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[quote="Room112" post=287338]Personally I would hope we don't red shirt Trimble and that he doesn't transfer, although I'd understand if he did. One thing we learned last year is how important depth is. Injuries happen. We're going to need Trimble. Plus I'm looking forward to seeing his improvement.[/quote]
Hopefully, they can get to Trimble and the kid understands that he needs to be in shape to play at this level. He was not in the best shape last year. Sometimes this happens with young guys. I want him to succeed and it would be nice to see a kid develop in the St. John's "program". Maybe he can be a 4 year player.
 
Speculating about Players’s time on the Court for next season , is like the ultimate fantasy .. Trimble , a case in point . One thing that seems apparent about this Coaching staff is being upfront with current and former players . Likely Ellison was told he might not get the same minutes this past season and , he opted to transfer . Mussini had already been relegated to part time player and designated shooter , during his soph year . Plus , he knew his future was looming in the Pro Italin League . Neither of them or the Coaching staff could have forseen the Lovett defection . Owens and Yakwe wanted more of a featured role or, just more playing time . They werent given that assurance and left . Good Luck . Trimble , on the other hand , has completed his freshman studies and the time to opt for transfer is winding down. If he was concerned or, had been told by Mullin to worry about his role or , playing time , he likely would have transferred already . One thing , some here , don’t seem to get is the communication between Mullin and his Players and Players to be . It would appear Chris has the ear of his guys and seems he shoots square with them . Even, to the point , it might not be the answer they want, i.e. Owens for example . It’s my opinion , Trimble has been communicated with and he may feel his place, next season and beyond is good for him . There was certainly no reluctance to play him last year and he performed the long range shot making decently . The composition of next Year’s team looks to be in the mold of TMC of the Warriors in Mitch and Chris’s hey day . And , despite the early off season negativity towards Mullin and Staff , there can be little criticism of worth, about the cadre of players brought in this summer . Some turn around , for sure . The Roster appears very strong , barring unforseen circumstances or injuries . And , how quickly the bloggers and Writers, Zach, Rothstein, etc have jumped on the Redmen train .
 
[quote="Eric" post=287323][quote="fuchsia" post=287317][quote="Eric" post=287177]Loving how this off season has progressed. I love the idea of this team and hope they all gel and I wont say where I think we will be ranked as the potential for me is extremely high.

Not sure where to ask this question so I will just throw it in here. Any of our basketball gurus who follow high school ball know anything about a sophomore named Trayvon alexander? scheduled for 2020 graduation plays for friends academy. I am presently treating his grandfather and we were talking college hoops and he told me about him. I watched his mix tape which was very impressive. He is short but I'm sure will grow some more.[/quote]

Please be careful of HIPAA regs. My wife treated family of STJ player and I do not disclose such info.[/quote]

All I said was I was presently treating him. Didnt say a thing about anything medical in regards to hippa being violated. It could have been We were out for ice cream and I paid. Don't think any hippa laws were violated.for treating him for ice cream.

But in all seriousness. He is aware of what I posted and how I posted it and gave me approval to do so. And so as long as a patient gives their approval no hippa laws are violated. Plus I gave no info about anything medically about him which serves no purpose anyway on here.

But I appreciate the heads up and concern[/quote]

I deal with HIPAA (not hippa) regs every day and any one with access to psi must be acutely aware of guarding . My clients over time include Hazelden/Betty Ford , major hospitals, state behavioral health, etc. Even the inference that a person is treated in a facility can cause enormous fines, civil or criminal penalties, and termination by an employer. I think you know this but a person's verbal okay is not enough to protect you. You'd need a release in writing, and that may not even protect you against the law
 
This I hope is My last post about this on the roster thread as I apologize it has become not about the roster. It was to find out if anyone knows about a kid playing high school basketball.

Thanks for your input beast. Yea as long as you have patient approval it’s ok to talk about a patients medical condition. Of which I did not at all here. Of which he is aware of my wording too. But I still wanted him to know what I was writing to be as careful with hipaa laws. I take that very seriously and do guard against that all the time. I know for a fact where I work you need a written release for pictures and videos to use of them. Also I’m assuming you meant phi instead of psi as you corrected my extra p in hippa instead of hipaa. :)
It’s all good as I think fuscia and beast bringing this up are looking out for me. And I do appreciate it. But I believe I took the proper steps even In The vagueness of my wording.

Back to the roster. I’m very happy with how our roster has shaped up.
 
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[quote="Eric" post=287397]This I hope is My last post about this on the roster thread as I apologize it has become not about the roster. It was to find out if anyone knows about a kid playing high school basketball.

Thanks for your input beast. Yea as long as you have patient approval it’s ok to talk about a patients medical condition. Of which I did not at all here. Of which he is aware of my wording too. But I still wanted him to know what I was writing to be as careful with hipaa laws. I take that very seriously and do guard against that all the time. I know for a fact where I work you need a written release for pictures and videos to use of them. Also I’m assuming you meant phi instead of psi as you corrected my extra p in hippa instead of hipaa. :)
It’s all good as I think fuscia and beast bringing this up are looking out for me. And I do appreciate it. But I believe I took the proper steps even In The vagueness of my wording.

Back to the roster. I’m very happy with how our roster has shaped up.[/quote]

Right now Eric thinking " I wish I just bought freaking ice cream for every poster on redmen.com to change the subject :) " Btw I like my Vanilla Carvel Sundaes with Caramel and Colored Sprinkles on top :)
 
[quote="mjmaherjr" post=287400][quote="Eric" post=287397]This I hope is My last post about this on the roster thread as I apologize it has become not about the roster. It was to find out if anyone knows about a kid playing high school basketball.

Thanks for your input beast. Yea as long as you have patient approval it’s ok to talk about a patients medical condition. Of which I did not at all here. Of which he is aware of my wording too. But I still wanted him to know what I was writing to be as careful with hipaa laws. I take that very seriously and do guard against that all the time. I know for a fact where I work you need a written release for pictures and videos to use of them. Also I’m assuming you meant phi instead of psi as you corrected my extra p in hippa instead of hipaa. :)
It’s all good as I think fuscia and beast bringing this up are looking out for me. And I do appreciate it. But I believe I took the proper steps even In The vagueness of my wording.

Back to the roster. I’m very happy with how our roster has shaped up.[/quote]

Right now Eric thinking " I wish I just bought freaking ice cream for every poster on redmen.com to change the subject :) " Btw I like my Vanilla Carvel Sundaes with Caramel and Colored Sprinkles on top :)[/quote]

Funny, I never pegged you as vanilla type of guy.B) :)
 
IF Heron plays in 2018-19, the roster is loaded—plain and simple—with guard/wing talent and depth not seen on most teams not named KY, Duke, UNC, Kansas, et al.
IMO, this talent and depth—again, unmatched by most college teams—will be very difficult to beat, and offsets to some degree, our infamous and oft-stated lack of proven ‘big’ depth.
It’s obvious that CM envisions and prefers a different style of play that many are used to and which is more common in college hoops.
The difference next season is that he now has the horses to not just ‘play’ the run ‘n gun game, but to probably and hopefully ‘win’ with it.
Hopefully hands down.
 
A lot of excitement is still flowing from last week and deservedly so. I am not trying to throw water on it, but there is a sobering perspective to consider.

With Heron.....next year could be the breakthrough we have all been desperately rooting for. It could be really special.

Without Heron.......we have a decent roster with a gaping hole. Prior to securing MH many of us (definitely me) were underwhelmed.

I am just suggesting we should temper the extraordinary predictions until the waiver decision is cast.
 
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JohnnyFan wrote: A lot of excitement is still flowing from last week and deservedly so. I am not trying to throw water on it, but there is a sobering perspective to consider.

With Heron.....next year could be the breakthrough we have all been desperately rooting for. It could be really special.

Without Heron.......we have a decent roster with a gaping hole. Prior to securing MH many of us (definitely me) were underwhelmed.

I am just suggesting we should temper the extraordinary predictions until the waiver decision is cast.

JF, I agree we need to hold off on predictions of challenging for BE title, top 25 etc. until MH is declared eligible to play in 2018-2019. However, even assuming he can't play this year, with Shamorie in the fold and assuming we stay relatively injury free, there is no reason we can't be in top half of BE and have an excellent chance to dance. So I am enthusiastic about next year either way.
 
Something I haven't really seen discussed as part of the fallout from Heron is how it affects 2019 recruiting. What I mean by that is we only have 1 official senior, which is Clark for this season. We all expect Ponds to leave and other things to shake out, but does this mean we only have 1 scholarship to hand out in the 2019 early recruiting? How is that going to impact us because I know we have a few targets we were looking to secure. Waiting until after the season might be too late.
 
[quote="Room112" post=287522]Something I haven't really seen discussed as part of the fallout from Heron is how it affects 2019 recruiting. What I mean by that is we only have 1 official senior, which is Clark for this season. We all expect Ponds to leave and other things to shake out, but does this mean we only have 1 scholarship to hand out in the 2019 early recruiting? How is that going to impact us because I know we have a few targets we were looking to secure. Waiting until after the season might be too late.[/quote]
In my opinion they will aggressively pursue several prime targets early. As you noted, waiting until end of season makes no sense. They can sort the numbers out later. I could see them adding 3 players & having room with Clarke, Ponds & a player facing a logjam at his position or Heron if eligible this year. Nature of game today.
 
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Paultzman wrote: Room112 wrote: Something I haven't really seen discussed as part of the fallout from Heron is how it affects 2019 recruiting. What I mean by that is we only have 1 official senior, which is Clark for this season. We all expect Ponds to leave and other things to shake out, but does this mean we only have 1 scholarship to hand out in the 2019 early recruiting? How is that going to impact us because I know we have a few targets we were looking to secure. Waiting until after the season might be too late.
In my opinion they will aggressively pursue several prime targets early. As you noted, waiting until end of season makes no sense. They can sort the numbers out later. I could see them adding 3 players & having room with Clarke, Ponds & a player facing a logjam at his position moving on for example. Nature of game today.

Probably also safe to assume that if MH is cleared to play immediately (and we should know answer to that in time for fall recruiting), he will leave for NBA after next year same as Ponds opening up another spot.
 
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Paultzman Wrote: In my opinion they will aggressively pursue several prime targets early. As you noted, waiting until end of season makes no sense. They can sort the numbers out later. I could see them adding 3 players & having room with Clarke, Ponds & a player facing a logjam at his position moving on for example. Nature of game today.
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I am curious in your opinion who the prime targets are? Also would be curious what is our order of preference for those targets and lastly how strong are our chances with any of these prime targets?

The name I have heard the most often connected to SJU is Kofi Cockburn and he seems like he is interested in us. The two New Jersey kids Brian Antoine and Scottie Lewis seem to be desired by us, but I hear they may likely go elsewhere. I am unclear of our status with others. Jalen Gaffney, Precious Achiuwa, Aidan Iglehorn etc.are names I hear often. Maybe you can clarify who the prime targets actually are and what are chances of getting any of them to come here.
 
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[quote="NCJohnnie" post=287528]Paultzman wrote: Room112 wrote: Something I haven't really seen discussed as part of the fallout from Heron is how it affects 2019 recruiting. What I mean by that is we only have 1 official senior, which is Clark for this season. We all expect Ponds to leave and other things to shake out, but does this mean we only have 1 scholarship to hand out in the 2019 early recruiting? How is that going to impact us because I know we have a few targets we were looking to secure. Waiting until after the season might be too late.
In my opinion they will aggressively pursue several prime targets early. As you noted, waiting until end of season makes no sense. They can sort the numbers out later. I could see them adding 3 players & having room with Clarke, Ponds & a player facing a logjam at his position moving on for example. Nature of game today.

Probably also safe to assume that if MH is cleared to play immediately (and we should know answer to that in time for fall recruiting), he will leave for NBA after next year same as Ponds opening up another spot.[/quote]

I get what you guys are saying, but I believe this makes a serious complication with recruiting for next year. Not only do we have only one scholarship available until say the end of next March when Ponds/Heron officially say they're leaving, but on the outside looking in to potential recruits it looks like we have a log jam at most positions. That won't sort itself out until after the season. Could hurt recrutiing early.
 
I am curious in your opinion who the prime targets are? Also would be curious what is our order of preference for those targets and lastly how strong are our chances with any of these prime targets?

The name I have heard the most often connected to SJU is Kofi Cockburn and he seems like he is interested in us. The two New Jersey kids Brian Antoine and Scottie Lewis seem to be desired by us, but I hear they may likely go elsewhere. I am unclear of our status with others. Jalen Gaffney, Precious Achiuwa, Aidan Iglehorn etc.are names I hear often. Maybe you can clarify who the prime targets actually are and what are chances of getting any of them to come here.[/quote]

Jalen Gaffney is ranked #235.
That sounds doable.

https://247sports.com/Player/Jalen-Gaffney-91815
 
[quote="ghostzapper" post=287530]Paultzman Wrote: In my opinion they will aggressively pursue several prime targets early. As you noted, waiting until end of season makes no sense. They can sort the numbers out later. I could see them adding 3 players & having room with Clarke, Ponds & a player facing a logjam at his position moving on for example. Nature of game today.
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I am curious in your opinion who the prime targets are? Also would be curious what is our order of preference for those targets and lastly how strong are our chances with any of these prime targets?

The name I have heard the most often connected to SJU is Kofi Cockburn and he seems like he is interested in us. The two New Jersey kids Brian Antoine and Scottie Lewis seem to be desired by us, but I hear they may likely go elsewhere. I am unclear of our status with others. Jalen Gaffney, Precious Achiuwa, Aidan Iglehorn etc.are names I hear often. Maybe you can clarify who the prime targets actually are and what are chances of getting any of them to come here.[/quote]
Just my opinion, but they have to give it a go with Aidan & Kofi re bigs. Staff has spent a lot of time on them, as competitive as the hunt may be. For guards, they have a great relationship with Lewis & Gaffney and could get official visits on both, but Lewis will be a tough get. Have heard very little about Precious A pursuit and assume a program like Kansas will get him. A lesser talent like Chris Ledlum for SF spot seems more practical.
 
I am all for continuing the pursuit of Kofi. However, I sincerely hope we are looking many, many, many more bigs.
 
[quote="JohnnyFan" post=287536]I am all for continuing the pursuit of Kofi. However, I sincerely hope we are looking many, many, many more bigs.[/quote]
With 3 spots possible, how many do you want?
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=287539][quote="JohnnyFan" post=287536]I am all for continuing the pursuit of Kofi. However, I sincerely hope we are looking many, many, many more bigs.[/quote]
With about 3 spots possible, how many do you want?[/quote]
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=287539][quote="JohnnyFan" post=287536]I am all for continuing the pursuit of Kofi. However, I sincerely hope we are looking many, many, many more bigs.[/quote]
With 3 spots possible, how many do you want?[/quote]

At least one.
 
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