Recruiting Impact on “Scandal Schools”

[quote="Paultzman" post=304498]Pays to cheat as usual per Goodman

Sean Miller just landed another Top 50 player: Zeke Nnaji. That makes 2 Top 20 commits and 3 in the Top 50.

No way anyone thought last March/April that Arizona/Miller would land what will wind up being a Top 5 recruiting class in 2019[/quote]
Much of the criticism regarding Mullin's recruiting is warranted. And we can complain and be depressed about the landing any of the top HS seniors.

But to me, stories like this is very infuriating and depressing sports story.

These coaches should not be allowed to coach. Instead, not only do they avoid punishments for cheating, but recruiting goes on without even a minor speed bump.
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=304498]Pays to cheat as usual per Goodman

Sean Miller just landed another Top 50 player: Zeke Nnaji. That makes 2 Top 20 commits and 3 in the Top 50.

No way anyone thought last March/April that Arizona/Miller would land what will wind up being a Top 5 recruiting class in 2019[/quote] burner phones
 
Nauseating. Absolutely nauseating.

Nothing will come of this for any school with any pedigree. We all know it, we can all see it coming a mile away.

All I can think of is Jerry Tarkanian's famous quote:

"The NCAA was so mad at Kentucky they gave Cleveland State two more years of probation."

How (sadly) right he was.

:sick: :angry:
 
Still time for things the change. There's no way Book spends years in prison for Miller if Miller is dirty.
 
I don't think fans here understand how much this impacts us. We've lost out on so many recruits to dirty schools, yet still have such a talented roster. People may be upset the talent didn't get here out of high school, but our staff made it happen, targeting transfers and JUCOS. I feel like I need to add the disclaimer that I'm not a huge Mullin supporter. I just want to see the program succeed.
 
The fans of the programs that got caught complain that the government should spend their resources going after other criminals. They say, "Why are they even prosecuting this?". Nearly all the writers and announcers avoid it or when it comes up they just say that the players should be paid as if that gives the cheating a free pass. Our politicians (from the fly over states) make sure this system stays firmly in place for their successful state football powers.

The NCAA does not put resources into enforcement avoiding their responsibility by not appropriatley funding the only reasonable deterrent.

It seems nothing is going to change here despite the efforts of a few well intentioned people in our federal government. Crime pays in the world of college sports.
 
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[quote="OLV72" post=304632].........Our politicians (from the fly over states) make sure this system stays firmly in place.......[/quote]
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I am unaware of any politician, from flyover state or not, that has used any real effort to have the Fed Government to shake up the NCAA. Disappointing.
 
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Plea bargains for indicted assistant coaches coming?

“But, if a plea agreement is reached, it might prevent a trial from happening. And no trial means we probably won’t get all of the information about these events publicly. That has major implications. It would potentially protect some of the coaches, players and schools involved in this case”

https://twitter.com/cbtonnbc/status/1070085504501043200?s=21
 
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Here is the problem with the charges against the Assistant coaches. The government is asserting that they took money to steer players to a certain agent. However, no players signed with the agent. The coaches can now say that they took the money but were never planning on steering players to said agent. If that is the case, all they did was lie to an agent, which is not a crime.
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=306296]Plea bargains for indicted assistant coaches coming?

“But, if a plea agreement is reached, it might prevent a trial from happening. And no trial means we probably won’t get all of the information about these events publicly. That has major implications. It would potentially protect some of the coaches, players and schools involved in this case”

https://twitter.com/cbtonnbc/status/1070085504501043200?s=21[/quote]

Wasn't the hope that the assistants would reach plea bargains, and in the process, have to give up information on the coaches they worked for, in turn bringing them down?
 
At this point, I don't care what happens as long as it results in us getting Book as an assistant for super cheap as he rehabs his image.:lol:
 
[quote="panther2" post=306298]Here is the problem with the charges against the Assistant coaches. The government is asserting that they took money to steer players to a certain agent. However, no players signed with the agent. The coaches can now say that they took the money but were never planning on steering players to said agent. If that is the case, all they did was lie to an agent, which is not a crime.[/quote]

The other problem, with this federal prosecution, is it is predicated on the schools being the victim. That would seem to be a difficult position to sell to a jury, since these schools have all benefitted from acquiring players in this manner. The NCAA rules were clearly violated, but it is unlikely that appropriate penalties will be imposed on the schools currently being investigated. The cheating will continue.
 
[quote="Las Vegan" post=306431][quote="panther2" post=306298]Here is the problem with the charges against the Assistant coaches. The government is asserting that they took money to steer players to a certain agent. However, no players signed with the agent. The coaches can now say that they took the money but were never planning on steering players to said agent. If that is the case, all they did was lie to an agent, which is not a crime.[/quote]

The other problem, with this federal prosecution, is it is predicated on the schools being the victim. That would seem to be a difficult position to sell to a jury, since these schools have all benefitted from acquiring players in this manner. The NCAA rules were clearly violated, but it is unlikely that appropriate penalties will be imposed on the schools currently being investigated. The cheating will continue.[/quote]

So lets start cheating
 
Per Pat Forde


Former USC assistant basketball coach Tony Bland was in the process of negotiating a plea agreement with federal prosecutors in the college basketball fraud case and a deal could be signed in the near future, sources told Yahoo Sports.

Bland would be the first of the four college assistant coaches to reach a plea with the government and his cooperation could lead to a rush of additional settlements by assistant coaches in the case.

The 38-year-old is expected to plead guilty to one count of federal funds bribery and receive a Level 10 sentencing guideline. Based on Bland’s lack of prior criminal record, that would call for a 6-12 month prison sentence. It is quite possible he only receives probation, according to a source.

He technically faced as much as 80 years in prison, although in reality that number would have been far lower even if he had been convicted at his scheduled 2019 trial.

A request for comment from Bland’s attorney, New York-based Jeffrey Lichtman, was not immediately returned.

Bland, who played collegiately at Syracuse and San Diego State, had been indicted in September 2016 on multiple charges by a grand jury empaneled in the Southern District of New York. The charges include honest services wire fraud, solicitations of bribes and conspiracy to commit bribery. Federal prosecutors alleged that he accepted $13,000 from would-be sports agent Christian Dawkins and financial planner Munish Sood in exchange for encouraging NBA-bound USC players to their company.

Bland was also accused of sending payments of $4,000 and $5,000 to the families of two different USC players.

https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-fo...-plea-college-hoops-fraud-case-191548016.html
 
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