Providence Game 2
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Cain's senior season was one of my all time favorites because it was so unexpected. Not just the transformation of Cain into one of the all time clutch players but the season. You can't blame LC. Every time Cain came in he turned the ball over. It came to the point where Cain was waiting on the floor to check in and I'd start the countdown to the turnover. It was pretty much automatic and you didn't have to wait long at all. If he was looking over his shoulder that was his problem not the coach. That was also a different game when Point Guard meant a little more than it does today. If you were ready you were mentally tough and ready to lead. He wasn't.
Buchanan cost us the Duke victory in the NCAA game as he forgot that is was Boo Harvey that got us there. He took shots down the stretch that he should not have taken and Cain would not have. However the point is moot just like Bob Kelly having a bad game against Georgia in the Tournament loss that perhaps Kevin Williams would have allowed us to win. Looie's late insertion was just that too late. Kevin who Jordan reminds me of ,ended up playing 6 or so years in the NBA while Kelly disappeared.
westchesterjoe
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Accolades? If Dom makes a NBA roster? Many NBA teams today and scanning the roster of teams with horrible losing records, show them stocked with, essentially, NBADL talent..The business side of team ownership has caused many teams to jettison high priced players for league minimum contracts \as part of a business model. Sixers, KNICKS, kINGS, Minn, etc
While I agree Dom has provided more this season than all his previous seasons combined, I doubt Lavin has contributed much to his better play. Whitsell maybe, since they have him positioned better in the circle, where he has some range and also him going against other team power forwards for whom he is too quick. HE is a great leaper, in the class of a Willie Glass from our glory days.
His handle is still suspect, especially on the break, where he thinks he needs to go coast to coast every time. He doesn't. He also is not much of a rebounder, on either board . But, there is no doubt he has put points on the board and picked up some of the scoring load, as Harrison recuperates.
So, making a NBA roster these days isn't the path to Millionaire status it once was. i hope he can make a living playing BB FOR A WHILE. Better he use his education to advantage in some field. I'm assuming as a 4 year player he will graduate with a degree in something.Kudoes to him for studying for 4 years. This assuming he doesn't pack it in after the season in March. Al la SAMSPON last year.
Whether it's the head coach himself or members his handpicked staff who are responsible for a player's development, it's the head coach who takes the credit (or the blame) since he heads the program. You might recall that Hall of Famer Al McGuire never even attended practice sessions; just about everything instructional was communicated through his staff ... but he did oversee it, just as Lavin is overseeing what Whitsell et al. are doing.
jerseyshorejohnny
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Happy Birthday to SJU radio play by play man, John Minko who celebrated his birthday on Saturday.
Everybody throws all the blame for everything that goes wrong on the coach and as soon as one player makes a big jump from one year to the next it is Whitesell not Lavin that deserves credit?
westchester joe wrote
So, making a NBA roster these days isn't the path to Millionaire status it once was. i hope he can make a living playing BB FOR A WHILE. Better he use his education to advantage in some field. I'm assuming as a 4 year player he will graduate with a degree in something.Kudoes to him for studying for 4 years. This assuming he doesn't pack it in after the season in March. Al la SAMSPON last year.
Read JSJ's link to post article before you talk of making money with a college degree unless it's in technology Half the graduates have trouble finding jobs that REQUIRE a degree.
he is packing it in as a senior and has his degree according to Lavin.
So, making a NBA roster these days isn't the path to Millionaire status it once was. i hope he can make a living playing BB FOR A WHILE. Better he use his education to advantage in some field. I'm assuming as a 4 year player he will graduate with a degree in something.Kudoes to him for studying for 4 years. This assuming he doesn't pack it in after the season in March. Al la SAMSPON last year.
Read JSJ's link to post article before you talk of making money with a college degree unless it's in technology Half the graduates have trouble finding jobs that REQUIRE a degree.
he is packing it in as a senior and has his degree according to Lavin.
beast of the east
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I thought there was some collegiality among coaches where they didn't go around saying other coaches suck? Maybe I'm just old school. Well not old school as in Old School Redman, more like Mike K, not Miguel K. Catch the drift?
I've said it before, and I got loads of crap for it from posters who completely took my post out of context, but I'll say it again. If Lavin won a national championship here, I don't think you'd still be satisfied. I can just see the post now. "What the hell took him so long?" :lol:
redfan259999888
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lmfao oh yeah Beast, you really got me there. I'm Miguel. Just surprised I'm not Joe3 too, and any of those other ones that was banned on here Beast.
You're a funny one.
beast of the east
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No I don't believe you are Joe3. I actually have a pretty good handle on Joe3, and what set him off and his favorite non-basketball subjects. If anything you are closer to Miguel, but honestly, I could care less. Just that it's pretty clear you've been around here for a while - longer than this user id.
beast of the east
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You may think he is a con man, and i'd say that is your prerogative to think so. Hoever, I'd say that at face value, Lavin is the son of a guy who is recognized as the greatest player ever in the Bay area, and as such grew up around basketball. He worked for Gene KEady a six time national coach of the year, a no nonsense guy, who i've met and who I do not think would be associated with a con man for even a second. Then Lavin goes and gets himself hired by the most successful program in NCAA history in terms of champsionships. Of course he got fired, because in Westwood, anyone not named Wooden gets fired there. As a con man, he also fooled John Wooden himself, who not only befriended him, but chastised him when necessary as part of his maturation as a coach.
So if you ask me his qualifications vs. coaching against John Minko, I would say you are the one a little over the top in your vitriol against Lavin, whereas I've never heard him bash one of his players, opposing player, or coach.