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RIP Coach Carnesecca
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Chuck Everson is seems to be a real good dude. I use to run into him on several occasions years ago when our daughters played HS and AAU basketball. Would chatted about St. John’s and Nova. He went to the same HS as Ron Stewart (he is a couple years younger) and he always spoke glowingly about the St. John’s guys and how much the Nova guys got along with them and the respect each side had for one another.
He attended Coach’s wake and reiterated it was a good thing we lost to Gtown in the final four because they couldn’t do anything against our two lefties (Mullin and Berry).
AH, Do you remember the game where Ed Pinckney blocked Chris Mullin's layup 3 or 4 times in a row on the same sequence, with Mullin retrieving the ball each time, until finally Mullin scored on Pinckney (and perhaps drew the foul also)?
Not the exact specifics but I do recall a block shot and Chris retrieving the ball, scoring and being fouled.
Also recall the Holiday Festival Championship where we played Nova and won. Chris spent a good part of the game guarding Easy Ed. They are good friends.
That’s a great story about Mullin and Pinkney .
I seem to recall some story about the 2 of them going back to their CYO , HS Days playing against other
I think the story goes along these lines . Pinkney was asked a question by a Reporter about Mullin and he replied “ I have been playing with and against Chris Mullin since grade school and I’m never surprised by what he can do on a Basketball Court .”
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at the Final Four our hotel was right next to Nova's and both teams kind of hung out on the off days after practice...I know I went to dinner with their trainer Fran Raggazino.
So good that Ed came very close to being the experienced assistant we never had under CM
Although Mullin played in the era of no 3 point shot (his stats would have been even better had he had it) Mully was a master at drawing a foul and connecting on the basket for the Old Fashioned 3 point play. His fakes were superb.
That's great to hear about how Nova and Sju players got along, even at the FF. Rollie was their version of Lou, a madman on the sidelines, but never rising to enemy. Thompson I believe, though completely a gentleman off the court, liked to create an us vs them atmosphere, maybe even an us against the world. Lots of good reasons though. Boeheim was such a whiner, he became an enemy too. Off the court, he was always very gracious about St. Johns, even saying that Mullin was the best Big East player in its history.
Another reason Villanova had synergies with St Johns is that many of their students grew up around nyc rooting for St Johns. Many had parents who were SJU alums. Of course Jay Wright was such a gracious, likeable asset, it was impossible to hate his teams.
I knew Cuse had to be paying players because why would anyone want to play for Boeheim? He is as inviting and warm as a Syracuse winter.
Never a fan of Rollie. Seemed incredibly pompous with an edge that Lou never had. His whole departure to UNLV was a debacle.
When Looie returned to SJU from the Nets, his new salary at SJU was a reported $22,000. Mulzoff had been paid $17,000, due to the fact that at that time SJU paid him no more than full time faculty.
I don't recall the details of Rollie's departure, but I do agree the similarities diverge after sideline antics. (Allegedly, they were the team that put a paper bag full of cash at Walter Berry's hotel door).
Rollie's aggregate record his last 4 years at Nova was 67-61, and somehow got 2 ncaa bids with 17-15 and 18-15 records. His 14-15 final season at Nova was likely writing on the wall, but also likely a money grab. He lasted just two seasons at unlv.
Vill vs SJU at Alumni Hall. I don’t recall the year but it was before the game was moved to MSG. SJU get the opening tap with the ball in Mullins hand He passes the ball to a teammate at half court and moves down the sideline , then under the basket and back to just about where he started , with all his teammates setting blocks he gets the ball back and has a wide open twenty footer which he drains.
This was a play Looie ran for years and Rollie had probably practiced defending it for the past two days so he explodes on the sideline, the shirt already out of his pants and calls a timeout with tenor twelve seconds gone in the game.
This was a play Looie ran for years and Rollie had probably practiced defending it for the past two days so he explodes on the sideline, the shirt already out of his pants and calls a timeout with tenor twelve seconds gone in the game.
Mullin and Looie had classic matchups with Villanova, Pinkney and Rollie; watching those two impish Italian-Americans on the sidelines with their gyrations was comical. Looie though being much more slender (let's say) than Rollie did not look as discombobulated on the sidelines.
Hating on Nova wasn't easy back then especially when they had classy, Easy-Ed Pinkney.
Years later, when Nova fans invaded the Garden almost making it an away game, with their Main Line attitudes, fancier clothes, and somewhat superior, smug attitudes (some students, not all and not their parents), I always got the feeling they looked down on "blue collar" St. John's students. [Like the Old: "your fathers, work for our fathers" chants.]
Hating on Nova wasn't easy back then especially when they had classy, Easy-Ed Pinkney.
Years later, when Nova fans invaded the Garden almost making it an away game, with their Main Line attitudes, fancier clothes, and somewhat superior, smug attitudes (some students, not all and not their parents), I always got the feeling they looked down on "blue collar" St. John's students. [Like the Old: "your fathers, work for our fathers" chants.]
The play was called the “Red”.
Rollie used to throw the triangle and two at us when we had Chris and David Russell playing those two mans to man and a triangle zone on the rest. Billy Goodwin would always go off on them when they tried that or as he would say “I’ll kick their teeth in if they try that garbage”.
Tried it a bit in 84/85 but it didn’t work at all.
Nova gives off the catholic country club vibes of Notre Dame, just ask Temple, St. Joe's and LaSalle fans.
Beast I am pretty sure it was Georgia.
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I took a train to Syracuse for a game one year when Red Bruin (Mater Christi alum, like me) was there. He picked up his girlfriend in a quite nice Trans Am or something like that. Nice ride for a kid from Queensbridge...
Of course, he got into some trouble with the law after his college career but seems to be an okay guy now as a youth counselor in South Carolina.
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Yeah, never had any intention of coming here but why not get the free tickets...
I went to see Lou after he committed to Syracuse to lament losing him and Lou’s response was “Hey, he can’t hurt us”.