at his best, but for the consistency that he displays over the course of a season. And of course, closing out games by carrying his team is a huge contributor to his stock value.
 
For a player like Ponds its going to come down to a team or two falling in love with him. He could go as high as top 20 but he could also slip to the later in the second round.
 
[quote="Amaseinyourface" post=306395]For a player like Ponds its going to come down to a team or two falling in love with him. He could go as high as top 20 but he could also slip to the later in the second round.[/quote]

Or he could go undrafted.
 
[quote="ron s m" post=306410][quote="Amaseinyourface" post=306395]For a player like Ponds its going to come down to a team or two falling in love with him. He could go as high as top 20 but he could also slip to the later in the second round.[/quote]

Or he could go undrafted.[/quote]

Not happening.
 
Stadium Player of the Year Race (first-place votes in parenthesis)

1. Rui Hachimura, Gonzaga – 83 (4)
2. Zion Williamson, Duke – 81 (5)
T3. RJ Barrett, Duke – 62 (1)
T3. Grant Williams, Tennessee – 62 (0)
5. Ethan Happ, Wisconsin 47 (0)
6. Caleb Martin, Nevada – 38 (0)
7. LaGerald Vick, Kansas 35 (0)
8. De’Andre Hunter, Virginia 32 (0)
9. Dedric Lawson, Kansas 23 (0)
10. Carsen Edwards, Purdue 22 (0)

11. Shamorie Ponds, St. John’s – 13
T12. Jarrett Culver, Texas Tech – 9
T12. Luguentz Dort, Arizona State – 9
14. Ignas Brazdeikis, Michigan – 6
T15. Chris Clemons, Campbell – 5
T15. Brandon Clarke, Gonzaga – 5
T17. Ja Morant, Murray State – 4
T17. Tre Jones, Duke – 4
T19. Jordan Caroline, Nevada – 3
T19. Nickeil Alexander-Walker, Virginia Tech – 3

Here is the voting panel:

Jeff Goodman, Stadium
Clark Kellogg, CBS Sports
Doug Gottlieb, Fox Sports
Mike DeCourcy, Sporting News
Jeff Borzello, ESPN
Rob Dauster, NBC Sports
Matt Norlander, CBSSports.com
Dana O’Neil, The Athletic
Mark Titus, The Ringer
Jeff Eisenberg, Yahoo Sports
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=306423]Stadium Player of the Year Race (first-place votes in parenthesis)

1. Rui Hachimura, Gonzaga – 83 (4)
2. Zion Williamson, Duke – 81 (5)
T3. RJ Barrett, Duke – 62 (1)
T3. Grant Williams, Tennessee – 62 (0)
5. Ethan Happ, Wisconsin 47 (0)
6. Caleb Martin, Nevada – 38 (0)
7. LaGerald Vick, Kansas 35 (0)
8. De’Andre Hunter, Virginia 32 (0)
9. Dedric Lawson, Kansas 23 (0)
10. Carsen Edwards, Purdue 22 (0)

11. Shamorie Ponds, St. John’s – 13
T12. Jarrett Culver, Texas Tech – 9
T12. Luguentz Dort, Arizona State – 9
14. Ignas Brazdeikis, Michigan – 6
T15. Chris Clemons, Campbell – 5
T15. Brandon Clarke, Gonzaga – 5
T17. Ja Morant, Murray State – 4
T17. Tre Jones, Duke – 4
T19. Jordan Caroline, Nevada – 3
T19. Nickeil Alexander-Walker, Virginia Tech – 3

Here is the voting panel:

Jeff Goodman, Stadium
Clark Kellogg, CBS Sports
Doug Gottlieb, Fox Sports
Mike DeCourcy, Sporting News
Jeff Borzello, ESPN
Rob Dauster, NBC Sports
Matt Norlander, CBSSports.com
Dana O’Neil, The Athletic
Mark Titus, The Ringer
Jeff Eisenberg, Yahoo Sports[/quote]

4 Canadian Freshmen in the top 20. And people think all we do is play hockey. :)
 
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