Roster Turnover

[SJU85]

Amaseinyourface wrote:

lawmanfan post=429889 wrote: I don't know about the rest of you, but I love having a guy named "guinness" and a guy named "draft" going back and forth on the same thread.

It really brings things to a head when you're talking about how stout our fan base is.  They have definitely tapped into something.

I'll show myself out - you don't have to pint me in the right direction. 

Really really pour attempt

And some posters need to stop "foaming" from the mouth lol. 

The posts should really start to get interesting now that it's happy hour

I might be a little late to the party but I always enjoy some lite humor.

 

[SJU14]

Isaih Moore just wrote on IG that he’s reopening his recruitment after cutting it down to Cincy and Florida a few days ago lol

 

[MJDinkins]

Isaih Moore just wrote on IG that he’s reopening his recruitment after cutting it down to Cincy and Florida a few days ago lol

He probably didn't like what those two schools had to say in regards to playing time or neither school actually gave him a hard (scholarship) offer.  I could be wrong, but that's what I sense. 

 

[L J S A]

Isaih Moore just wrote on IG that he’s reopening his recruitment after cutting it down to Cincy and Florida a few days ago lol

He probably didn't like what those two schools had to say in regards to playing time or neither school actually gave him a hard (scholarship) offer.  I could be wrong, but that's what I sense. 

Hopefully the former, because the latter is embarrassing.

 

[Section3]

I do agree that most of our transfers are reasonably easy to replace.  The exceptions are........

Moore -Unique talent, but had to go.  I can live with him leaving.

Earlington  -Definitely a loss and I hate that we don't have him for his senior year.  I thought he might transfer last year and I do understand him wanting more playing time.

Williams  -This is the one that makes me wonder.  Considering who he is on and off the court, we have to retain this type of kid.  I have a theory why he left and I do see CMA as responsible. 

So....I get that it is a crazy transfer year, but we lost one too many.  Greg was the red line for me.  I love CMA and have confidence we will remain competitive, but I also hope this was a learning lesson.  

You are right.  Those are the only transfers people should be rightfully upset about.  However 2 weren't CMA kids so that should temper things IMO.  I could toss in Cole only because it was a CMA transfer where he clearly struck out on the two JUCO's.

What's your theory on Williams?

I think personally at the end of games who was on the floor.  It was Wusu.  Was it a mix of Greg being hurt and CMA want to put his guy in Wusu into the fire and see how he handled it?  I think Greg saw the writing on the wall that freshman become Sophomores and Wusu would play as much if not more.  And I like Greg.  He impressed the heck out of me shooting the ball last year after he finished his previous year on that hot streak.

You pretty much nailed my theory on Williams.  Although, it wasn't just that Wusu was on the floor at end of games. CMA was actually calling final possession plays for him.  I figure Greg felt that he was the upperclassmen, just as able to get to the basket, and a better free throw shooter.  And....he's not wrong. 

Bottom line, CMA picked Wusu as his boy.  I think that was a mistake, but hopefully I am wrong.  As I said in an early post, Wusu is going to have to shoot the ball much better or we need to land a player that will.  Otherwise, CMA may have bet on the wrong kid.   Would have been nothing wrong with having Wusu wait his turn to be a final possession type guy.

Loved Williams game from day 1 and as a junior vs. Wusu as a freshmen agree that Greg should have been the choice. But, no debating that Wusu showed more assertiveness. It’s not like Greg wasn’t afforded an opportunity. Hell, he was a team captain.

Good news is Wusu showed as much or more ability as a freshman and with same trajectory will be equal or better.

 

[Moose]

Isaih Moore just wrote on IG that he’s reopening his recruitment after cutting it down to Cincy and Florida a few days ago lol

CMA really missed on this kid.  Will never bat 1.000 but let's not make that mistake again

 

[NCJohnnie]

JohnnyFan wrote:

Bottom line, CMA picked Wusu as his boy.  I think that was a mistake, but hopefully I am wrong.  As I said in an early post, Wusu is going to have to shoot the ball much better or we need to land a player that will.  Otherwise, CMA may have bet on the wrong kid.   Would have been nothing wrong with having Wusu wait his turn to be a final possession type guy.

I agree 100% with all of the above. I remember on more than one occasion towards the end of the year saying to myself why is Wusu in and Greg out towards the end of games. Pretty sure Greg felt that way too. Water under the bridge now, but I am betting that was the crux of the transfer decision.

 

[Knight]

Just for the record, I'm 110% Sicilian and I'm from Brooklyn. You guys have any clue how people like me react when someone-especially a stranger-says to "calm down"?  Well I'll tell you; we do just the opposite. 

Ok, so catch your breath.

 

[JohnnyFan]

I do agree that most of our transfers are reasonably easy to replace.  The exceptions are........

Moore -Unique talent, but had to go.  I can live with him leaving.

Earlington  -Definitely a loss and I hate that we don't have him for his senior year.  I thought he might transfer last year and I do understand him wanting more playing time.

Williams  -This is the one that makes me wonder.  Considering who he is on and off the court, we have to retain this type of kid.  I have a theory why he left and I do see CMA as responsible. 

So....I get that it is a crazy transfer year, but we lost one too many.  Greg was the red line for me.  I love CMA and have confidence we will remain competitive, but I also hope this was a learning lesson.  

You are right.  Those are the only transfers people should be rightfully upset about.  However 2 weren't CMA kids so that should temper things IMO.  I could toss in Cole only because it was a CMA transfer where he clearly struck out on the two JUCO's.

What's your theory on Williams?

I think personally at the end of games who was on the floor.  It was Wusu.  Was it a mix of Greg being hurt and CMA want to put his guy in Wusu into the fire and see how he handled it?  I think Greg saw the writing on the wall that freshman become Sophomores and Wusu would play as much if not more.  And I like Greg.  He impressed the heck out of me shooting the ball last year after he finished his previous year on that hot streak.

You pretty much nailed my theory on Williams.  Although, it wasn't just that Wusu was on the floor at end of games. CMA was actually calling final possession plays for him.  I figure Greg felt that he was the upperclassmen, just as able to get to the basket, and a better free throw shooter.  And....he's not wrong. 

Bottom line, CMA picked Wusu as his boy.  I think that was a mistake, but hopefully I am wrong.  As I said in an early post, Wusu is going to have to shoot the ball much better or we need to land a player that will.  Otherwise, CMA may have bet on the wrong kid.   Would have been nothing wrong with having Wusu wait his turn to be a final possession type guy.

Loved Williams game from day 1 and as a junior vs. Wusu as a freshmen agree that Greg should have been the choice. But, no debating that Wusu showed more assertiveness. It’s not like Greg wasn’t afforded an opportunity. Hell, he was a team captain.

Good news is Wusu showed as much or more ability as a freshman and with same trajectory will be equal or better.

Well....if Wusu ever shoots 40% from three he will be one heck of a player.  For now, he shoots 28% and needs to work on free throw shooting.  

 

[Moose]

I do agree that most of our transfers are reasonably easy to replace.  The exceptions are........

Moore -Unique talent, but had to go.  I can live with him leaving.

Earlington  -Definitely a loss and I hate that we don't have him for his senior year.  I thought he might transfer last year and I do understand him wanting more playing time.

Williams  -This is the one that makes me wonder.  Considering who he is on and off the court, we have to retain this type of kid.  I have a theory why he left and I do see CMA as responsible. 

So....I get that it is a crazy transfer year, but we lost one too many.  Greg was the red line for me.  I love CMA and have confidence we will remain competitive, but I also hope this was a learning lesson.  

You are right.  Those are the only transfers people should be rightfully upset about.  However 2 weren't CMA kids so that should temper things IMO.  I could toss in Cole only because it was a CMA transfer where he clearly struck out on the two JUCO's.

What's your theory on Williams?

I think personally at the end of games who was on the floor.  It was Wusu.  Was it a mix of Greg being hurt and CMA want to put his guy in Wusu into the fire and see how he handled it?  I think Greg saw the writing on the wall that freshman become Sophomores and Wusu would play as much if not more.  And I like Greg.  He impressed the heck out of me shooting the ball last year after he finished his previous year on that hot streak.

You pretty much nailed my theory on Williams.  Although, it wasn't just that Wusu was on the floor at end of games. CMA was actually calling final possession plays for him.  I figure Greg felt that he was the upperclassmen, just as able to get to the basket, and a better free throw shooter.  And....he's not wrong. 

Bottom line, CMA picked Wusu as his boy.  I think that was a mistake, but hopefully I am wrong.  As I said in an early post, Wusu is going to have to shoot the ball much better or we need to land a player that will.  Otherwise, CMA may have bet on the wrong kid.   Would have been nothing wrong with having Wusu wait his turn to be a final possession type guy.

Loved Williams game from day 1 and as a junior vs. Wusu as a freshmen agree that Greg should have been the choice. But, no debating that Wusu showed more assertiveness. It’s not like Greg wasn’t afforded an opportunity. Hell, he was a team captain.

Good news is Wusu showed as much or more ability as a freshman and with same trajectory will be equal or better.

Well....if Wusu ever shoots 40% from three he will be one heck of a player.  For now, he shoots 28% and needs to work on free throw shooting.  

TBF Greg went from 20% in year 1, to 34% to 45%.  Lets hope Wusu has similar ascent.

 

[Section3]

I do agree that most of our transfers are reasonably easy to replace.  The exceptions are........

Moore -Unique talent, but had to go.  I can live with him leaving.

Earlington  -Definitely a loss and I hate that we don't have him for his senior year.  I thought he might transfer last year and I do understand him wanting more playing time.

Williams  -This is the one that makes me wonder.  Considering who he is on and off the court, we have to retain this type of kid.  I have a theory why he left and I do see CMA as responsible. 

So....I get that it is a crazy transfer year, but we lost one too many.  Greg was the red line for me.  I love CMA and have confidence we will remain competitive, but I also hope this was a learning lesson.  

You are right.  Those are the only transfers people should be rightfully upset about.  However 2 weren't CMA kids so that should temper things IMO.  I could toss in Cole only because it was a CMA transfer where he clearly struck out on the two JUCO's.

What's your theory on Williams?

I think personally at the end of games who was on the floor.  It was Wusu.  Was it a mix of Greg being hurt and CMA want to put his guy in Wusu into the fire and see how he handled it?  I think Greg saw the writing on the wall that freshman become Sophomores and Wusu would play as much if not more.  And I like Greg.  He impressed the heck out of me shooting the ball last year after he finished his previous year on that hot streak.

You pretty much nailed my theory on Williams.  Although, it wasn't just that Wusu was on the floor at end of games. CMA was actually calling final possession plays for him.  I figure Greg felt that he was the upperclassmen, just as able to get to the basket, and a better free throw shooter.  And....he's not wrong. 

Bottom line, CMA picked Wusu as his boy.  I think that was a mistake, but hopefully I am wrong.  As I said in an early post, Wusu is going to have to shoot the ball much better or we need to land a player that will.  Otherwise, CMA may have bet on the wrong kid.   Would have been nothing wrong with having Wusu wait his turn to be a final possession type guy.

Loved Williams game from day 1 and as a junior vs. Wusu as a freshmen agree that Greg should have been the choice. But, no debating that Wusu showed more assertiveness. It’s not like Greg wasn’t afforded an opportunity. Hell, he was a team captain.

Good news is Wusu showed as much or more ability as a freshman and with same trajectory will be equal or better.

Well....if Wusu ever shoots 40% from three he will be one heck of a player.  For now, he shoots 28% and needs to work on free throw shooting.  

As I said, I am a Williams fan and think he should have been ahead of Wusu in pecking order - and, for most part, he was.

That said, Greg’s 3 point shooting stats for 1st 3 years

Freshmen 20%
Soph 34%
Junior 45%

So, Wusu has ample time to meet and exceed those #s. As far as freshmen year comparisons, Wusu albeit with more PT doesn’t take a back seat

 

[Ray Morgan]

If the NCAA comes up with a rule, you can guarantee it will be bad for us. Almost every player on the 2020-2021 roster is either in the portal or testing the waters. The only 2 that are not out the door or just thinking about it are Posh and his friend Dylan.

The good news is that Posh and Dylan combined for 18 points, Wheeler and Smith another 17. That's 35 points between them.
The bad news is that it's not 1929.

 

[JohnnyFan]

Come'on with the 20% stat during his freshman year.  He only took 15 shots and mostly in garbage time under Mullin.

This Wusu stuff is reaching Nywie proportions.  Next we'll hear Dylan beat Larry Bird in horse when he was fetus.
 

 

[Moose]

Come'on with the 20% stat during his freshman year.  He only took 15 shots and mostly in garbage time under Mullin.

This Wusu stuff is reaching Nywie proportions.  Next we'll hear Dylan beat Larry Bird in horse when he was fetus.

 

Not sure where you are seeing these unrealistic proportions.  Wusu had a good freshman year.  Exceeded anyone's expectations.  Logic says a player is likely to improve.  I'm not seeing anyone saying Wusu is going to be a world beater next year.  But would you be shocked if his numbers all improve?  Greg is perfect example of improvement over his 3 years.  

 

[MakingPlays]

Come'on with the 20% stat during his freshman year.  He only took 15 shots and mostly in garbage time under Mullin.

This Wusu stuff is reaching Nywie proportions.  Next we'll hear Dylan beat Larry Bird in horse when he was fetus.


 

Not sure where you are seeing these unrealistic proportions.  Wusu had a good freshman year.  Exceeded anyone's expectations.  Logic says a player is likely to improve.  I'm not seeing anyone saying Wusu is going to be a world beater next year.  But would you be shocked if his numbers all improve?  Greg is perfect example of improvement over his 3 years.  

That's a good example, and I think Wusu's ceiling is higher than Greg's.  I said it during the season Wusu was the most impressive to me based on his projection.  I would have bet money last off-season he wouldn't have made the rotation, I had Caraher ahead of him in the depth chart.  Not only did he make the rotation, he was a closer in most games, and was one of the go to scorers to close the game, they ran isolations for him to go 1 on 1 and get to the rim frequently to get baskets to close the games. 

 

[MakingPlays]

Isaih Moore just wrote on IG that he’s reopening his recruitment after cutting it down to Cincy and Florida a few days ago lol

He is all over the place, he's been taking classes from the Kevin Durant school of how to act on social media.

 

[monte]

I think Wusu will improve next year, and will continue to be a valuable role player, but that doesn't necessarily mean that his stats will improve. Prime example is Earlington. I believe he was a better player for us this year, even though his number were lower. 

 

[JohnnyFan]

Come'on with the 20% stat during his freshman year.  He only took 15 shots and mostly in garbage time under Mullin.

This Wusu stuff is reaching Nywie proportions.  Next we'll hear Dylan beat Larry Bird in horse when he was fetus.


 

Not sure where you are seeing these unrealistic proportions.  Wusu had a good freshman year.  Exceeded anyone's expectations.  Logic says a player is likely to improve.  I'm not seeing anyone saying Wusu is going to be a world beater next year.  But would you be shocked if his numbers all improve?  Greg is perfect example of improvement over his 3 years.  

I thought Greg was already a good shooter when he arrived here as a freshmen.  I am sure Wusu will improve, but I am not seeing a future 40% three baller.  Hopefully we get a transfer in here to buy us another year for Wusu to develop.    

 

[guinness77]

Wusu, ideally, would have a Dom Pointer type arc if he plays 4 years here. That’s realistic to me. 

 

[Money]

If the NCAA comes up with a rule, you can guarantee it will be bad for us. Almost every player on the 2020-2021 roster is either in the portal or testing the waters. The only 2 that are not out the door or just thinking about it are Posh and his friend Dylan.

The good news is that Posh and Dylan combined for 18 points, Wheeler and Smith another 17. That's 35 points between them.
The bad news is that it's not 1929.

So that's how math works in terms of points expected for upcoming season!!

Let's take a quick look at 2019
Dunn - 12
Champ - 10
Earlington - 9
Williams - 6
Roberts - 5

That's 45 points coming into this past season - and somehow the team managed 79.
Miracle I tell you!