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[quote="Eric" post=295295]Well.....all that good fun positive talk couldn't last too long here[/quote]
It's one thing to blindly hope and another to look at all the evidence thus far in the Mullin years. All of us critics truly hope he wins 25 games this year, but it's just so hard to expect that when we have yet to see a .500 team going into year 4. I do love the pieces of Dixon and LJ. But it's not all talent...it takes a good coach plus talent to truly be a dominant team. I hope I'm eating a huge crow by season's end. I'm just a big believer in looking to supporting evidence and there's none to indicate Mullin will take us from a bad team 3 years straight to a great dominant team in year 4 overnight. That's not to say we won't be great next year, maybe we will and obviously I hope we will, but it's hard to believe given what we've seen.
It's one thing to blindly hope and another to look at all the evidence thus far in the Mullin years. All of us critics truly hope he wins 25 games this year, but it's just so hard to expect that when we have yet to see a .500 team going into year 4. I do love the pieces of Dixon and LJ. But it's not all talent...it takes a good coach plus talent to truly be a dominant team. I hope I'm eating a huge crow by season's end. I'm just a big believer in looking to supporting evidence and there's none to indicate Mullin will take us from a bad team 3 years straight to a great dominant team in year 4 overnight. That's not to say we won't be great next year, maybe we will and obviously I hope we will, but it's hard to believe given what we've seen.
[quote="Chicago Days" post=295291][quote="mjmaherjr" post=295290][quote="Paultzman" post=295285][quote="mjmaherjr" post=295284][quote="Paultzman" post=295247]Two things that immediately jump out at St. John's? 1. Justin Simon is noticeably better shooting the ball 2. Marvin Clark is considerably leaner
#SJUBB
South Carolina transfer Sedee Keita shining here at St. John's with his ability to switch defensively. HAS to stay out of foul trouble. Should be an 8 and 8 guy. #SJUBB[/quote] i might get pissed over recruiting next year but the more and more I think about it if Heron plays I think we potentially could end up just wrecking teans[/quote]
Provided the chefs can prepare the meal, ingredients there with Heron for sure.[/quote] that’s the great thing about this year. All the ingredients are there. If they aren’t chefs this year than they will never be chefs but even pessimistic me thinks we are gonna wreck people. My 22 win prediction was. My pessimist side. I’m more in line with Olv72 and 24 wins #noexcuses[/quote]
Is that 24 wins before the BET?
That’s my ‘base case’ as well.[/quote] yes. But for the record while I’m pretty good with predicting Section9 is better
#SJUBB
South Carolina transfer Sedee Keita shining here at St. John's with his ability to switch defensively. HAS to stay out of foul trouble. Should be an 8 and 8 guy. #SJUBB[/quote] i might get pissed over recruiting next year but the more and more I think about it if Heron plays I think we potentially could end up just wrecking teans[/quote]
Provided the chefs can prepare the meal, ingredients there with Heron for sure.[/quote] that’s the great thing about this year. All the ingredients are there. If they aren’t chefs this year than they will never be chefs but even pessimistic me thinks we are gonna wreck people. My 22 win prediction was. My pessimist side. I’m more in line with Olv72 and 24 wins #noexcuses[/quote]
Is that 24 wins before the BET?
That’s my ‘base case’ as well.[/quote] yes. But for the record while I’m pretty good with predicting Section9 is better
Let's get MH eligible and go from there. Stating the obvious, but that is the key to our season. I have every confidence in Chris & staff to get the most out of them (wish I had the same confidence on recruiting) and with MH we will be super talented and super deep.
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=295296][quote="Eric" post=295295]Well.....all that good fun positive talk couldn't last too long here[/quote]
It's one thing to blindly hope and another to look at all the evidence thus far in the Mullin years. All of us critics truly hope he wins 25 games this year, but it's just so hard to expect that when we have yet to see a .500 team going into year 4. I do love the pieces of Dixon and LJ. But it's not all talent...it takes a good coach plus talent to truly be a dominant team. I hope I'm eating a huge crow by season's end. I'm just a big believer in looking to supporting evidence and there's none to indicate Mullin will take us from a bad team 3 years straight to a great dominant team in year 4 overnight. That's not to say we won't be great next year, maybe we will and obviously I hope we will, but it's hard to believe given what we've seen.[/quote]
I'm not blindly hoping. We have nice talent. We are going to be matchup problems for a lot of teams we play. We have depth with players who are actually useful this year. We hung in quite a bit with limited teams against better competition. These guys play hard for mullin. So now with depth and more talent I with my eyes wide open expect a seriously fun and exciting team succeed this year. Im sure you want us to win and its difficult after all these years but its ok to be excited about this team this year. Just don't think about recruiting for a little while lol
It's one thing to blindly hope and another to look at all the evidence thus far in the Mullin years. All of us critics truly hope he wins 25 games this year, but it's just so hard to expect that when we have yet to see a .500 team going into year 4. I do love the pieces of Dixon and LJ. But it's not all talent...it takes a good coach plus talent to truly be a dominant team. I hope I'm eating a huge crow by season's end. I'm just a big believer in looking to supporting evidence and there's none to indicate Mullin will take us from a bad team 3 years straight to a great dominant team in year 4 overnight. That's not to say we won't be great next year, maybe we will and obviously I hope we will, but it's hard to believe given what we've seen.[/quote]
I'm not blindly hoping. We have nice talent. We are going to be matchup problems for a lot of teams we play. We have depth with players who are actually useful this year. We hung in quite a bit with limited teams against better competition. These guys play hard for mullin. So now with depth and more talent I with my eyes wide open expect a seriously fun and exciting team succeed this year. Im sure you want us to win and its difficult after all these years but its ok to be excited about this team this year. Just don't think about recruiting for a little while lol
[quote="Eric" post=295300][quote="Mike Zaun" post=295296][quote="Eric" post=295295]Well.....all that good fun positive talk couldn't last too long here[/quote]
It's one thing to blindly hope and another to look at all the evidence thus far in the Mullin years. All of us critics truly hope he wins 25 games this year, but it's just so hard to expect that when we have yet to see a .500 team going into year 4. I do love the pieces of Dixon and LJ. But it's not all talent...it takes a good coach plus talent to truly be a dominant team. I hope I'm eating a huge crow by season's end. I'm just a big believer in looking to supporting evidence and there's none to indicate Mullin will take us from a bad team 3 years straight to a great dominant team in year 4 overnight. That's not to say we won't be great next year, maybe we will and obviously I hope we will, but it's hard to believe given what we've seen.[/quote]
I'm not blindly hoping. We have nice talent. We are going to be matchup problems for a lot of teams we play. We have depth with players who are actually useful this year. We hung in quite a bit with limited teams against better competition. These guys play hard for mullin. So now with depth and more talent I with my eyes wide open expect a seriously fun and exciting team succeed this year. Im sure you want us to win and its difficult after all these years but its ok to be excited about this team this year. Just don't think about recruiting for a little while lol[/quote]
Ain’t that the truth, Eric. My view (and hope) is win a ton of games and with a bit of luck, maybe a few top recruits will hop on the train.
And Mike Zaun, this is ‘new’ for us in the Mullin era. This will be the first time, he’ll coach a fully-loaded team with a cluster of high-octane guards/wings, 1 true big guy, and some bench depth.
I think it’s realistic to be positive about the upcoming season.
Let’s win and win big.
It's one thing to blindly hope and another to look at all the evidence thus far in the Mullin years. All of us critics truly hope he wins 25 games this year, but it's just so hard to expect that when we have yet to see a .500 team going into year 4. I do love the pieces of Dixon and LJ. But it's not all talent...it takes a good coach plus talent to truly be a dominant team. I hope I'm eating a huge crow by season's end. I'm just a big believer in looking to supporting evidence and there's none to indicate Mullin will take us from a bad team 3 years straight to a great dominant team in year 4 overnight. That's not to say we won't be great next year, maybe we will and obviously I hope we will, but it's hard to believe given what we've seen.[/quote]
I'm not blindly hoping. We have nice talent. We are going to be matchup problems for a lot of teams we play. We have depth with players who are actually useful this year. We hung in quite a bit with limited teams against better competition. These guys play hard for mullin. So now with depth and more talent I with my eyes wide open expect a seriously fun and exciting team succeed this year. Im sure you want us to win and its difficult after all these years but its ok to be excited about this team this year. Just don't think about recruiting for a little while lol[/quote]
Ain’t that the truth, Eric. My view (and hope) is win a ton of games and with a bit of luck, maybe a few top recruits will hop on the train.
And Mike Zaun, this is ‘new’ for us in the Mullin era. This will be the first time, he’ll coach a fully-loaded team with a cluster of high-octane guards/wings, 1 true big guy, and some bench depth.
I think it’s realistic to be positive about the upcoming season.
Let’s win and win big.
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[quote="mjmaherjr" post=295290][quote="Paultzman" post=295285][quote="mjmaherjr" post=295284][quote="Paultzman" post=295247]Two things that immediately jump out at St. John's? 1. Justin Simon is noticeably better shooting the ball 2. Marvin Clark is considerably leaner
#SJUBB
South Carolina transfer Sedee Keita shining here at St. John's with his ability to switch defensively. HAS to stay out of foul trouble. Should be an 8 and 8 guy. #SJUBB[/quote] i might get pissed over recruiting next year but the more and more I think about it if Heron plays I think we potentially could end up just wrecking teans[/quote]
Provided the chefs can prepare the meal, ingredients there with Heron for sure.[/quote] that’s the great thing about this year. All the ingredients are there. If they aren’t chefs this year than they will never be chefs but even pessimistic me thinks we are gonna wreck people. My 22 win prediction was. My pessimist side. I’m more in line with Olv72 and 24 wins #noexcuses[/quote]
My prediction of a jump from 16 to 24 wins goes with predicting that Heron is eligible, which I think happens. Making these predictions is like picking Justify to win the Derby before his first race( he was bet down to 7-1 in the future book the weekend he debuted as I recall). Much much easier is to predict that this thread will be hijacked and turn negative. Looks like that has already happened.
#SJUBB
South Carolina transfer Sedee Keita shining here at St. John's with his ability to switch defensively. HAS to stay out of foul trouble. Should be an 8 and 8 guy. #SJUBB[/quote] i might get pissed over recruiting next year but the more and more I think about it if Heron plays I think we potentially could end up just wrecking teans[/quote]
Provided the chefs can prepare the meal, ingredients there with Heron for sure.[/quote] that’s the great thing about this year. All the ingredients are there. If they aren’t chefs this year than they will never be chefs but even pessimistic me thinks we are gonna wreck people. My 22 win prediction was. My pessimist side. I’m more in line with Olv72 and 24 wins #noexcuses[/quote]
My prediction of a jump from 16 to 24 wins goes with predicting that Heron is eligible, which I think happens. Making these predictions is like picking Justify to win the Derby before his first race( he was bet down to 7-1 in the future book the weekend he debuted as I recall). Much much easier is to predict that this thread will be hijacked and turn negative. Looks like that has already happened.
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Very positive tweets. The improvement of Keita after sitting a year is critical. Let's remember he will have very little competition in practice. Two freshmen, Josh Roberts and Marcellus Earlington, will not, in anyone's wildest imagination, compare to actual competition. This worries me.
[quote="Class of 72" post=295306]Very positive tweets. The improvement of Keita after sitting a year is critical. Let's remember he will have very little competition in practice. Two freshmen, Josh Roberts and Marcellus Earlington, will not, in anyone's wildest imagination, compare to actual competition. This worries me.[/quote]
maybe we discovered what Richmond's primary role is...
don't know if he can run, but he's big enough to bang under the glass..
maybe we discovered what Richmond's primary role is...
don't know if he can run, but he's big enough to bang under the glass..
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It's just kind of like Kate Upton coming up to you at the beach and asking if you want to go have fun somewhere. What's the first thing you do? You look around like "wtf is this a trap?". It's never that easy and that's why I can't totally be sold yet. When you root for so many bad teams that lure you back in only to rip your heart out time and time again, you have your reservations about allowing yourself to be fooled again. If Mullin won 19-20 games last year even if he narrowly missed the tourney, it would be much more realistic IMO to expect 24 or 25+ wins this coming season, but he has yet to even break even at .500 and we have been absolutely dreadful in conference play. If we win 24+ games, I might even pay to rent one of those big wooden cutouts where you put your face in and let you guys throw tomatoes at me. I'd be smiling the entire time too.
[quote="RedStormNC" post=295307][quote="Class of 72" post=295306]Very positive tweets. The improvement of Keita after sitting a year is critical. Let's remember he will have very little competition in practice. Two freshmen, Josh Roberts and Marcellus Earlington, will not, in anyone's wildest imagination, compare to actual competition. This worries me.[/quote]
maybe we discovered what Richmond's primary role is...
don't know if he can run, but he's big enough to bang under the glass..[/quote]
Maybe Earlington can provide som opposition bulk in practice?
And Clark?
maybe we discovered what Richmond's primary role is...
don't know if he can run, but he's big enough to bang under the glass..[/quote]
Maybe Earlington can provide som opposition bulk in practice?
And Clark?
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MZ wrote: ". If we win 24+ games, I might even pay to rent one of those big wooden cutouts where you put your face in and let you guys throw tomatoes at me. I'd be smiling the entire time too."
If you lower your prediction to 21 games total I will buy the cutout and the tomatoes.
If you lower your prediction to 21 games total I will buy the cutout and the tomatoes.
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[quote="Chicago Days" post=295310][quote="RedStormNC" post=295307][quote="Class of 72" post=295306]Very positive tweets. The improvement of Keita after sitting a year is critical. Let's remember he will have very little competition in practice. Two freshmen, Josh Roberts and Marcellus Earlington, will not, in anyone's wildest imagination, compare to actual competition. This worries me.[/quote]
maybe we discovered what Richmond's primary role is...
don't know if he can run, but he's big enough to bang under the glass..[/quote]
Maybe Earlington can provide som opposition bulk in practice?
And Clark?[/quote]
My guess is that Keita has been ripping Josh Roberts a new one. At least he will have mucho confidence going into games.
maybe we discovered what Richmond's primary role is...
don't know if he can run, but he's big enough to bang under the glass..[/quote]
Maybe Earlington can provide som opposition bulk in practice?
And Clark?[/quote]
My guess is that Keita has been ripping Josh Roberts a new one. At least he will have mucho confidence going into games.
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=295308]It's just kind of like Kate Upton coming up to you at the beach and asking if you want to go have fun somewhere. What's the first thing you do? You look around like "wtf is this a trap?". It's never that easy and that's why I can't totally be sold yet. When you root for so many bad teams that lure you back in only to rip your heart out time and time again, you have your reservations about allowing yourself to be fooled again. If Mullin won 19-20 games last year even if he narrowly missed the tourney, it would be much more realistic IMO to expect 24 or 25+ wins this coming season, but he has yet to even break even at .500 and we have been absolutely dreadful in conference play. If we win 24+ games, I might even pay to rent one of those big wooden cutouts where you put your face in and let you guys throw tomatoes at me. I'd be smiling the entire time too.[/quote]
Off the top, there were at least 6 BE games last year that we were in ituntil the end, with OT in a ‘few’. Both G*Town and Hall games, Xavier game, Providence away, maybe Creighton?
I think that the team will be tough to beat in 2018-19, because we finally have the players, plus ‘some’ depth.
Right, it’s not perfect.
Little depth underneath, but otherwise, man it is tough to not be excited about the upcoming season.
All I’m sayin’.
Off the top, there were at least 6 BE games last year that we were in ituntil the end, with OT in a ‘few’. Both G*Town and Hall games, Xavier game, Providence away, maybe Creighton?
I think that the team will be tough to beat in 2018-19, because we finally have the players, plus ‘some’ depth.
Right, it’s not perfect.
Little depth underneath, but otherwise, man it is tough to not be excited about the upcoming season.
All I’m sayin’.
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[quote="isham" post=295312]Jarvis couldn't fuck it up but Mullin will find a way.[/quote]
That's very unfair to Coach Mullin! The blame should go to the coach designing the plays in practice and making in-game adjustments. ..........GREG ST. JEAN!
That's very unfair to Coach Mullin! The blame should go to the coach designing the plays in practice and making in-game adjustments. ..........GREG ST. JEAN!
[quote="Class of 72" post=295317][quote="isham" post=295312]Jarvis couldn't fuck it up but Mullin will find a way.[/quote]
That's very unfair to Coach Mullin! The blame should go to the coach designing the plays in practice and making in-game adjustments. ..........GREG ST. JEAN![/quote]
Lol!
That's very unfair to Coach Mullin! The blame should go to the coach designing the plays in practice and making in-game adjustments. ..........GREG ST. JEAN![/quote]
Lol!