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In her first interview since the move, Cantor laid out the fast-paced chronology that led to the announcement Sept. 18 that Syracuse was leaving the athletic conference it helped found in 1979.

The action started Tuesday, Sept. 13, when ACC officials voted to accept new members. The conference had planned to stay at 12 teams, but that week decided to expand because other conferences were moving in that direction, Swofford has told reporters.

The next day, the ACC called Cantor to see if SU was interested in applying. She called Swofford back the next morning, Thursday, and had a lengthy conversation that included the New York City dimension that SU could offer, she said. That call was the only chance SU had to make its case, Cantor said. More than 10 schools had applied.

So on Tues the ACC decides -- suddenly, just that week -- to accept new members. Sometime Wed the ACC calls Syracuse and broaches the idea of SU leaving the conference its been in for 30 years. You might imagine that SU is flabbergasted by the idea - what, leave the BE, I dunno, I'll have to think about it - but instead bright and early Thursday morning - by which time no fewer than 10 other schools have heard of the ACC's 24 hour old decision to expand and have discussed among their administrations, athletics programs, and boards of trustees the pros and cons of leaving their current conferences, made the decision to do so, and communicated to the ACC their applications for admission - SU, having had those same discussions, makes an impassioned and compelling case for admission, including, in what can only have been a face palm moment, the idea of "playing competitions" in the NYC area as a pot sweetener. "I wanted to make sure the ACC was interested in playing competitions in the NYC area" said Montgomery Burns, chairman and CEO of the Springfield Nuclear Power Plant. "Twenty Three skidoo!" Sorry, did I say Montgomery Burns, I meant Nancy Cantor, Chancellor of Syracuse University. Playing competitions. Good lord.

Anyway, this is quite a remarkable and amusing story. If only Yahweh had acted with such alacrity, He could have rested on Saturday as well. Usually torpid beauracracies move with speed that makes Solomon Grundy look the slacker. Due diligence lawyers spend most of the afternoon googling the legal ramifications. Accountants destroy several abacuses in their haste to calculate the bottom line. Twelve hours later the billion dollar deal is finalized and its a go. And the moral is: he who hesitates is lost.
 
 

In her first interview since the move, Cantor laid out the fast-paced chronology that led to the announcement Sept. 18 that Syracuse was leaving the athletic conference it helped found in 1979.

The action started Tuesday, Sept. 13, when ACC officials voted to accept new members. The conference had planned to stay at 12 teams, but that week decided to expand because other conferences were moving in that direction, Swofford has told reporters.

The next day, the ACC called Cantor to see if SU was interested in applying. She called Swofford back the next morning, Thursday, and had a lengthy conversation that included the New York City dimension that SU could offer, she said. That call was the only chance SU had to make its case, Cantor said. More than 10 schools had applied.

So on Tues the ACC decides -- suddenly, just that week -- to accept new members. Sometime Wed the ACC calls Syracuse and broaches the idea of SU leaving the conference its been in for 30 years. You might imagine that SU is flabbergasted by the idea - what, leave the BE, I dunno, I'll have to think about it - but instead bright and early Thursday morning - by which time no fewer than 10 other schools have heard of the ACC's 24 hour old decision to expand and have discussed among their administrations, athletics programs, and boards of trustees the pros and cons of leaving their current conferences, made the decision to do so, and communicated to the ACC their applications for admission - SU, having had those same discussions, makes an impassioned and compelling case for admission, including, in what can only have been a face palm moment, the idea of "playing competitions" in the NYC area as a pot sweetener. "I wanted to make sure the ACC was interested in playing competitions in the NYC area" said Montgomery Burns, chairman and CEO of the Springfield Nuclear Power Plant. "Twenty Three skidoo!" Sorry, did I say Montgomery Burns, I meant Nancy Cantor, Chancellor of Syracuse University. Playing competitions. Good lord.

Anyway, this is quite a remarkable and amusing story. If only Yahweh had acted with such alacrity, He could have rested on Saturday as well. Usually torpid beauracracies move with speed that makes Solomon Grundy look the slacker. Due diligence lawyers spend most of the afternoon googling the legal ramifications. Accountants destroy several abacuses in their haste to calculate the bottom line. Twelve hours later the billion dollar deal is finalized and its a go. And the moral is: he who hesitates is lost.
 

Only you Fun could have put the time frame in such eloquent terms! LOL! If the time frame does not fit, unlike the glove we will not acquit! LOL!
 
 Syracuse will look to play some basketball games in New York City, chancellor says

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/09/home_away_from_the_dome_syracu.html

Syracuse, NY -- Syracuse University hopes to play some of its biggest home basketball games in New York City after SU joins the Atlantic Coast Conference, Chancellor Nancy Cantor said Tuesday.

Cantor talked about playing in New York City in a phone conversation two weeks ago with ACC Commissioner John Swofford as the conference considered SU’s application, she said. “That was something they were indeed very interested in,” Cantor said.

In her first interview since the move, Cantor laid out the fast-paced chronology that led to the announcement Sept. 18 that Syracuse was leaving the athletic conference it helped found in 1979.

The action started Tuesday, Sept. 13, when ACC officials voted to accept new members. The conference had planned to stay at 12 teams, but that week decided to expand because other conferences were moving in that direction, Swofford has told reporters.

The next day, the ACC called Cantor to see if SU was interested in applying. She called Swofford back the next morning, Thursday, and had a lengthy conversation that included the New York City dimension that SU could offer, she said. That call was the only chance SU had to make its case, Cantor said. More than 10 schools had applied.

“I wasn’t making a pitch,” Cantor said. “We were just really having a two-way conversation about the opportunity.”

The next day, Friday, the executive committee of SU’s board of trustees voted to approve the move if the ACC offered. That Saturday, while Cantor was in California for SU’s football game against Southern Cal, Swofford called her to the ACC had accepted Syracuse and Pittsburgh. SU and Pitt had not worked together, Cantor said.

The next day, the ACC announced the news publicly. In the news release that announced SU’s move, Cantor said, “We look forward to bringing ACC games to the Big Apple.”

The new conference means SU will play basketball powerhouses North Carolina and Duke in home conference games. Those three teams have won the national championship five out of the past 11 seasons. But Central New Yorkers might have to travel on occasion to see the showdowns.

“We haven’t gotten that far, but we absolutely have plans to do that – absolutely,” Cantor said of moving some SU home games to a New York City arena, such as Madison Square Garden.

“I wanted to make sure that (the ACC was) interested in playing competitions in the New York City area, because that’s very important to us,” Cantor said. “We see ourselves as New York’s college team.”

That doesn’t mean fans won’t be able to also catch the North Carolina and Duke games in the Carrier Dome some seasons, she said. “I’m really looking forward to the day we get 60,000 Central New Yorkers in the Carrier Dome for Duke or North Carolina,” Cantor said. SU remains committed to keeping those games at the Dome on a regular basis, she said.

She also talked to Swofford about having the ACC basketball tournament rotate into New York City, she said.

Syracuse already plans to play some home football games at the New Meadowlands Stadium in New Jersey. They include Southern California next year, Penn State in 2013, and Notre Dame in 2014 and 2016.

SU was prepared to apply when the ACC called because it had done so in 2003 and was denied, Cantor said.

The incentive for making the move this time was partly financial – the ACC’s payback to its members is higher than the Big East’s, she said. She would not give a comparison. One factor in SU’s decision was that the ACC had a TV contract with ESPN — $1.86 billion over 12 years – and the Big East was still working on one that would take effect after its current ESPN contract expires in 2013, Cantor said.

SU had voted to accept a TV deal that the Big East turned down in August. That played in to SU’s thinking about the ACC, Cantor said. “Certainly, we had hoped it (the TV deal) would go through,” she said. “Obviously, when you think about the stability of what was offered with the ACC, that was attractive to us.”

SU must pay a $5 million exit fee to leave the Big East. That penalty will be made up by the increased revenues in the ACC “in not too long a time,” Cantor said. SU hasn’t calculated how long, she said. SU will abide by the requirement in the Big East’s bylaws that it must give 27 months’ notice before leaving, Cantor said. It’s up to conference officials to reduce that time, she said.

Other chancellors or presidents at Big East schools have been supportive when they talked to Cantor, she said. She spent time at Saturday’s football game with men’s basketball coach Jim Boeheim, and they talked about the decision. He told her he was OK with the move, she said.

“We talked about how this was going to be a really good fit,” Cantor said. “Obviously, there are sentimental ties, and strong ties, loyalties to the Big East, but things change.”

The switch was a chance for SU to improve its stability in all sports, she said. “Looking forward, we saw an opportunity to go and we felt this was a tremendous fit for us, and we felt that from a fiduciary standpoint the right thing to do in terms of stability of the conference,” she said. “It seemed like the right time to go. And you never know if you’re going to have opportunities, so you want to grab them.”

The move to the ACC will mean a higher level of competition for all of SU’s sports, not just football and basketball, she said. Lacrosse, field hockey, tennis and soccer will also benefit, she said. And jumping to the new conference will give SU better footing in recruiting students from a wider area, Cantor said. She hopes it will bring greater “geographic diversity” to the student body.

“We have a much greater presence now on the West Coast, and this gives us the Atlantic Coast, up and down, and that’s very important for the student body of the future, those population centers,” she said.
 


What a load of Horse Manure
 
Since the appointment of the Chancellor (Dr. Cantor) and the AD(Dr. Gross) they act like the State of New York is their own personal stomping grounds. Neither demonstrate class or consideration for others.......Syracuse cannot leave the Big East soon enough for me. The fan base up here in orangeland are not happy campers. Most that I speak to, say how much they will miss the associations and friendships built over the years and they are really going to miss the Big East Tournament each year. Of course that's just my opinion.
 
 what does it say about their university and the loyalty to their students if they want to play their home ACC games at MSG>
 
 First do you really think they would jeapordize the 28,000 plus fans they get in the dome? No matter what idiots are running the assylum, they would not tamper with their fanbase in Syracuse. How would you like to buy season tickets to the dome only to be told games against some of the better teams in the ACC will be played in New York City. They might get away that once in a while, but a steady diet of that would allow you to feel the earthquake it would create in Syracuse, down in NYC.
 
"Geographic diversity". yas potential students from Fla.,GA., and N.C. will flock to Syracuse to avoid winter. Only way if Cantor and Gross will share what they are smoking with the kids.  
 
The Sporting News has a great article from Boeheim saying Syracuse will NEVER play a regular ACC game in NYC. I am sorry I don't know how to link it or I would have done it for everyone.... 
 
I don't see this topic yet but the Daily News is reporting that the Syracuse AD wants to play some of their big ACC games at MSG. She had the unbelievable nerve to say she wants Suracuse to be N.Y.'S COLLEGE TEAM. Have they heard of St. John's. What an insult.
 
Their president is an IDIOT!
She gets suckered into the ACC by a few $$ and offers NYC for their BIG games against Duke and UNC! Well Duke and UNC must have been salivating at that suggestion!
(a) not having to trek up to the North Pole for a bb game,
(b) filling half of MSG with their huge NY alum fans for a Syracuse HOME game,
(c) getting a share of the gate

......and to sweeten the deal she promised to play the toughest football games in the Meadowlands! poor snooks in Syracuse get Clemson, BC, NCState, VaTech, Wake, Virginia for basketball........big upgrade for the Dome!!! LMAO!!
 
The Sporting News has a great article from Boeheim saying Syracuse will NEVER play a regular ACC game in NYC. I am sorry I don't know how to link it or I would have done it for everyone.... 
 Thx for the update. Totally supports the argument, the one we on the board love, that Syracuse will NEVER be, nor ever was, NYC's team. It was only some weak marketing attempt at rallying a bunch of NYC alums to donate more to the university coffers.

That being said, I would say Boeheim's comment may be a bit off as I would say it may wind up true for MSG. But I suspect Syracuse will one day play in a pre-season, or early season tourney at Barclay Center. That's my guess - but NYC never will be their "domain." - ha ha ha :cheer: 
 
I don't see this topic yet but the Daily News is reporting that the Syracuse AD wants to play some of their big ACC games at MSG. She had the unbelievable nerve to say she wants Suracuse to be N.Y.'S COLLEGE TEAM. Have they heard of St. John's. What an insult.
 It's been brought up in other threads, threads in which I rant more than most at feeling indignation at Cuse's admin's feeling of self-importance in NYC. They don't really believe it themselves, but I feel they've been merely pandering to their NYC Metro alums to get more donations, support, etc., from their increased recognition/visibility.

It is an insult, and a joke. Even when SJ's wasn't winning, and Cuse won a Beast tourney here and there, it still wasn't NYC's team - never close.
 
The Sporting News has a great article from Boeheim saying Syracuse will NEVER play a regular ACC game in NYC. I am sorry I don't know how to link it or I would have done it for everyone.... 
 

My money is that Jim Boehiem will never coach a game as an ACC coach in MSG! If Uconn ever sucked enough ACC Dck and also got in, neither would Jim Calhoun. Without marquee coaches both programs will diminish in importance to the southern ACC powers. Oh, and good luck in the ACC tourney in MSG in 2017 or later!!
 
Just from a Syracuse perspective, this makes no sense.

Has this woman even been to a game at the Dome?

Does she not see 28,000 - 30,000 fans turn out for a game... against South Florida... on a Wednesday night... during a snowstorm?

Why in the world would she want all those gate receipts to disappear by playing ACC games at MSG?
 
If this ever happens I may have no choice but to buy tickets and root as loud as possible for whatever team is playing against Syracuse, this will be the one time I would be a Duke or Carolina fan. ; )  
 
I don't understand why anyone is surprised that Syracuse University would flee to the ACC. Recall that in 2003 Syracuse University had their bags packed to join the ACC until the Governor of Virginia intervened and made UVA's deciding vote conditioned upon VaTeck being included as one of the 3 expansion schools.

Please also understand that S.U. Chancellor Nancy Cantor held senior positions at both Big Yen member schools Michigan and Illinois. It was reported during the recent Big Ten expansion that Cantor unsuccessfully attempted to utilize her Big Ten connections to gain membership for Syracuse University.

It is amazing how fast the strongest men's basketball conference has shattered. 
 
I don't understand why anyone is surprised that Syracuse University would flee to the ACC. Recall that in 1993 Syracuse University had their bags packed to join the ACC until the Governor of Virginia intervened and made UVA's deciding vote conditioned upon VaTeck being included as one of the 3 expansion schools.

Please also understand that S.U. Chancellor Nancy Cantor held senior positions at both Big Yen member schools Michigan and Illinois. It was reported during the recent Big Ten expansion that Cantor unsuccessfully attempted to utilize her Big Ten connections to gain membership for Syracuse University.

It is amazing how fast the strongest men's basketball conference has shattered.
 

1993?
Shattered?
Come on, we lost 2 teams.
How's vanillanova football coming together?
 
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