Rysheed Jordan

Thank you Coach Mullin for cleaning house when you came in. Wish Jordan the best , but it's best he's no longer in our house.
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Lol, only fitting this turns into a praise Mullin thing. FYI, Mullin and co. did everything they could behind the scenes to get him to stay on the team. .
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Yes he did, but Rysheed blew those chances. Unlike the previous staff, there was a standard that was followed through on. He also gave Obekpa a chance to stay on the team, but he also blew it.

Since blowing those chances, Rysheed has been booted off his D-League team and shot someone, and Obekpa transferred only to waste a year of playing/making $$ to sit out, only to then declare for the Draft after not playing for a year. Clearly, a smart decision.

So based on the decisions of these 2 guys since leaving the program, I'd say that the decision by this current staff have indeed turned out to be good ones.
 
Surprising thing for me is he got much less grief on the boards than did Harrison while they were here. Harrison labeled a "punk" more times than I can recall when in fact Jordan was actually a bad guy and for the most part escaped the same wrath.
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Jordan got less flak because his issues were always covered up. It was "rumored" that he wasn't at practice, or back in philly. But the company line was he was grieving or had a sick relative.

Harrison was treated differently. He was benched for rolling his eyes or yelling at a ref.
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It's pretty disgusting to somehow pin this on Lavin. I really don't care to repeat the things I've heard about some former players in our program that are held up by most of us as real contributors, but some of it rises to criminal. What's clear is that Jordan chose not to become a college student, and never gave up his questionable associations in Philly.

Harrison didn't get suspended for screaming at refs. The final straw was cursing out coaches loudly in ear shot of fans seated courtside while Lavin was away at his father's funeral. Do that at your job and see what happens. Lavin gave Harrison a summer to work on himself and come back with a different attitude. He did, and as such was a Lavin success story. Harrison did the work for sure, but nearly any D1 coach of a major program would have tossed Harrison immediately.

Anyone here who said he shouldn't have been recruited is a gigantic hypocrite. After seeing him here for 2 seasons, just about everyone wanted him back for a third, and projected him as the leader of the team who would have a breakout season.

Bottom line, Jordan is responsible for Jordan, and chose a path to self destruction. He's extremely fortunate he didn't kill his victim, or his prison time would be much more severe. Still plenty of time to turn his life around. It's up to him though.
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So Harrison was a success story and therefore Lavin gets credit; Jordan a disaster so that is all on Jordan? And you call others who might have a difference of opinion than yours giant hypocrites?
 
Surprising thing for me is he got much less grief on the boards than did Harrison while they were here. Harrison labeled a "punk" more times than I can recall when in fact Jordan was actually a bad guy and for the most part escaped the same wrath.
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Jordan got less flak because his issues were always covered up. It was "rumored" that he wasn't at practice, or back in philly. But the company line was he was grieving or had a sick relative.

Harrison was treated differently. He was benched for rolling his eyes or yelling at a ref.
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It's pretty disgusting to somehow pin this on Lavin. I really don't care to repeat the things I've heard about some former players in our program that are held up by most of us as real contributors, but some of it rises to criminal. What's clear is that Jordan chose not to become a college student, and never gave up his questionable associations in Philly.

Harrison didn't get suspended for screaming at refs. The final straw was cursing out coaches loudly in ear shot of fans seated courtside while Lavin was away at his father's funeral. Do that at your job and see what happens. Lavin gave Harrison a summer to work on himself and come back with a different attitude. He did, and as such was a Lavin success story. Harrison did the work for sure, but nearly any D1 coach of a major program would have tossed Harrison immediately.

Anyone here who said he shouldn't have been recruited is a gigantic hypocrite. After seeing him here for 2 seasons, just about everyone wanted him back for a third, and projected him as the leader of the team who would have a breakout season.

Bottom line, Jordan is responsible for Jordan, and chose a path to self destruction. He's extremely fortunate he didn't kill his victim, or his prison time would be much more severe. Still plenty of time to turn his life around. It's up to him though.
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So Harrison was a success story and therefore Lavin gets credit; Jordan a disaster so that is all on Jordan? And you call others who might have a difference of opinion than yours giant hypocrites?
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Harrison credits Lavin, but you can't? Really foolish. Again.

Of course Jordan is all on Jordan, unless the SJU curriculum calls for armed robbery.

Does a cardiac surgeon not get credit for a successful operation? or do we blame him when the patient dies? Jordan had to study, respond, make himself a college student, and tell his local friends to stay home. He failed to do everything he should have.
 
You know, it's really sad when this doesn't actually surprise you. It's not even about wasted talent at this point..
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When I opened this thread a few minutes ago the first thing I thought was "Is anybody really surprised?"
 
Surprising thing for me is he got much less grief on the boards than did Harrison while they were here. Harrison labeled a "punk" more times than I can recall when in fact Jordan was actually a bad guy and for the most part escaped the same wrath.
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Jordan got less flak because his issues were always covered up. It was "rumored" that he wasn't at practice, or back in philly. But the company line was he was grieving or had a sick relative.

Harrison was treated differently. He was benched for rolling his eyes or yelling at a ref.
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It's pretty disgusting to somehow pin this on Lavin. I really don't care to repeat the things I've heard about some former players in our program that are held up by most of us as real contributors, but some of it rises to criminal. What's clear is that Jordan chose not to become a college student, and never gave up his questionable associations in Philly.

Harrison didn't get suspended for screaming at refs. The final straw was cursing out coaches loudly in ear shot of fans seated courtside while Lavin was away at his father's funeral. Do that at your job and see what happens. Lavin gave Harrison a summer to work on himself and come back with a different attitude. He did, and as such was a Lavin success story. Harrison did the work for sure, but nearly any D1 coach of a major program would have tossed Harrison immediately.

Anyone here who said he shouldn't have been recruited is a gigantic hypocrite. After seeing him here for 2 seasons, just about everyone wanted him back for a third, and projected him as the leader of the team who would have a breakout season.

Bottom line, Jordan is responsible for Jordan, and chose a path to self destruction. He's extremely fortunate he didn't kill his victim, or his prison time would be much more severe. Still plenty of time to turn his life around. It's up to him though.
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So Harrison was a success story and therefore Lavin gets credit; Jordan a disaster so that is all on Jordan? And you call others who might have a difference of opinion than yours giant hypocrites?
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Harrison credits Lavin, but you can't? Really foolish. Again.

Of course Jordan is all on Jordan, unless the SJU curriculum calls for armed robbery.

Does a cardiac surgeon not get credit for a successful operation? or do we blame him when the patient dies? Jordan had to study, respond, make himself a college student, and tell his local friends to stay home. He failed to do everything he should have.
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Beast I had no problem with Lavin going after Jordan(and CO, and ADR, and Thomas, and....). My problem is that they were all big question marks who he went after because he had no other viable options. And, at least in Jordan's case, he was forced to keep him here on Jordan's terms because he was Lavin's only shot of making the tourney and potentially saving Lavin's job. I do not blame Lavin for Rysheed's actions, however I do blame Lavin for the roster mess he created which resulted in the fiascos with all of the aforementioned players. On a somewhat separate note, many here were critical of the idea of bringing on Rawle because of perceived character concerns. The reason we were all able to even debate the issue is because Mullin and Co have recruited such a well-balanced and talented roster, that Rawle was not a "must get", as it seems many of Lavin's recruits were. And I will say one more thing, Rawle did not have 1/1,000 of the character concerns coming out of CTK as Rysheed did coming out of high school. The fact that we can be so cavalier about a kid like Rawle is telling about the current state of our program and the promising future under the new regime.
 
Surprising thing for me is he got much less grief on the boards than did Harrison while they were here. Harrison labeled a "punk" more times than I can recall when in fact Jordan was actually a bad guy and for the most part escaped the same wrath.
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Jordan got less flak because his issues were always covered up. It was "rumored" that he wasn't at practice, or back in philly. But the company line was he was grieving or had a sick relative.

Harrison was treated differently. He was benched for rolling his eyes or yelling at a ref.
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It's pretty disgusting to somehow pin this on Lavin. I really don't care to repeat the things I've heard about some former players in our program that are held up by most of us as real contributors, but some of it rises to criminal. What's clear is that Jordan chose not to become a college student, and never gave up his questionable associations in Philly.

Harrison didn't get suspended for screaming at refs. The final straw was cursing out coaches loudly in ear shot of fans seated courtside while Lavin was away at his father's funeral. Do that at your job and see what happens. Lavin gave Harrison a summer to work on himself and come back with a different attitude. He did, and as such was a Lavin success story. Harrison did the work for sure, but nearly any D1 coach of a major program would have tossed Harrison immediately.

Anyone here who said he shouldn't have been recruited is a gigantic hypocrite. After seeing him here for 2 seasons, just about everyone wanted him back for a third, and projected him as the leader of the team who would have a breakout season.

Bottom line, Jordan is responsible for Jordan, and chose a path to self destruction. He's extremely fortunate he didn't kill his victim, or his prison time would be much more severe. Still plenty of time to turn his life around. It's up to him though.
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So Harrison was a success story and therefore Lavin gets credit; Jordan a disaster so that is all on Jordan? And you call others who might have a difference of opinion than yours giant hypocrites?
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Harrison credits Lavin, but you can't? Really foolish. Again.

Of course Jordan is all on Jordan, unless the SJU curriculum calls for armed robbery.

Does a cardiac surgeon not get credit for a successful operation? or do we blame him when the patient dies? Jordan had to study, respond, make himself a college student, and tell his local friends to stay home. He failed to do everything he should have.
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Beast I had no problem with Lavin going after Jordan(and CO, and ADR, and Thomas, and....). My problem is that they were all big question marks who he went after because he had no other viable options. And, at least in Jordan's case, he was forced to keep him here on Jordan's terms because he was Lavin's only shot of making the tourney and potentially saving Lavin's job. I do not blame Lavin for Rysheed's actions, however I do blame Lavin for the roster mess he created which resulted in the fiascos with all of the aforementioned players. On a somewhat separate note, many here were critical of the idea of bringing on Rawle because of perceived character concerns. The reason we were all able to even debate the issue is because Mullin and Co have recruited such a well-balanced and talented roster, that Rawle was not a "must get", as it seems many of Lavin's recruits were. And I will say one more thing, Rawle did not have 1/1,000 of the character concerns coming out of CTK as Rysheed did coming out of high school. The fact that we can be so cavalier about a kid like Rawle is telling about the current state of our program and the promising future under the new regime.
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All reasonable points. I'd also mention though, that SJU wasn't/isn't at the top of virtually any prized recruit's list. You have to build a winning tradition for that to happen. Lavin recruited much higher than NR, and don't tell me it was because he wasn't discerning and NR was, because Norm went hard after Stephenson even with a criminal charge. If you have an elite program - Duke, UNC, Kansas, Kentucky, even VIllanova, or a respected school like Georgetown you pretty much have your pick or are near the top of any recruit's list. SJU is SJU - a once very good tradition that was a horrible program for almost 10 years.

You guys hate Lavin, but at least Mullin could say that both Sampson and Harkness were recently at SJU and were in the NBA. Lavin began by saying Artest is in the NBA - and played at SJU around 2000. Big difference.

Jordan had no criminal record when he was recruited, correct? Lots of respectable college players come from his background and assimilate just fine. Jordan is not NBA caliber, and in the end, has nothing to fall back on - nothing. His best hope IMO is to bang around Europe and make a decent living till the carousel stops spinning. Nothing wrong with that.

Everyone used to give Pete Rose all the credit in the world for not being so talented, but working and playing his tail off. Jimmy Connors was the same type of tenacious athlete. I've come to realize that those character traits are just as much talents as the ability to hit a ball 500 feet or a 48 inch vertical. Rysheed has physical , and little else.
 
Wow, i don't think anybody here is actually surprised he got into trouble within a year of leaving the school, but this is really bad. He deserves to rot in jail for this, though. Nothing but a common street thug when its all said and done.
 
Surprising thing for me is he got much less grief on the boards than did Harrison while they were here. Harrison labeled a "punk" more times than I can recall when in fact Jordan was actually a bad guy and for the most part escaped the same wrath.
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Jordan got less flak because his issues were always covered up. It was "rumored" that he wasn't at practice, or back in philly. But the company line was he was grieving or had a sick relative.

Harrison was treated differently. He was benched for rolling his eyes or yelling at a ref.
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It's pretty disgusting to somehow pin this on Lavin. I really don't care to repeat the things I've heard about some former players in our program that are held up by most of us as real contributors, but some of it rises to criminal. What's clear is that Jordan chose not to become a college student, and never gave up his questionable associations in Philly.

Harrison didn't get suspended for screaming at refs. The final straw was cursing out coaches loudly in ear shot of fans seated courtside while Lavin was away at his father's funeral. Do that at your job and see what happens. Lavin gave Harrison a summer to work on himself and come back with a different attitude. He did, and as such was a Lavin success story. Harrison did the work for sure, but nearly any D1 coach of a major program would have tossed Harrison immediately.

Anyone here who said he shouldn't have been recruited is a gigantic hypocrite. After seeing him here for 2 seasons, just about everyone wanted him back for a third, and projected him as the leader of the team who would have a breakout season.

Bottom line, Jordan is responsible for Jordan, and chose a path to self destruction. He's extremely fortunate he didn't kill his victim, or his prison time would be much more severe. Still plenty of time to turn his life around. It's up to him though.
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So Harrison was a success story and therefore Lavin gets credit; Jordan a disaster so that is all on Jordan? And you call others who might have a difference of opinion than yours giant hypocrites?
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Harrison credits Lavin, but you can't? Really foolish. Again.

Of course Jordan is all on Jordan, unless the SJU curriculum calls for armed robbery.

Does a cardiac surgeon not get credit for a successful operation? or do we blame him when the patient dies? Jordan had to study, respond, make himself a college student, and tell his local friends to stay home. He failed to do everything he should have.
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Beast I had no problem with Lavin going after Jordan(and CO, and ADR, and Thomas, and....). My problem is that they were all big question marks who he went after because he had no other viable options. And, at least in Jordan's case, he was forced to keep him here on Jordan's terms because he was Lavin's only shot of making the tourney and potentially saving Lavin's job. I do not blame Lavin for Rysheed's actions, however I do blame Lavin for the roster mess he created which resulted in the fiascos with all of the aforementioned players. On a somewhat separate note, many here were critical of the idea of bringing on Rawle because of perceived character concerns. The reason we were all able to even debate the issue is because Mullin and Co have recruited such a well-balanced and talented roster, that Rawle was not a "must get", as it seems many of Lavin's recruits were. And I will say one more thing, Rawle did not have 1/1,000 of the character concerns coming out of CTK as Rysheed did coming out of high school. The fact that we can be so cavalier about a kid like Rawle is telling about the current state of our program and the promising future under the new regime.
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All reasonable points. I'd also mention though, that SJU wasn't/isn't at the top of virtually any prized recruit's list. You have to build a winning tradition for that to happen. Lavin recruited much higher than NR, and don't tell me it was because he wasn't discerning and NR was, because Norm went hard after Stephenson even with a criminal charge. If you have an elite program - Duke, UNC, Kansas, Kentucky, even VIllanova, or a respected school like Georgetown you pretty much have your pick or are near the top of any recruit's list. SJU is SJU - a once very good tradition that was a horrible program for almost 10 years.

You guys hate Lavin, but at least Mullin could say that both Sampson and Harkness were recently at SJU and were in the NBA. Lavin began by saying Artest is in the NBA - and played at SJU around 2000. Big difference.

Jordan had no criminal record when he was recruited, correct? Lots of respectable college players come from his background and assimilate just fine. Jordan is not NBA caliber, and in the end, has nothing to fall back on - nothing. His best hope IMO is to bang around Europe and make a decent living till the carousel stops spinning. Nothing wrong with that.

Everyone used to give Pete Rose all the credit in the world for not being so talented, but working and playing his tail off. Jimmy Connors was the same type of tenacious athlete. I've come to realize that those character traits are just as much talents as the ability to hit a ball 500 feet or a 48 inch vertical. Rysheed has physical , and little else.
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Beast why even bring Norm in to this conversation? No one is saying that he recruited better than Lavin or was a better coach. As for hating Lavin, I have my much-expressed opinion of Lavin, but "hate" is certainly not something I feel towards him. As for Jordan, while I'm not any attorney if he did have a criminal record as a minor my guess is that it would be sealed. I have no clue one way or the other as far as a criminal past. Again, I was never against Lavin going after Jordan or any of the other questionable recruits. That is not the issue. The issue is that he had no other viable options when Lindsay hit the road, Jordan went AWOL, CO got suspended, the Thomas transcript issue surfaced, ADR was declared academically ineligible, etc.etc. Very very very poor roster assembling and management. Part of the reason why he is no longer here.
 
Chris Barca – ‏@CBarcaQC

Got my hands on Rysheed Jordan's court documents. He's facing 12 other charges beside attempted murder. Due back in court June 16. #SJUBB

Jordan blew a red light yesterday AM. Cops tried to pull him over, he sped off in his Jaguar. Caught him after brief car/foot chase. #SJUBB

Jordan threw a loaded gun (with the serial number scratched off) over a fence during the foot pursuit. Gun had five rounds in it. #SJUBB

In total, Jordan is facing six gun charges in addition to attempted murder and robbery. Being held on $750,000 bail. Goodness. #SJUBB
 
Chris Barca – ‏@CBarcaQC

Got my hands on Rysheed Jordan's court documents. He's facing 12 other charges beside attempted murder. Due back in court June 16. #SJUBB

Jordan blew a red light yesterday AM. Cops tried to pull him over, he sped off in his Jaguar. Caught him after brief car/foot chase. #SJUBB

Jordan threw a loaded gun (with the serial number scratched off) over a fence during the foot pursuit. Gun had five rounds in it. #SJUBB

In total, Jordan is facing six gun charges in addition to attempted murder and robbery. Being held on $750,000 bail. Goodness. #SJUBB
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Driving a Jaguar and pulling an armed robbery of sneakers? WTF?
 
Chris Barca – ‏@CBarcaQC

Got my hands on Rysheed Jordan's court documents. He's facing 12 other charges beside attempted murder. Due back in court June 16. #SJUBB

Jordan blew a red light yesterday AM. Cops tried to pull him over, he sped off in his Jaguar. Caught him after brief car/foot chase. #SJUBB

Jordan threw a loaded gun (with the serial number scratched off) over a fence during the foot pursuit. Gun had five rounds in it. #SJUBB

In total, Jordan is facing six gun charges in addition to attempted murder and robbery. Being held on $750,000 bail. Goodness. #SJUBB
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Driving a Jaguar and pulling an armed robbery of sneakers? WTF?
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The Benz was in the repair shop.
 
Chris Barca – ‏@CBarcaQC

Got my hands on Rysheed Jordan's court documents. He's facing 12 other charges beside attempted murder. Due back in court June 16. #SJUBB

Jordan blew a red light yesterday AM. Cops tried to pull him over, he sped off in his Jaguar. Caught him after brief car/foot chase. #SJUBB

Jordan threw a loaded gun (with the serial number scratched off) over a fence during the foot pursuit. Gun had five rounds in it. #SJUBB

In total, Jordan is facing six gun charges in addition to attempted murder and robbery. Being held on $750,000 bail. Goodness. #SJUBB
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This just gets crazier and crazier.
 
Chris Barca – ‏@CBarcaQC

Got my hands on Rysheed Jordan's court documents. He's facing 12 other charges beside attempted murder. Due back in court June 16. #SJUBB

Jordan blew a red light yesterday AM. Cops tried to pull him over, he sped off in his Jaguar. Caught him after brief car/foot chase. #SJUBB

Jordan threw a loaded gun (with the serial number scratched off) over a fence during the foot pursuit. Gun had five rounds in it. #SJUBB

In total, Jordan is facing six gun charges in addition to attempted murder and robbery. Being held on $750,000 bail. Goodness. #SJUBB
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Driving a Jaguar and pulling an armed robbery of sneakers? WTF?
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The Benz was in the repair shop.
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Makes perfect sense lol
 
Surprising thing for me is he got much less grief on the boards than did Harrison while they were here. Harrison labeled a "punk" more times than I can recall when in fact Jordan was actually a bad guy and for the most part escaped the same wrath.
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Jordan got less flak because his issues were always covered up. It was "rumored" that he wasn't at practice, or back in philly. But the company line was he was grieving or had a sick relative.

Harrison was treated differently. He was benched for rolling his eyes or yelling at a ref.
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It's pretty disgusting to somehow pin this on Lavin. I really don't care to repeat the things I've heard about some former players in our program that are held up by most of us as real contributors, but some of it rises to criminal. What's clear is that Jordan chose not to become a college student, and never gave up his questionable associations in Philly.

Harrison didn't get suspended for screaming at refs. The final straw was cursing out coaches loudly in ear shot of fans seated courtside while Lavin was away at his father's funeral. Do that at your job and see what happens. Lavin gave Harrison a summer to work on himself and come back with a different attitude. He did, and as such was a Lavin success story. Harrison did the work for sure, but nearly any D1 coach of a major program would have tossed Harrison immediately.

Anyone here who said he shouldn't have been recruited is a gigantic hypocrite. After seeing him here for 2 seasons, just about everyone wanted him back for a third, and projected him as the leader of the team who would have a breakout season.

Bottom line, Jordan is responsible for Jordan, and chose a path to self destruction. He's extremely fortunate he didn't kill his victim, or his prison time would be much more severe. Still plenty of time to turn his life around. It's up to him though.
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So Harrison was a success story and therefore Lavin gets credit; Jordan a disaster so that is all on Jordan? And you call others who might have a difference of opinion than yours giant hypocrites?
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Harrison credits Lavin, but you can't? Really foolish. Again.

Of course Jordan is all on Jordan, unless the SJU curriculum calls for armed robbery.

Does a cardiac surgeon not get credit for a successful operation? or do we blame him when the patient dies? Jordan had to study, respond, make himself a college student, and tell his local friends to stay home. He failed to do everything he should have.
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Beast I had no problem with Lavin going after Jordan(and CO, and ADR, and Thomas, and....). My problem is that they were all big question marks who he went after because he had no other viable options. And, at least in Jordan's case, he was forced to keep him here on Jordan's terms because he was Lavin's only shot of making the tourney and potentially saving Lavin's job. I do not blame Lavin for Rysheed's actions, however I do blame Lavin for the roster mess he created which resulted in the fiascos with all of the aforementioned players. On a somewhat separate note, many here were critical of the idea of bringing on Rawle because of perceived character concerns. The reason we were all able to even debate the issue is because Mullin and Co have recruited such a well-balanced and talented roster, that Rawle was not a "must get", as it seems many of Lavin's recruits were. And I will say one more thing, Rawle did not have 1/1,000 of the character concerns coming out of CTK as Rysheed did coming out of high school. The fact that we can be so cavalier about a kid like Rawle is telling about the current state of our program and the promising future under the new regime.
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All reasonable points. I'd also mention though, that SJU wasn't/isn't at the top of virtually any prized recruit's list. You have to build a winning tradition for that to happen. Lavin recruited much higher than NR, and don't tell me it was because he wasn't discerning and NR was, because Norm went hard after Stephenson even with a criminal charge. If you have an elite program - Duke, UNC, Kansas, Kentucky, even VIllanova, or a respected school like Georgetown you pretty much have your pick or are near the top of any recruit's list. SJU is SJU - a once very good tradition that was a horrible program for almost 10 years.

You guys hate Lavin, but at least Mullin could say that both Sampson and Harkness were recently at SJU and were in the NBA. Lavin began by saying Artest is in the NBA - and played at SJU around 2000. Big difference.

Jordan had no criminal record when he was recruited, correct? Lots of respectable college players come from his background and assimilate just fine. Jordan is not NBA caliber, and in the end, has nothing to fall back on - nothing. His best hope IMO is to bang around Europe and make a decent living till the carousel stops spinning. Nothing wrong with that.

Everyone used to give Pete Rose all the credit in the world for not being so talented, but working and playing his tail off. Jimmy Connors was the same type of tenacious athlete. I've come to realize that those character traits are just as much talents as the ability to hit a ball 500 feet or a 48 inch vertical. Rysheed has physical , and little else.
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Beast why even bring Norm in to this conversation? No one is saying that he recruited better than Lavin or was a better coach. As for hating Lavin, I have my much-expressed opinion of Lavin, but "hate" is certainly not something I feel towards him. As for Jordan, while I'm not any attorney if he did have a criminal record as a minor my guess is that it would be sealed. I have no clue one way or the other as far as a criminal past. Again, I was never against Lavin going after Jordan or any of the other questionable recruits. That is not the issue. The issue is that he had no other viable options when Lindsay hit the road, Jordan went AWOL, CO got suspended, the Thomas transcript issue surfaced, ADR was declared academically ineligible, etc.etc. Very very very poor roster assembling and management. Part of the reason why he is no longer here.
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Monte:
I like your choice of words -
"a very very very poor roster assembling and management".
Makes what CM & Co have done & are doing sterling, very very very fine (not perfect of course) roster assembling and management.
Great contrast between the past regime and the present.
 
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