Cautioning it with saying he could be having a stroke? Yea irresponsible.Extreme? I was cautioning those that are slinging arrows. If you consider that irresponsible, tough.
Cautioning it with saying he could be having a stroke? Yea irresponsible.Extreme? I was cautioning those that are slinging arrows. If you consider that irresponsible, tough.
Read the post again. This time try not moving your lips.Cautioning it with saying he could be having a stroke? Yea irresponsible.
Yea I did. And it’s still all the same. You take care knight. Knight night.Read the post again. This time try not moving your lips.
So let’s try and clear this up for me knight. You are implying Soriano may have something going on with a physical ailment. Then you post about JR Richard’s condition. What am I missing here with what you are trying to convey? Please tell me.Read the post again. This time try not moving your lips.
Reasonable post for certain.That's the part that's concerning. And why it's a talking point regarding NIL; How do you get players to play and be motivated like they want to win as bad as the coach whose livelihood depends on it, when the players are being paid before they perform on the court. Obviously that's a blanket statement and doesn't apply to all, or most, and suggesting kids at this level don't want to win badly is foolish, but I feel there is some merit to it when searching for the grit and toughness that was once on display in this sport.
(Disclaimer: I am all for NIL and kids deserve to be paid, even though I'd like better and clearer rules that are actually enforced to ensure a slightly more level playing field)
IMO, the problems start with the false assumption that "kids deserve to be paid". I know the rationale behind that, but the kids were being compensated by the oft derided free room, board and tuition and were deemed amateurs. But, big money form TV revenue and otherwise create the illusion that the student athletes "deserve" to make money off of their efforts, aside from the benefits cited.(Disclaimer: I am all for NIL and kids deserve to be paid, even though I'd like better and clearer rules that are actually enforced to ensure a slightly more level playing field)
I’m saying I think that his performance may be the result of something physical/phycological rather than a willfully lazy effort. I took umbrage to you saying that my post was irresponsible. I offered another possible explanation documented with a historical reference. I remember Richard getting pilloried for a similar change in performance.So let’s try and clear this up for me knight. You are implying Soriano may have something going on with a physical ailment. Then you post about JR Richard’s condition. What am I missing here with what you are trying to convey? Please tell me.
I hear ya and my initial reaction was the potential linking him to it. Thats the way I read your post. Apologies if I misread your intentions.I’m saying I think that his performance may be the result of something physical/phycological rather than a willfully lazy effort. I took umbrage to you saying that my post was irresponsible. I offered another possible explanation documented with a historical reference. I remember Richard getting pilloried for a similar change in performance.
He makes all the perimeter players worse. None of them are better off for him playing. You give him 30 minutes at the 1 and he will destroy any top 25 team from inside. If you disagree that’s fine.How does that warrant calling Jenkins a cancer?
I'll take a missed Jenkins jumper in the Round of 32..Our season will either end in a blowout loss or with him missing a jumper.
I think he plays pretty much how Pitino wants him to.He makes all the perimeter players worse. None of them are better off for him playing. You give him 30 minutes at the 1 and he will destroy any top 25 team from inside. If you disagree that’s fine.
I would never let any kid I coached or advised play with someone like him.
I don’t buy the out of position argument either. Phil Greene had less PG skills than Jenkins and he didn’t rot the team from the inside by trying to play outside of his abilities.
He probably had 2-3 games left where he will be really on but it won’t matter. Our season will either end in a blowout loss or with him missing a jumper.
Only 11 teams in the Big East tournament.I'll take a missed Jenkins jumper in the Round of 32
I love your detail and accumen but on behalf of everyone here can you please give the Jenkins trashing a rest. It's approaching spam levels.He makes all the perimeter players worse. None of them are better off for him playing. You give him 30 minutes at the 1 and he will destroy any top 25 team from inside. If you disagree that’s fine.
I would never let any kid I coached or advised play with someone like him.
I don’t buy the out of position argument either. Phil Greene had less PG skills than Jenkins and he didn’t rot the team from the inside by trying to play outside of his abilities.
He probably had 2-3 games left where he will be really on but it won’t matter. Our season will either end in a blowout loss or with him missing a jumper.
I saw it. And with regard to people being jealous about who makes what money without knowing a single thing about any other teams in America I’m sure every team is dealing with that issue. Jealousy about who makes what. I don’t think that would be isolated to one team.Does docbutler post here anymore? I just read an interesting post from him on a Facebook fan group about a former player assessing some of the problems with the current squad. Anyone else see this?
Wouldn’t this be an issue for all Power 6 Conference teams? UCONN and Marquette seem to be handling this well. Trying to pinpoint blame in one area provides certainty, not necessarily reality.Does docbutler post here anymore? I just read an interesting post from him on a Facebook fan group about a former player assessing some of the problems with the current squad. Anyone else see this?
It wasn't so much the jealousy issue that got me, it was the statement that the players do not like each other and play at the same time...not together. I just found it to be an interesting statement and it seems as if Coach Pitino and Jenkins have dropped some hints about this being a problem.I saw it. And with regard to people being jealous about who makes what money without knowing a single thing about any other teams in America I’m sure every team is dealing with that issue. Jealousy about who makes what. I don’t think that would be isolated to one team.
Yea saw that comment as well but still if true It can all stem from money allotted as I’m sure some of the guys making the most are not the guys performing the best.It wasn't so much the jealousy issue that got me, it was the statement that the players do not like each other and play at the same time...not together. I just found it to be an interesting statement and it seems as if Coach Pitino and Jenkins have dropped some hints about this being a problem.
Besides the obvious upgrade of talent that is needed, I think team chemistry is a major issue with this group.
OR... potentially... the guys making more $... aren't giving top Effort...Yea saw that comment as well but still if true It can all stem from money allotted as I’m sure some of the guys making the most are not the guys performing the best.
Sure this happens in almost every team to a degree and also in the pro level just need to play through it on the field or court.OR... potentially... the guys making more $... aren't giving top Effort...
can see that bothering some of the lesser paid guys