Rick Pitino - Head Coach at St John’s University!!!

OR... potentially... the guys making more $... aren't giving top Effort...

can see that bothering some of the lesser paid guys
This happens everywhere. Look at corporate America and see how many middle managers loaf around while at higher end of pay scale while young up and comers grind at bottom of scale and hope they get a few extra points raise to gradually catch up to the others or they leave for another job where they get more $ or feel valued other ways.
 
Does docbutler post here anymore? I just read an interesting post from him on a Facebook fan group about a former player assessing some of the problems with the current squad. Anyone else see this?
I think these guys would dislike each other even if NIL wasn’t a thing. To say there is no chemistry would be an absolute understatement.

Every team has to deal with NIL stuff.
 
Does docbutler post here anymore? I just read an interesting post from him on a Facebook fan group about a former player assessing some of the problems with the current squad. Anyone else see this?
Doc was always a very knowledgeable poster. Can you tell us what he said?
 
He wrote that he spoke with a former starting PG of our’s who said many of these guys don’t like each other. There is also some jealousy over NIL and who gets paid what.
This very well may be the case. I have no knowledge one way or the other. But, at some point don't the super seniors of the group have to figure out that they should figure out how to make this work for the next 4-6 weeks as it's their last go-round. No one is expecting you to become lifelong buddies. Just figure out how to work together toward a common goal for a few weeks.
 
This very well may be the case. I have no knowledge one way or the other. But, at some point don't the super seniors of the group have to figure out that they should figure out how to make this work for the next 4-6 weeks as it's their last go-round. No one is expecting you to become lifelong buddies. Just figure out how to work together toward a common goal for a few weeks.
Thinking the exact same... kids from Harvard / Penn / VMI / a national champ... you would think there would be a maturity/recognition of the moment with this group...
 
All these kids have to do is keep their mouths shut and no one will know who is making what. There are probably only a handful of people at the school who are privy to the numbers.

I don’t doubt that StJ’s players know, or at least surmise what their teammates are making.

It is hard for 18 to 23 year old kids can keep a secret among teammate they see everyday; someone tells someone who tells someone, etc.
 
Pitino says he played his ass off against Providence. Didn’t look any different to me and I suspect not to others. Goes to show we have no idea how hard he’s playing or practicing but are judging primarily by the results.
I agree . Soriano was abused by Oduro all game , 28 points .
Oduro has a crafty game , is left handed and can play well in the low post or from the elbow . Joel was beaten continually by him . So was Zuby .

Maybe my eye sight is gone but , does it look like Joel has put back on some of the weight he list this past Summer?
And , is the 2nd half Swoon in games a function of a tired team ?
RP has been working them hard since July and even , now in practices . Has he worn down everyone ?
Physically and Mentally . Even though these players are being paid , tired players just don’t play well .
 
I agree . Soriano was abused by Oduro all game , 28 points .
Oduro has a crafty game , is left handed and can play well in the low post or from the elbow . Joel was beaten continually by him . So was Zuby .

Maybe my eye sight is gone but , does it look like Joel has put back on some of the weight he list this past Summer?
And , is the 2nd half Swoon in games a function of a tired team ?
RP has been working them hard since July and even , now in practices . Has he worn down everyone ?
Physically and Mentally . Even though these players are being paid , tired players just don’t play well .
Zuby didn’t play most of the second half he got his fourth foul at the start of the half and sat until Soriano foiled out. Oduro had 26 of his 28 points in the second half so saying he schooled Zuby is not accurate.
The worst part was the last couple minutes of the game when Soriano fouled him 3 possessions in a row. All of the fouls were with the shot clock under 10 seconds too.
 
Zuby didn’t play most of the second half he got his fourth foul at the start of the half and sat until Soriano foiled out. Oduro had 26 of his 28 points in the second half so saying he schooled Zuby is not accurate.
The worst part was the last couple minutes of the game when Soriano fouled him 3 possessions in a row. All of the fouls were with the shot clock under 10 seconds too.
Good point about Zuby . Maybe abused was harsh . But , who got that 4 th foul on him ?
Frankly I don’t know .

Let’s change it to Soriano being baffled by Oduro and so was the rest of our defense .

We turned a good player into a All BE selection . Maybe even over Soriano ?
 
The idea that these players, their families, and handlers are going to be able to comply with some sort of understanding to stay silent on their compensation is poorly thought out. Reality dictates that the players will know almost everything and just have to deal with it. Hopefully, they take it out on their opponents to earn more money the next season.
 
I agree . Soriano was abused by Oduro all game , 28 points .
Oduro has a crafty game , is left handed and can play well in the low post or from the elbow . Joel was beaten continually by him . So was Zuby .

Maybe my eye sight is gone but , does it look like Joel has put back on some of the weight he list this past Summer?
And , is the 2nd half Swoon in games a function of a tired team ?
RP has been working them hard since July and even , now in practices . Has he worn down everyone ?
Physically and Mentally . Even though these players are being paid , tired players just don’t play well .
The biggest difference I see in Soriano‘s offensive game is that he is no longer patiently creating the angles that resulted in him taking and making a high % of jump hooks. He seems to have reverted to his past habit of rushing, resulting in awkward, low % over the shoulder shots. I don’t know whether this is a function of rushing due to double teams, loss of confidence or simply reverting to the old muscle memory. I tend to think it is the double and triple teams that have made him revert to an older, less effective form.

I think he needs to become more aware of the opposing center’s position and be ready to make a “go/no go” decision as soon as he recdives the ball. I dont think I’ve ever seem them pass out of the post with the intent to re-post.
 
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