Seton Hall, Sat. Feb. 11, 12 Noon, CBS SN/SiriusXM

NIT? My mind right now is on winning the BET and getting an automatic bid. The only team that worries me is Nova. We've already handled Butler, Creighton and Xavier have both lost their PG and all the other teams we'd be either favored or a pick em. Avoid the 5 seed so we don't meet Nova till the finals and anything can happen

I'll have what he's having. :)

I like the mentality. Why not? We are playing our best basketball right now. 5 games left and we've beaten 3 of them. The others like Creighton lost their star PG, and this time the Hoyas are at home. Anything can happen with 5 games left, if we are peaking entering the BET. we can still work our way to some sort of post-season if we play the way we have been.
 
Yakwe drew a charge around the four minute mark that kept the Hall at a safe distance when momentum shifted their way. It was as big a play as any.

Drew three charges total. Eight points, three charges, three blocks, three rebounds, flummoxed Delgado much of the game. Haters gonna hate.

Lol. So we should ignore his rebounds stats for the year because of his well played game today? I like Yakwe, kinda made that clear, doesn't take away from the fact that he averages only 3.5 rebounds a game, down 2 from his freshman year. That's the point I was making.

One of the great things about being me is that I get to offend people I couldn't pick out of a line up. So while I'm happy that my reply made you laugh out loud, I don't know who you are and I don't know what you said and my hiLOLarious reply was not aimed in your direction. ROFLMAO smiley face smiley face smiley face. But since you asked, I'll answer.

Angel Delgado is a grown ass 22 year old man who's 6 feet 10 inches tall and weights 240 pounds. He averages 15 points and 10 rebounds a game. He's a sure fire first team BE player and in real life might be the BE player of the year, because without him SH would be DePaul. Probably he won't win it, but he probably deserves it.

Kassoum Yakwe - 19 years old, a sophomore who should be a freshmen, all of 6 foot seven inches and 210 pounds - played Delgado yesterday to close to a draw in what was one of his better performances of the year. Throw out the Nova game in between and in his last two he's scored 22 points, 9 rebounds and six blocks. That's pretty good. Not great, surely could be better. He seems to me to be playing with more confidence and I hope he's shed the funk he's been in and maybe turned a little bit of a corner. But then I'm an old softie with a unicorn glass of half full of rainbows.

It's strange in light of that performance to read a discussion of his deficiencies, what he's "terrible" at, what Division two school he should be transferring to. It's particularly strange to me to hear it from a guy who spent the entire summer and fall repeating the mantra "patience" whenever a discouraging word was heard in some discussion he thought everyone should "move on" from. That's the guy to whom I was referring, not you rawdawgnyc - btw kewl name bro - and to the extent that you took it personally, you shouldn't have. I was surprised to read that discussion in this thread an hour after SJU defeated a cross town rival at Madison Square Garden on national television in the now legendary Battle for Sixth Place because it seems so incongruent, because they won and the kid played well. Soon enough they'll lose and he'll play bad and then you all (royal) can shit on him: as the man said, patience. So I replied with what to me was a shrug: haters gonna hate. Because there were lots of things that might have come under discussion - good and bad - and many of them more relevant than how Yakwe will fare next year at CW Post. I don't begrudge you your conversation - I would never tell you to move on - but I did want to register my opinion, which is this, shrug not having registered:

What I think it is is that SJ has been down so long and its fans have been so beaten down that they are conditioned to enjoy failure. They associate nostalgically with Saint John's basketball, which has disappointed them their entire lives. So that when something good happens they reach for the bad because the pain makes them feels pleasure. It's like cutting, there's just less blood.



Fun sometimes I find you sarcasm a little over the top, lol. However I totally agree with you regarding Yawke as I have stated in another thread. It amazes me how quickly we turn on our players
if redmen.com had a charter flight and crashed in the Andes forget seeing people help each other. Everyone would be looking around to see who the first meal would be . :)

You'd starve to death because you'd be looking for lobster rolls washed down with pale ales. :cheer:
Yeah bur I know Guiness77,BrookJersey Redmen and MCNPA are the most likely to carry beer in their suitcases so I'm taking the first 2 out and keeping MCN around a while since he works in a hospital he can be of use to me :)

you've really thought this through
I read this book to help me prepare for anything in life


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Now I've been a fan for longer than I care to remember but you've just taken it to a whole new level.
 
Yakwe drew a charge around the four minute mark that kept the Hall at a safe distance when momentum shifted their way. It was as big a play as any.

Drew three charges total. Eight points, three charges, three blocks, three rebounds, flummoxed Delgado much of the game. Haters gonna hate.

Lol. So we should ignore his rebounds stats for the year because of his well played game today? I like Yakwe, kinda made that clear, doesn't take away from the fact that he averages only 3.5 rebounds a game, down 2 from his freshman year. That's the point I was making.

One of the great things about being me is that I get to offend people I couldn't pick out of a line up. So while I'm happy that my reply made you laugh out loud, I don't know who you are and I don't know what you said and my hiLOLarious reply was not aimed in your direction. ROFLMAO smiley face smiley face smiley face. But since you asked, I'll answer.

Angel Delgado is a grown ass 22 year old man who's 6 feet 10 inches tall and weights 240 pounds. He averages 15 points and 10 rebounds a game. He's a sure fire first team BE player and in real life might be the BE player of the year, because without him SH would be DePaul. Probably he won't win it, but he probably deserves it.

Kassoum Yakwe - 19 years old, a sophomore who should be a freshmen, all of 6 foot seven inches and 210 pounds - played Delgado yesterday to close to a draw in what was one of his better performances of the year. Throw out the Nova game in between and in his last two he's scored 22 points, 9 rebounds and six blocks. That's pretty good. Not great, surely could be better. He seems to me to be playing with more confidence and I hope he's shed the funk he's been in and maybe turned a little bit of a corner. But then I'm an old softie with a unicorn glass of half full of rainbows.

It's strange in light of that performance to read a discussion of his deficiencies, what he's "terrible" at, what Division two school he should be transferring to. It's particularly strange to me to hear it from a guy who spent the entire summer and fall repeating the mantra "patience" whenever a discouraging word was heard in some discussion he thought everyone should "move on" from. That's the guy to whom I was referring, not you rawdawgnyc - btw kewl name bro - and to the extent that you took it personally, you shouldn't have. I was surprised to read that discussion in this thread an hour after SJU defeated a cross town rival at Madison Square Garden on national television in the now legendary Battle for Sixth Place because it seems so incongruent, because they won and the kid played well. Soon enough they'll lose and he'll play bad and then you all (royal) can shit on him: as the man said, patience. So I replied with what to me was a shrug: haters gonna hate. Because there were lots of things that might have come under discussion - good and bad - and many of them more relevant than how Yakwe will fare next year at CW Post. I don't begrudge you your conversation - I would never tell you to move on - but I did want to register my opinion, which is this, shrug not having registered:

What I think it is is that SJ has been down so long and its fans have been so beaten down that they are conditioned to enjoy failure. They associate nostalgically with Saint John's basketball, which has disappointed them their entire lives. So that when something good happens they reach for the bad because the pain makes them feels pleasure. It's like cutting, there's just less blood.



Fun sometimes I find you sarcasm a little over the top, lol. However I totally agree with you regarding Yawke as I have stated in another thread. It amazes me how quickly we turn on our players. All of us on the board entered our professional lives as works in progress. If our first two years were recorded and played out in public, I can only imagine what would have happened. For some, the learning curve takes a little longer. Some on this board wanted to threw Dom Pointer under the bus after his sophmore year, look at how he turned out. Kassoum is a nice young man who wants to play at St. Johns, let's support him and hop that he continues to grow as a player.
Damn, I just agreed with Fun. Miracles never cease.

Glad to hear that Kassoum really wants to be here, and that he's a nice young man, from someone who knows first hand. Because of the situation he came in to, it's been baptism by fire for him. He and the team would have been much better served if he were able to be brought along more slowly, but that luxury didn't and doesn't exist. The regression this year is still concerning, but he is playing better as of late and hopefully that will continue in to next years. The same weaknesses that we see in his game, the staff also sees and I am certain that they are working with Kassoum to improve on those weaknesses. Hoping that next year we will see a much improved Kassoum, and hoping that we add a big body and that the two will serve to compliment each other.
 
Yakwe drew a charge around the four minute mark that kept the Hall at a safe distance when momentum shifted their way. It was as big a play as any.

Drew three charges total. Eight points, three charges, three blocks, three rebounds, flummoxed Delgado much of the game. Haters gonna hate.

Lol. So we should ignore his rebounds stats for the year because of his well played game today? I like Yakwe, kinda made that clear, doesn't take away from the fact that he averages only 3.5 rebounds a game, down 2 from his freshman year. That's the point I was making.

One of the great things about being me is that I get to offend people I couldn't pick out of a line up. So while I'm happy that my reply made you laugh out loud, I don't know who you are and I don't know what you said and my hiLOLarious reply was not aimed in your direction. ROFLMAO smiley face smiley face smiley face. But since you asked, I'll answer.

Angel Delgado is a grown ass 22 year old man who's 6 feet 10 inches tall and weights 240 pounds. He averages 15 points and 10 rebounds a game. He's a sure fire first team BE player and in real life might be the BE player of the year, because without him SH would be DePaul. Probably he won't win it, but he probably deserves it.

Kassoum Yakwe - 19 years old, a sophomore who should be a freshmen, all of 6 foot seven inches and 210 pounds - played Delgado yesterday to close to a draw in what was one of his better performances of the year. Throw out the Nova game in between and in his last two he's scored 22 points, 9 rebounds and six blocks. That's pretty good. Not great, surely could be better. He seems to me to be playing with more confidence and I hope he's shed the funk he's been in and maybe turned a little bit of a corner. But then I'm an old softie with a unicorn glass of half full of rainbows.

It's strange in light of that performance to read a discussion of his deficiencies, what he's "terrible" at, what Division two school he should be transferring to. It's particularly strange to me to hear it from a guy who spent the entire summer and fall repeating the mantra "patience" whenever a discouraging word was heard in some discussion he thought everyone should "move on" from. That's the guy to whom I was referring, not you rawdawgnyc - btw kewl name bro - and to the extent that you took it personally, you shouldn't have. I was surprised to read that discussion in this thread an hour after SJU defeated a cross town rival at Madison Square Garden on national television in the now legendary Battle for Sixth Place because it seems so incongruent, because they won and the kid played well. Soon enough they'll lose and he'll play bad and then you all (royal) can shit on him: as the man said, patience. So I replied with what to me was a shrug: haters gonna hate. Because there were lots of things that might have come under discussion - good and bad - and many of them more relevant than how Yakwe will fare next year at CW Post. I don't begrudge you your conversation - I would never tell you to move on - but I did want to register my opinion, which is this, shrug not having registered:

What I think it is is that SJ has been down so long and its fans have been so beaten down that they are conditioned to enjoy failure. They associate nostalgically with Saint John's basketball, which has disappointed them their entire lives. So that when something good happens they reach for the bad because the pain makes them feels pleasure. It's like cutting, there's just less blood.

As a long suffering St. John's fan, sometimes I feel like Gnossos Pappadopoulis in Richard Fariña's 60's novel, "Been Down So Long It Looks Like Up to Me".  We like to protest our basketball failures but thank God for wine, cheese and college girls in knee high socks to ease the pain.
 
NIT? My mind right now is on winning the BET and getting an automatic bid. The only team that worries me is Nova. We've already handled Butler, Creighton and Xavier have both lost their PG and all the other teams we'd be either favored or a pick em. Avoid the 5 seed so we don't meet Nova till the finals and anything can happen

I'll have what he's having. :)

I like the mentality. Why not? We are playing our best basketball right now. 5 games left and we've beaten 3 of them. The others like Creighton lost their star PG, and this time the Hoyas are at home. Anything can happen with 5 games left, if we are peaking entering the BET. we can still work our way to some sort of post-season if we play the way we have been.

Given that we haven't won a single BE tournament game since 2011, when our lone victory was a 65-63 drubbing of Rutgers, I'd say that sweeping through this year's tournament with a young, inexperienced, erratic team with obvious flaws is a bit of pipe dream (with something strong in that pipe). I'd be thrilled if it ever happened, but at this point what I'm hoping for is something more realistic, like breaking a five-year drought with a first-round win.
 
Willard was quoted on how our playing a bigger lineup all game was a factor. I agree. An adjustment that came too slow for me this year was the recognition that we were playing too small. Yakwe is nowhere near a center. Ahmed is not a four. It is not an accident that these guys look better now. There was not one minute of yesterdays game where Yakwe played as the only big. There were entire games where that is the only way he was utilized. No surprise he looks better this way.

The preseason expectations here for the kid were over the top, and then he regressed. I think it is very fair to wonder how much of that regression was due to Yakwe playing with four guards over and over, three of them who don't look 6'0 to me, no matter what they are listed.

Now I agree on the hands, they are not good. But again, to be fair, not just to Yakwe, but all of our bigs, Lovett has no touch, all his passes come in "hot." Also, if he can do something simple or complicated his pick is usually complicated. Marcus is great overall do not get me wrong there, but his passes are not always easy to catch.

Hard to argue some of those rebounding numbers so I will not. In his role they need to improve. But if you watched yesterdays game, his job yesterday was to keep a body on Delgado and allow Ahmed and Owens space to rebound. And he did it great.

Considering the opposition I thought he played his best game of the year yesterday, including Marquette.
 
he should practice catching passes with one of those smaller basketballs that way the regular basketballs seem much bigger

Sort of like you learning to handle a 16 ounce can of beer by training on the those oil can size beers?
 

Last SJU player to get a triple double was David Cain in the first round of the '93 NCAA tournament. That is, if you don't count Obekpa's memorable triple double in the 2015 exhibition game where he purposely banged the ball off the backboard in order to get his tenth rebound.

Ron Artest had 13 points, 12 rebounds and 11 assists against Seton Hall in 1998-99 season.

http://www.nytimes.com/1999/01/10/s...d-storm-regains-confidence-and-its-touch.html
 
Zach B
Loss to St. John's really hurt Seton Hall's RPI. Fall all the way to 47. Not good. #shbb #sjubb
 
NIT? My mind right now is on winning the BET and getting an automatic bid. The only team that worries me is Nova. We've already handled Butler, Creighton and Xavier have both lost their PG and all the other teams we'd be either favored or a pick em. Avoid the 5 seed so we don't meet Nova till the finals and anything can happen

I'll have what he's having. :)

I like the mentality. Why not? We are playing our best basketball right now. 5 games left and we've beaten 3 of them. The others like Creighton lost their star PG, and this time the Hoyas are at home. Anything can happen with 5 games left, if we are peaking entering the BET. we can still work our way to some sort of post-season if we play the way we have been.

Given that we haven't won a single BE tournament game since 2011, when our lone victory was a 65-63 drubbing of Rutgers, I'd say that sweeping through this year's tournament with a young, inexperienced, erratic team with obvious flaws is a bit of pipe dream (with something strong in that pipe). I'd be thrilled if it ever happened, but at this point what I'm hoping for something more realistic, like breaking a five-year drought with a first-round win.

Well if they play in Colorado they can pUT something in the pipe
 
Zach B
Loss to St. John's really hurt Seton Hall's RPI. Fall all the way to 47. Not good. #shbb #sjubb

Couldn't happen to a nicer team unless it was Yukon or the cuse
 
NIT? My mind right now is on winning the BET and getting an automatic bid. The only team that worries me is Nova. We've already handled Butler, Creighton and Xavier have both lost their PG and all the other teams we'd be either favored or a pick em. Avoid the 5 seed so we don't meet Nova till the finals and anything can happen

I'll have what he's having. :)

I like the mentality. Why not? We are playing our best basketball right now. 5 games left and we've beaten 3 of them. The others like Creighton lost their star PG, and this time the Hoyas are at home. Anything can happen with 5 games left, if we are peaking entering the BET. we can still work our way to some sort of post-season if we play the way we have been.

Given that we haven't won a single BE tournament game since 2011, when our lone victory was a 65-63 drubbing of Rutgers, I'd say that sweeping through this year's tournament with a young, inexperienced, erratic team with obvious flaws is a bit of pipe dream (with something strong in that pipe). I'd be thrilled if it ever happened, but at this point what I'm hoping for something more realistic, like breaking a five-year drought with a first-round win.

Well if they play in Colorado they can pUT something in the pipe

You made me reminiscent of my military days.
"We had no cameras
To shoot the landscape
We passed the hash pipe
And played our Doors tapes"
 
Yakwe drew a charge around the four minute mark that kept the Hall at a safe distance when momentum shifted their way. It was as big a play as any.

Drew three charges total. Eight points, three charges, three blocks, three rebounds, flummoxed Delgado much of the game. Haters gonna hate.

Lol. So we should ignore his rebounds stats for the year because of his well played game today? I like Yakwe, kinda made that clear, doesn't take away from the fact that he averages only 3.5 rebounds a game, down 2 from his freshman year. That's the point I was making.

One of the great things about being me is that I get to offend people I couldn't pick out of a line up. So while I'm happy that my reply made you laugh out loud, I don't know who you are and I don't know what you said and my hiLOLarious reply was not aimed in your direction. ROFLMAO smiley face smiley face smiley face. But since you asked, I'll answer.

Angel Delgado is a grown ass 22 year old man who's 6 feet 10 inches tall and weights 240 pounds. He averages 15 points and 10 rebounds a game. He's a sure fire first team BE player and in real life might be the BE player of the year, because without him SH would be DePaul. Probably he won't win it, but he probably deserves it.

Kassoum Yakwe - 19 years old, a sophomore who should be a freshmen, all of 6 foot seven inches and 210 pounds - played Delgado yesterday to close to a draw in what was one of his better performances of the year. Throw out the Nova game in between and in his last two he's scored 22 points, 9 rebounds and six blocks. That's pretty good. Not great, surely could be better. He seems to me to be playing with more confidence and I hope he's shed the funk he's been in and maybe turned a little bit of a corner. But then I'm an old softie with a unicorn glass of half full of rainbows.

It's strange in light of that performance to read a discussion of his deficiencies, what he's "terrible" at, what Division two school he should be transferring to. It's particularly strange to me to hear it from a guy who spent the entire summer and fall repeating the mantra "patience" whenever a discouraging word was heard in some discussion he thought everyone should "move on" from. That's the guy to whom I was referring, not you rawdawgnyc - btw kewl name bro - and to the extent that you took it personally, you shouldn't have. I was surprised to read that discussion in this thread an hour after SJU defeated a cross town rival at Madison Square Garden on national television in the now legendary Battle for Sixth Place because it seems so incongruent, because they won and the kid played well. Soon enough they'll lose and he'll play bad and then you all (royal) can shit on him: as the man said, patience. So I replied with what to me was a shrug: haters gonna hate. Because there were lots of things that might have come under discussion - good and bad - and many of them more relevant than how Yakwe will fare next year at CW Post. I don't begrudge you your conversation - I would never tell you to move on - but I did want to register my opinion, which is this, shrug not having registered:

What I think it is is that SJ has been down so long and its fans have been so beaten down that they are conditioned to enjoy failure. They associate nostalgically with Saint John's basketball, which has disappointed them their entire lives. So that when something good happens they reach for the bad because the pain makes them feels pleasure. It's like cutting, there's just less blood.



Fun sometimes I find you sarcasm a little over the top, lol. However I totally agree with you regarding Yawke as I have stated in another thread. It amazes me how quickly we turn on our players
if redmen.com had a charter flight and crashed in the Andes forget seeing people help each other. Everyone would be looking around to see who the first meal would be . :)

You'd starve to death because you'd be looking for lobster rolls washed down with pale ales. :cheer:
Yeah bur I know Guiness77,BrookJersey Redmen and MCNPA are the most likely to carry beer in their suitcases so I'm taking the first 2 out and keeping MCN around a while since he works in a hospital he can be of use to me :)

you've really thought this through
I read this book to help me prepare for anything in life


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I'm writing a cookbook called Skillets For Life. It's based loosely on the life of the noted chef Jeffrey Dahmer, maybe you can take with you when you go to the Andes.
 
Yakwe drew a charge around the four minute mark that kept the Hall at a safe distance when momentum shifted their way. It was as big a play as any.

Drew three charges total. Eight points, three charges, three blocks, three rebounds, flummoxed Delgado much of the game. Haters gonna hate.

Lol. So we should ignore his rebounds stats for the year because of his well played game today? I like Yakwe, kinda made that clear, doesn't take away from the fact that he averages only 3.5 rebounds a game, down 2 from his freshman year. That's the point I was making.

One of the great things about being me is that I get to offend people I couldn't pick out of a line up. So while I'm happy that my reply made you laugh out loud, I don't know who you are and I don't know what you said and my hiLOLarious reply was not aimed in your direction. ROFLMAO smiley face smiley face smiley face. But since you asked, I'll answer.

Angel Delgado is a grown ass 22 year old man who's 6 feet 10 inches tall and weights 240 pounds. He averages 15 points and 10 rebounds a game. He's a sure fire first team BE player and in real life might be the BE player of the year, because without him SH would be DePaul. Probably he won't win it, but he probably deserves it.

Kassoum Yakwe - 19 years old, a sophomore who should be a freshmen, all of 6 foot seven inches and 210 pounds - played Delgado yesterday to close to a draw in what was one of his better performances of the year. Throw out the Nova game in between and in his last two he's scored 22 points, 9 rebounds and six blocks. That's pretty good. Not great, surely could be better. He seems to me to be playing with more confidence and I hope he's shed the funk he's been in and maybe turned a little bit of a corner. But then I'm an old softie with a unicorn glass of half full of rainbows.

It's strange in light of that performance to read a discussion of his deficiencies, what he's "terrible" at, what Division two school he should be transferring to. It's particularly strange to me to hear it from a guy who spent the entire summer and fall repeating the mantra "patience" whenever a discouraging word was heard in some discussion he thought everyone should "move on" from. That's the guy to whom I was referring, not you rawdawgnyc - btw kewl name bro - and to the extent that you took it personally, you shouldn't have. I was surprised to read that discussion in this thread an hour after SJU defeated a cross town rival at Madison Square Garden on national television in the now legendary Battle for Sixth Place because it seems so incongruent, because they won and the kid played well. Soon enough they'll lose and he'll play bad and then you all (royal) can shit on him: as the man said, patience. So I replied with what to me was a shrug: haters gonna hate. Because there were lots of things that might have come under discussion - good and bad - and many of them more relevant than how Yakwe will fare next year at CW Post. I don't begrudge you your conversation - I would never tell you to move on - but I did want to register my opinion, which is this, shrug not having registered:

What I think it is is that SJ has been down so long and its fans have been so beaten down that they are conditioned to enjoy failure. They associate nostalgically with Saint John's basketball, which has disappointed them their entire lives. So that when something good happens they reach for the bad because the pain makes them feels pleasure. It's like cutting, there's just less blood.



Fun sometimes I find you sarcasm a little over the top, lol. However I totally agree with you regarding Yawke as I have stated in another thread. It amazes me how quickly we turn on our players
if redmen.com had a charter flight and crashed in the Andes forget seeing people help each other. Everyone would be looking around to see who the first meal would be . :)

You'd starve to death because you'd be looking for lobster rolls washed down with pale ales. :cheer:
Yeah bur I know Guiness77,BrookJersey Redmen and MCNPA are the most likely to carry beer in their suitcases so I'm taking the first 2 out and keeping MCN around a while since he works in a hospital he can be of use to me :)

you've really thought this through
I read this book to help me prepare for anything in life


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I just threw up a little :sick:
 
Sorry if the was covered already. I thought we played well against SH and that we've recently played fairly well against teams we match up well against. Without being critical of any of our guys I think this highlights to our need for a quality big man.
 
Willard was quoted on how our playing a bigger lineup all game was a factor. I agree. An adjustment that came too slow for me this year was the recognition that we were playing too small. Yakwe is nowhere near a center. Ahmed is not a four. It is not an accident that these guys look better now. There was not one minute of yesterdays game where Yakwe played as the only big. There were entire games where that is the only way he was utilized. No surprise he looks better this way.

The preseason expectations here for the kid were over the top, and then he regressed. I think it is very fair to wonder how much of that regression was due to Yakwe playing with four guards over and over, three of them who don't look 6'0 to me, no matter what they are listed.

Now I agree on the hands, they are not good. But again, to be fair, not just to Yakwe, but all of our bigs, Lovett has no touch, all his passes come in "hot." Also, if he can do something simple or complicated his pick is usually complicated. Marcus is great overall do not get me wrong there, but his passes are not always easy to catch.

Hard to argue some of those rebounding numbers so I will not. In his role they need to improve. But if you watched yesterdays game, his job yesterday was to keep a body on Delgado and allow Ahmed and Owens space to rebound. And he did it great.

Considering the opposition I thought he played his best game of the year yesterday, including Marquette.

We started the season going with a big lineup with Sima, Yawke and Ahmed up front and Ponds and Lovett in the backcourt. It fell apart due to ineffectiveness, the bigs getting into foul trouble and Ahmed paying better at the 4.

I agree it is nice to roll it out but the bigs have to stay out of foul trouble.
 
Willard was quoted on how our playing a bigger lineup all game was a factor. I agree. An adjustment that came too slow for me this year was the recognition that we were playing too small. Yakwe is nowhere near a center. Ahmed is not a four. It is not an accident that these guys look better now. There was not one minute of yesterdays game where Yakwe played as the only big. There were entire games where that is the only way he was utilized. No surprise he looks better this way.

The preseason expectations here for the kid were over the top, and then he regressed. I think it is very fair to wonder how much of that regression was due to Yakwe playing with four guards over and over, three of them who don't look 6'0 to me, no matter what they are listed.

Now I agree on the hands, they are not good. But again, to be fair, not just to Yakwe, but all of our bigs, Lovett has no touch, all his passes come in "hot." Also, if he can do something simple or complicated his pick is usually complicated. Marcus is great overall do not get me wrong there, but his passes are not always easy to catch.

Hard to argue some of those rebounding numbers so I will not. In his role they need to improve. But if you watched yesterdays game, his job yesterday was to keep a body on Delgado and allow Ahmed and Owens space to rebound. And he did it great.

Considering the opposition I thought he played his best game of the year yesterday, including Marquette.

We started the season going with a big lineup with Sima, Yawke and Ahmed up front and Ponds and Lovett in the backcourt. It fell apart due to ineffectiveness, the bigs getting into foul trouble and Ahmed paying better at the 4.

I agree it is nice to roll it out but the bigs have to stay out of foul trouble.
 
It seems to me that one reason KY has been playing better of late is that he has stayed out of foul trouble thereby being able to be on the court more. Too often earlier this season he would get a few quick fouls, get glued to the bench and not get into the flow of the game. Lately he's been staying out of foul trouble, getting more p.t. and playing better. I thought he made a major contribution on Delgado enabling others to get rebounds.
 
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