Season Predictions

I learned long ago not to really listen to national publications with regard to this team. Go local until we give national actual reason to legitimately pay attention.
 
Obviously hope he is eligible but seriously doubt it. Looking forward to the minute by minute updates from someone on here about his travel plans if ruled eligible during a class. Who was that during Lavin years? Bourgault? Whoever it was, that thread was the highlight of that guy's career here.
 
[quote="we are sju" post=295054]Obviously hope he is eligible but seriously doubt it. Looking forward to the minute by minute updates from someone on here about his travel plans if ruled eligible during a class. Who was that during Lavin years? Bourgault? Whoever it was, that thread was the highlight of that guy's career here.[/quote]

His former coach supported the transfer due to family hardship and I have no doubt his waiver will be approved. We will be a tremendous offensive threat to all teams with him and I expect him to shine in the Big East. My only concern is getting that key recruit but that's next year's problem. Things are changing so rapidly no one can predict beyond this season any longer. I want to enjoy this year so I don't want to be negative with every bit of news that I read because most of it will be as credible as a drunken 15 year old teen 35 years later who seems to remember someone but can't remember the place or time but is positive after meeting that person only once. I have a very good memory and can't recall if I had dinner with the Mrs. last Sunday so I will take everything about the future with a grain of salt and forget the past......especially the past three seasons.
 
[quote="redmannorth" post=294936][quote="Mike Zaun" post]Yes he has shown gradual improvement, but he's running out of time. This is the final year we have where he can have a loaded roster with experience and depth and finally prove he can make us a tourney team. We don't have any real major players coming in so far next year and we lose a ton after this season, so if he doesn't make the tourney I wouldn't be shocked if he resigned. We should do very well in OOC, the real question will be can we do well in conference.[/quote]

Who said he is running out of time ? Has our non existent AD said that ? Has the school president said that ? Not to my knowledge. Only you keep repeating that.
As for us loosing a ton this season, possibly, but we only have 1 senior so it is very possible everyone but Clark returns and we add Wright and David C and Heron, who may not be cleared for this season. So on paper we are adding far more than we are guaranteed to lose.
As for Mullin resigning after this season I would be shocked if that occurs as I expect continued improvement, though how much remains to be seen.
Please stop posting and repeating the same crap and go take some anti anxiety medication.[/quote]

Mike makes some great points here.
First 3 years 12-42 in conference - improvement is needed here.

As far as next year's roster:
Clark graduates
Ponds has stated numerous times he is leaving
Heron - if has monster year he can leave
Simon- will he pull an Owens and go somewhere else for his last year.

These 4 are big core of the team.

I think should stop picking on Mike it is an accurate post.
 
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[quote="Class of 72" post=295527][quote="we are sju" post=295054]Obviously hope he is eligible but seriously doubt it. Looking forward to the minute by minute updates from someone on here about his travel plans if ruled eligible during a class. Who was that during Lavin years? Bourgault? Whoever it was, that thread was the highlight of that guy's career here.[/quote]

His former coach supported the transfer due to family hardship and I have no doubt his waiver will be approved. We will be a tremendous offensive threat to all teams with him and I expect him to shine in the Big East. My only concern is getting that key recruit but that's next year's problem. Things are changing so rapidly no one can predict beyond this season any longer. I want to enjoy this year so I don't want to be negative with every bit of news that I read because most of it will be as credible as a drunken 15 year old teen 35 years later who seems to remember someone but can't remember the place or time but is positive after meeting that person only once. I have a very good memory and can't recall if I had dinner with the Mrs. last Sunday so I will take everything about the future with a grain of salt and forget the past......especially the past three seasons.[/quote]

I think he should and I obviously want him to be eligible this year. Unfortunately he most likely wont be. NCAA seldom makes sensible decisions. ST John's basketball seldom catches a break. I would bet not only is he not eligible but it drags into early Dec.
 
Pearl did do the right thing as noted by 72 and from what I hear Heron getting waiver is more promising than not, despite SJU historically gettting short end of stick from NCAA.
 
Is the short end of the stick rooted in Lapchick opting for the NIT over an NCAA invite or Jarvis talking about getting raped by the NCAA?
 
[quote="fuchsia" post=295539]Jarvis talking about getting raped by the NCAA?[/quote]

There will be people who say no, and that there's been a ton of turnover at NCAA, but I think there's something to it. It's behavior passed down from one employee to the next.
 
[quote="we are sju" post=295054]Obviously hope he is eligible but seriously doubt it. Looking forward to the minute by minute updates from someone on here about his travel plans if ruled eligible during a class. Who was that during Lavin years? Bourgault? Whoever it was, that thread was the highlight of that guy's career here.[/quote]

No doubt in my mind, Heron plays for St. John’s in 2018-19. None. And I think his addition will be the lethal element—to go with Ponds, Simon, Clark, Figgy, Keita, Dixon, Trimble, Williams—that will produce a season for the Ages.
Here we go.
 
[quote="L J S A" post=295542][quote="fuchsia" post=295539]Jarvis talking about getting raped by the NCAA?[/quote]

There will be people who say no, and that there's been a ton of turnover at NCAA, but I think there's something to it. It's behavior passed down from one employee to the next.[/quote]

Okay, we’re on the NCAA ‘sh*t’ lost, but now they’re struggling to regain credibility at a time when the transfer rules are in a revolutionary change cycle, and Heron’s particular ‘case’ is stronger than most.
As I’ve said, this is not about St. John’s, it’s about the merits of the Heron family’s situation.
He gets the waiver.
 
[quote="Manhattan1" post=295529][quote="redmannorth" post=294936][quote="Mike Zaun" post]Yes he has shown gradual improvement, but he's running out of time. This is the final year we have where he can have a loaded roster with experience and depth and finally prove he can make us a tourney team. We don't have any real major players coming in so far next year and we lose a ton after this season, so if he doesn't make the tourney I wouldn't be shocked if he resigned. We should do very well in OOC, the real question will be can we do well in conference.[/quote]

Who said he is running out of time ? Has our non existent AD said that ? Has the school president said that ? Not to my knowledge. Only you keep repeating that.
As for us loosing a ton this season, possibly, but we only have 1 senior so it is very possible everyone but Clark returns and we add Wright and David C and Heron, who may not be cleared for this season. So on paper we are adding far more than we are guaranteed to lose.
As for Mullin resigning after this season I would be shocked if that occurs as I expect continued improvement, though how much remains to be seen.
Please stop posting and repeating the same crap and go take some anti anxiety medication.[/quote]

Mike makes some great points here.
First 3 years 12-42 in conference - improvement is needed here.

As far as next year's roster:
Clark graduates
Ponds has stated numerous times he is leaving
Heron - if has monster year he can leave
Simon- will he pull an Owens and go somewhere else for his last year.

These 4 are big core of the team.

I think should stop picking on Mike it is an accurate post.[/quote]

Wait, let me get this right. We were 12-42 in conference? How did Class of 72 miss this. Next thing you know, you're going to say we were 1-17 the first season in conference, which I simply don't believe.
 
[quote="Manhattan1" post=295529][quote="redmannorth" post=294936][quote="Mike Zaun" post]Yes he has shown gradual improvement, but he's running out of time. This is the final year we have where he can have a loaded roster with experience and depth and finally prove he can make us a tourney team. We don't have any real major players coming in so far next year and we lose a ton after this season, so if he doesn't make the tourney I wouldn't be shocked if he resigned. We should do very well in OOC, the real question will be can we do well in conference.[/quote]

Who said he is running out of time ? Has our non existent AD said that ? Has the school president said that ? Not to my knowledge. Only you keep repeating that.
As for us loosing a ton this season, possibly, but we only have 1 senior so it is very possible everyone but Clark returns and we add Wright and David C and Heron, who may not be cleared for this season. So on paper we are adding far more than we are guaranteed to lose.
As for Mullin resigning after this season I would be shocked if that occurs as I expect continued improvement, though how much remains to be seen.
Please stop posting and repeating the same crap and go take some anti anxiety medication.[/quote]

Mike makes some great points here.
First 3 years 12-42 in conference - improvement is needed here.

As far as next year's roster:
Clark graduates
Ponds has stated numerous times he is leaving
Heron - if has monster year he can leave
Simon- will he pull an Owens and go somewhere else for his last year.

These 4 are big core of the team.

I think should stop picking on Mike it is an accurate post.[/quote]

I think you missed RMNorth's point. While I agree with Mike that the roster past this season is up in the air the main point was that no one who matters has set a timeline on Mullin so he isn't running out of time. And any allusion to an imminent resignation is pretty far fetched as well, more like wishful thinking on the OP's part. Since those two points keep popping up in Mike's post and are based purely on his own speculation they are worthless statements that frustrate rational posters, supporters and critics alike.
 
This thread is about the upcoming season. It's hard enough to deal with one year a a time here, so why go crazy dealing with next season? Without back to the basket scoring threats, I expect the team to shoot a lot of 3s. They need to shoot high 30s as a team to have a big year, and should be able to do it. Figgy shot close to 50% from 3. That isn't going to happen in the Big East, but I will take 40% all day. Clark should be around 40%. Improvement must come from Ponds. If he can get back to mid to high30s, then his driving game, which is his strong suit, really opens up. Heron shot over 42% as a freshman from 3, then dropped to 33% last season. High 30s should be where he ends up at worst. Shoot the 3, or drive the ball and go to the line. Winning formula on offense. Gang rebounding and swarming on defense. Against smaller teams, let Keita come off the bench to conserve fouls. Play Ponds, Heron, Simon Figgy and Clark. Five guys that can hit the 3. Simon takes heat as a non-shooter, but he picks his spots well and his percentage is fine. There is a lot to like on this team.
 
[quote="Ray Morgan" post=295592]This thread is about the upcoming season. It's hard enough to deal with one year a a time here, so why go crazy dealing with next season? Without back to the basket scoring threats, I expect the team to shoot a lot of 3s. They need to shoot high 30s as a team to have a big year, and should be able to do it. Figgy shot close to 50% from 3. That isn't going to happen in the Big East, but I will take 40% all day. Clark should be around 40%. Improvement must come from Ponds. If he can get back to mid to high30s, then his driving game, which is his strong suit, really opens up. Heron shot over 42% as a freshman from 3, then dropped to 33% last season. High 30s should be where he ends up at worst. Shoot the 3, or drive the ball and go to the line. Winning formula on offense. Gang rebounding and swarming on defense. Against smaller teams, let Keita come off the bench to conserve fouls. Play Ponds, Heron, Simon Figgy and Clark. Five guys that can hit the 3. Simon takes heat as a non-shooter, but he picks his spots well and his percentage is fine. There is a lot to like on this team.[/quote


Very cool post. Thanks Ray.
 
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