oh he cares because he was going back and forth with the fan and even got so defensive he revealed that Jose Alvarado was actually going to commit to St Johns until everything with Slice went sideways
Rick’s Targets
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Look, I can be as impatient as anyone. It’s one of my biggest faults. But, I have to believe that in the end Pitino gets it done here. Let’s just let it play out.
Very valid points. I was thinking more in the mid range vs. 3 pointer context.
. . . even when I'm not.
I am neither endorsing that lineup, I hope for at least 1-2 more impactful commitments, nor saying I would be satisfied with a bubble team. Just pointing out my POV on the players the OP listed. I'm also not jumping off a building at this point. Far too early.
100%. Look at where kids like Clayton and Jenkins were "ranked", and now look at the schools chasing them in the portal besides us.
Also we have so many spots here that it should be about acquiring talent that fit Rick's vision, and then it is up to him to mold the group together. Maybe the Niagara kid isn't a great defender or FT shooter, but perhaps his other offensive/scoring skills fit what Rick is trying to do and provide a canvass Rick can coach up into an even better player.
Yea, except I'm sure he knows that Twitter is a cesspool and ultimately his relationship with Pitino, Van, Mas, etc, trumps all.
It's also an indicative of the fact that fair to middling talents with potential take time to develop and having 20 somethings who have been essentially honing their skills and getting taught up in the minor leagues are a very valuable commodity compared to borderline 18 year olds who will require investments in training and experience that might not be the most effective use of human or fiscal resources.
From Zach, re recruits, sorry if:
What's up everyone. Been a whirlwind. Setting you for the weekend.
-- Iona guard Cruz Davis and VMI wing Sean Conway taking officials this weekend.
-- Harvard forward Chris Ledlum has an official Sunday-Monday.
-- Niagara transfer Noah Thomasson emerging as a top target. Will visit in a few weeks. He's at San Francisco this weekend and Georgia next weekend.
-- Four-star guard Brady Dunlap, a former Notre Dame signee, is down to St. John's, Penn State, North Carolina, Nebraska and Villanova, will be visiting on the 22nd.
What's up everyone. Been a whirlwind. Setting you for the weekend.
-- Iona guard Cruz Davis and VMI wing Sean Conway taking officials this weekend.
-- Harvard forward Chris Ledlum has an official Sunday-Monday.
-- Niagara transfer Noah Thomasson emerging as a top target. Will visit in a few weeks. He's at San Francisco this weekend and Georgia next weekend.
-- Four-star guard Brady Dunlap, a former Notre Dame signee, is down to St. John's, Penn State, North Carolina, Nebraska and Villanova, will be visiting on the 22nd.
More from Zach, buzz re Boogie, apologize if:
One other recruiting note: St. John's has been very active recruiting five-star guard Boogie Fland of Stepinac. Source described it as "nonstop." Obviously, there will be really tough competition, schools like Kansas, Kentucky, Alabama are among those really involved. But there is a belief SJU has a real shot here.
One other recruiting note: St. John's has been very active recruiting five-star guard Boogie Fland of Stepinac. Source described it as "nonstop." Obviously, there will be really tough competition, schools like Kansas, Kentucky, Alabama are among those really involved. But there is a belief SJU has a real shot here.
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Rocket
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Georgetown hired a great coach and recruiter in Cooley who has been on top of national talent for a while at Providence. Now that he has a load of NIL $ at Georgetown he is ahead of the recruiting game.
Villanova has won a few national championships in the lifetime of current recruits. Not a difficult sell there.
Rick Pitino had to find potentially good players who would come to New Rochelle to play for room and board.
One thing is for certain, on a man for man basis, he will replace the underperforming players who had 2, 3 and 4 stars associated with their ranking.
As for Daniss Jenkins, he is a mature experienced player who was the MVP of the MAAC tournament and a close second to Walt Clayton as the heart of the Iona offense.
I'm not sure how well Clayton will do under a new coach but I think Daniss will not need any adjustments playing at St. John's for Rick Pitino.
I too hope for more impactful players to be added but Georgetown does not have a double double center like Joel Soriano to build around.
Our backcourt was a hot mess with varying lineups of Curbelo, Posh, King, Wusu and Pinzon. These were all good individual players in my opinion. Unfortunately, they did not mesh consistently as a team.
I think that next season, with Pitino and St. John's on the "national stage", we will see interest from higher level recruits and transfers. With Repole back in the fold, recruiting kids to NYC will not be as difficult as compared to places like Spokane, Providence, Memphis or Houston.
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Never seen the kid play but someone had mentioned his poor free throw shooting so looked it up. Weird stat line, good shooting % and 3 point shooting % bad free throw shooter. Bootsy was like that too if memory serves.
No opinion either way since I can admit to never seeing kid play. Pitino is already doing the impossible though. Every now again mostly during Norm years a poster or 2 would mention we should just leave BE and go into mid major. The board would erupt as if someone insulted their mom or Rick Pitino. Well Pitino is bringing the mid major to ST John’s and people are excited.
No opinion just an observation.
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Might want to rethink that, he cares
Ri-ight, but players he coached or whom competed against him and are 'probably' above mid-major caliber, as that anonymous HC commented to Zach specifically about Jenkins.
It's too early to add mere 'depth' here.
In my view, guys he brings in now and through May are likely guys he believes will meaningfully contribute at the BEC level.
We, of course, shall see.
Jack, Arbitrllo has not had many top tier players recently. He lied about Lavin not recruiting CTK players. He got upset because Lavin got DeLarosa without any help from him. Williams is the first big time player he has had in a while. St John’s encouraged Gardner to move to New York and attend CTK. A lot of recent CTK players have flamed out in college. Jose Alvarado and Tyson Walker took their games to a whole nother level once they got to college.
As I said before, I am not on Twitter so have no idea what was said.
I said this before but will repeat it again. I saw Thomasson play against us on November 26th at Carnesecca arena (see box score link below) and came away very impressed. He was easily the best guard on the court that night, for either side. During our admittedly weak out of conference schedule games, that we played at Carnesecca this past season, he was by far the best opposing player that I saw. I think he is a Big East level player and like the fact that he and Jenkins have a pre-existing friendship. These experienced transfer players from lower level conferences have worked out well recently for many teams.
St. John's 78-70 Niagara (Nov 26, 2022) Box Score - ESPN
Box score for the St. John's Red Storm vs. Niagara Purple Eagles NCAAM game from November 26, 2022 on ESPN. Includes all points, rebounds and steals stats.
Rocket
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Was elite 8 Florida Atlantic University a mid major?
Was Princeton a Power 5 school?
How did Louisville, UNC, Villanova and other high majors do this past season?
Rick added ONE all MAAC conference player and we're a mid major all of a sudden???
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Oh! no opinion? Well, here’s an observation, or several, countering your idea that coach P is bringing the mid major to St. John’s
College coaching record: 834-293. That’s about .740 winning % in 35 years.
Tournament record: 54-21. 7 times in the Final Four with 3 schools. A national championship with 2 different schools.
Providence was 11-20 when he took over and he had them in the Final Four in 2 years
Kentucky was on probation and couldn’t participate in their conference tournament when he took over. Record was 14-14 year 1. 22-6 year 2 while still on probation!! No less than 27 wins every year after. Both championship years, 35-5.
One losing season. Boston U graduated a bunch of seniors and the following year he still pulled off 13-14.
So spare us Pitino is bringing the mid major to St. John’s.