Rick Pitino - Head Coach at St John’s University!!!

Roamer said:
All this just shows you how much coaching experience and pedigree matters. Hindsight is 20-20 but the administration was wasting its time hiring prior coaches with none of the above and hoping for a miracle. I am not a season ticket holder but will be going to every MSG game I can attend this year.
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All this doesn't happen without some very generous NIL supporters.

Rick is great but right now college bball is all about show me the money. Sad.
 
Beasts of the East said:
All this doesn't happen without some very generous NIL supporters.

Rick is great but right now college bball is all about show me the money. Sad.
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Hasn't it always been that way, though? Only now it's legal.

Personally I'm a fan because players can now be legally paid, programs don't have to worry as much about being penalized for breaking NCAA rules, and St. John's can clearly compete in this new landscape (at least for now).
 
mjmaherjr said:
Heard from a very good source that the school is putting a hoop on stage and at the end of the night Boo will hit a last second shot from his table to close out the night
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David Cain will have a terrible time for the first 3/4s of the event and then become the life of the party, deliver a baby, save some one with the heimlich maneuver and sculpt a Renaissance masterpiece in the final 1/4.
 
ADORAZ said:
Hasn't it always been that way, though? Only now it's legal.

Personally I'm a fan because players can now be legally paid, programs don't have to worry as much about being penalized for breaking NCAA rules, and St. John's can clearly compete in this new landscape (at least for now).
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A big concern is whether or not NIL fund raising is sustainable here at SJU. Big commitments have been made to players, on a per season basis. Like virtually all schools, not all the commitments to players are in the bank. Almost certainly, nationally some collectives will default on their commitments this year (Storm marketing will not).

In just a few weeks the annual anticipated annual raise for 24-25 has increased dramatically, to the $3 million range. This is more than the entire athletic department annual donations received.

My great fear is that the cost to run a top basketball program will increase well above $3 million, much like professional sports free agency skyrocketed salaries.

As reported by Otis, the U Michigan collective was just granted charitable status, a surprise considering what now appears to be a misinterpretation of an IRS ruling to the contrary. However any collective granted this status will have to do legitimate charitable work, with athletes being reasonably compensated for work they have done. So for example, a charitable NIL collective paying an athlete $25000 to work at a basketball clinic would jeopardize charitable status.

However, infeel strongly that for individuals to support NIL, a charitable deduction is an important attribute.

Therefore it is becoming increasingly important that the Pitino era gets off to a great start with an ncaa post season.
 
Beasts of the East said:
A big concern is whether or not NIL fund raising is sustainable here at SJU. Big commitments have been made to players, on a per season basis. Like virtually all schools, not all the commitments to players are in the bank. Almost certainly, nationally some collectives will default on their commitments this year (Storm marketing will not).

In just a few weeks the annual anticipated annual raise for 24-25 has increased dramatically, to the $3 million range. This is more than the entire athletic department annual donations received.

My great fear is that the cost to run a top basketball program will increase well above $3 million, much like professional sports free agency skyrocketed salaries.

As reported by Otis, the U Michigan collective was just granted charitable status, a surprise considering what now appears to be a misinterpretation of an IRS ruling to the contrary. However any collective granted this status will have to do legitimate charitable work, with athletes being reasonably compensated for work they have done. So for example, a charitable NIL collective paying an athlete $25000 to work at a basketball clinic would jeopardize charitable status.

However, infeel strongly that for individuals to support NIL, a charitable deduction is an important attribute.

Therefore it is becoming increasingly important that the Pitino era gets off to a great start with an ncaa post season.
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Thanks for that - all valuable information.

Clearly our NIL is much stronger under Pitino than it was the last few years (or even Pitino's first month), but I agree we need St. John's to win which would hopefully help with sustaining donations going forward. If we don't win some Tournament games these next few years then I could see donors just totally giving up.
 
What’s up guys

I don’t post much during the off-season but I just wanted to stop by and say man Colorado football has me fired up for this Johnnies season.

Seeing how fast Deion Sanders came in and brought such a wave of energy, enthusiasm and hype to that program, just has me dreaming about what Pitino year 1 could be here at SJU. Sky is the limit

I can’t wait
 
Happy Friday Johnnie Fans - new episode joined by Zach Braziller of the NY Post to discuss not one but two four star commits in one week, in Jaiden Glover and Khaman Maker, how St. John's is not done yet and swinging for the fences for more in 2024, the games to look forward to most this upcoming season and how there are real parallels right now between Rick Pitino and what Deion Sanders is doing in College Football with Colorado.

Point blank, Rick Pitino has made St. John's basketball cool again, and it's only been 6 months. Hope you enjoy



 
SJUDave said:
Happy Friday Johnnie Fans - new episode joined by Zach Braziller of the NY Post to discuss not one but two four star commits in one week, in Jaiden Glover and Khaman Maker, how St. John's is not done yet and swinging for the fences for more in 2024, the games to look forward to most this upcoming season and how there are real parallels right now between Rick Pitino and what Deion Sanders is doing in College Football with Colorado.

Point blank, Rick Pitino has made St. John's basketball cool again, and it's only been 6 months. Hope you enjoy



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Thanks!! Great listen!
 
It's interesting to look back on all that has transpired since the Pitino hire. I do recall there was a small group on the board who had legitimate concerns that SJU would receive some negative press for hiring Pitino, due to his past transgressions. I don't recall having seem even one negative press article about St. John's and Pitino.
 
room112 said:
It's interesting to look back on all that has transpired since the Pitino hire. I do recall there was a small group on the board who had legitimate concerns that SJU would receive some negative press for hiring Pitino, due to his past transgressions. I don't recall having seem even one negative press article about St. John's and Pitino.
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I can think of one SI article right off the back but who cares.
 
room112 said:
It's interesting to look back on all that has transpired since the Pitino hire. I do recall there was a small group on the board who had legitimate concerns that SJU would receive some negative press for hiring Pitino, due to his past transgressions. I don't recall having seem even one negative press article about St. John's and Pitino.the
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room112 said:
It's interesting to look back on all that has transpired since the Pitino hire. I do recall there was a small group on the board who had legitimate concerns that SJU would receive some negative press for hiring Pitino, due to his past transgressions. I don't recall having seem even one negative press article about St. John's and Pitino.
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It’s funny, these days organizations, corps, etc. panic about these things, but it’s mostly their anxiety. In reality, the news window has never been shorter. Worst case you just weather the storm a few days or wks & the PC police will find a new target. Glad our program FINALLY listened to us! If Rick can’t get us back to winning, no one else can. NCAAT or bust!
 
room112 said:
It's interesting to look back on all that has transpired since the Pitino hire. I do recall there was a small group on the board who had legitimate concerns that SJU would receive some negative press for hiring Pitino, due to his past transgressions. I don't recall having seem even one negative press article about St. John's and Pitino.
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there was a few articles/videos early on...some youtube videos, and some twitter nonsense but for the most part it's been drowned out by an absolute wave of positivity and hype
 
room112 said:
It's interesting to look back on all that has transpired since the Pitino hire. I do recall there was a small group on the board who had legitimate concerns that SJU would receive some negative press for hiring Pitino, due to his past transgressions. I don't recall having seem even one negative press article about St. John's and Pitino.
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That extremely vocal minority cost us 5 years of excellence over nothing. There literally hasn’t been one negative news story.
 
room112 said:
It's interesting to look back on all that has transpired since the Pitino hire. I do recall there was a small group on the board who had legitimate concerns that SJU would receive some negative press for hiring Pitino, due to his past transgressions. I don't recall having seem even one negative press article about St. John's and Pitino.
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You are correct in the lack of negative blowback since the decision to hire Ptino was announced.

However we must acknowkedge that one reason that Pitino was available to St.John's is that there wasn't a long line of suitors looking to hire him.

Without going into specifics, and do not respond to this paragraph, we are in an era where those with grave transgressions have had careers resurrected.

As Coach Carnesecca said, giiving his blessing to the hire, "That's why we have Confession."

It may be the stuff of storybook that a fallen coach widely considered one of the best coaches in history, restores a program once considered among the best in the nation, and in doing so redeems himself on the biggest stage on earth.

And we have a front row seat.
 
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