(PRE-GAME) Villanova (MSG), Sun., Feb. 17, 5p, FS-1 / 570 AM
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[quote="stjohnnie75" post=322717][quote="stjohnnie75" post=322660][quote="JackofVirginia" post=322627][quote="Paultzman" post=322523]Coming out slow with poor shooting has been a factor in some defeats and coming out hot, grabbing a lead, only to fade in stretch, has been an issue in others. (And a win last night)
Against a disciplined team like Nova, SJU has to be competent from start to finish. Avoiding those famous SJU shooting droughts is key. Btw, a common quality of Nova & Marquette, two best BE teams, is ability to draw fouls, not only resulting in a lot of FTs, but obviously putting opposition in foul trouble. That’s a killer potentially for our thin roster. Not only is Nova adept at drawing fouls through crafty play, but zebras treat them like Duke in that regard.[/quote]
I had previously predicted a victory over Nova, however after the pass two games I am deeply concerned with our inconsistencies. Watching many of the Nova games I am really impressed how both Booth and Paschall can turn it on at the end of their games. Not worried about their big men hurting us down low. Better keep an eye on Gillespie who has been as hot as a piston. Got to hit the boards. Oh I forgot we don't rebound on the offensive boards.[/quote]
Gillespie had an off game against Marquette. 5 pts on 2-9 shooting (1-6 3pters).
Don’t leave him open, that’s for sure![/quote]
Gillespie had another rough shooting night going 1-9 and 0-6 3pters.
He won’t miss a shot against us, book it![/quote]
Only if we leave him open. Easily guarded player at his best when focus is on others.
Against a disciplined team like Nova, SJU has to be competent from start to finish. Avoiding those famous SJU shooting droughts is key. Btw, a common quality of Nova & Marquette, two best BE teams, is ability to draw fouls, not only resulting in a lot of FTs, but obviously putting opposition in foul trouble. That’s a killer potentially for our thin roster. Not only is Nova adept at drawing fouls through crafty play, but zebras treat them like Duke in that regard.[/quote]
I had previously predicted a victory over Nova, however after the pass two games I am deeply concerned with our inconsistencies. Watching many of the Nova games I am really impressed how both Booth and Paschall can turn it on at the end of their games. Not worried about their big men hurting us down low. Better keep an eye on Gillespie who has been as hot as a piston. Got to hit the boards. Oh I forgot we don't rebound on the offensive boards.[/quote]
Gillespie had an off game against Marquette. 5 pts on 2-9 shooting (1-6 3pters).
Don’t leave him open, that’s for sure![/quote]
Gillespie had another rough shooting night going 1-9 and 0-6 3pters.
He won’t miss a shot against us, book it![/quote]
Only if we leave him open. Easily guarded player at his best when focus is on others.
JohnnyFever
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[quote="Marillac" post=322766]This is a huge game for us for so many reasons. We need another quality win. We need a program statement. It would be a huge boost to our recruiting. You can’t get swept...and certainly can’t give up the sweep on your home floor.
Sold out MSG. Big time.[/quote]
I want this one badly and definitely a big one, but not so sure it truly has a recruiting impact. We beat them last year when they were #1 and nothing really came of it. We also beat #4 Duke and nothing came of it recruiting wise. This year we swept top 10 Marquette and there was no obvious positive impact recruiting. It certainly doesn't hurt it but can anyone offer any real evidence e.g. a recruit specifically citing a big win and committing right after? I used to think it was the case since it makes sense, but I can't remember any examples if any actually happened.
Sold out MSG. Big time.[/quote]
I want this one badly and definitely a big one, but not so sure it truly has a recruiting impact. We beat them last year when they were #1 and nothing really came of it. We also beat #4 Duke and nothing came of it recruiting wise. This year we swept top 10 Marquette and there was no obvious positive impact recruiting. It certainly doesn't hurt it but can anyone offer any real evidence e.g. a recruit specifically citing a big win and committing right after? I used to think it was the case since it makes sense, but I can't remember any examples if any actually happened.
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=322783][quote="Marillac" post=322766]This is a huge game for us for so many reasons. We need another quality win. We need a program statement. It would be a huge boost to our recruiting. You can’t get swept...and certainly can’t give up the sweep on your home floor.
Sold out MSG. Big time.[/quote]
I want this one badly and definitely a big one, but not so sure it truly has a recruiting impact. We beat them last year when they were #1 and nothing really came of it. We also beat #4 Duke and nothing came of it recruiting wise. This year we swept top 10 Marquette and there was no obvious positive impact recruiting. It certainly doesn't hurt it but can anyone offer any real evidence e.g. a recruit specifically citing a big win and committing right after? I used to think it was the case since it makes sense, but I can't remember any examples if any actually happened.[/quote]
PT limitations in addition to poor record.
We beat Nova and finish strong, you can bet Precious will notice.
Sold out MSG. Big time.[/quote]
I want this one badly and definitely a big one, but not so sure it truly has a recruiting impact. We beat them last year when they were #1 and nothing really came of it. We also beat #4 Duke and nothing came of it recruiting wise. This year we swept top 10 Marquette and there was no obvious positive impact recruiting. It certainly doesn't hurt it but can anyone offer any real evidence e.g. a recruit specifically citing a big win and committing right after? I used to think it was the case since it makes sense, but I can't remember any examples if any actually happened.[/quote]
PT limitations in addition to poor record.
We beat Nova and finish strong, you can bet Precious will notice.
JackofVirginia
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[quote="Paultzman" post=322742][quote="Mike Zaun" post=322734][quote="stjohnnie75" post=322717][quote="stjohnnie75" post=322660][quote="JackofVirginia" post=322627][quote="Paultzman" post=322523]Coming out slow with poor shooting has been a factor in some defeats and coming out hot, grabbing a lead, only to fade in stretch, has been an issue in others. (And a win last night)
Against a disciplined team like Nova, SJU has to be competent from start to finish. Avoiding those famous SJU shooting droughts is key. Btw, a common quality of Nova & Marquette, two best BE teams, is ability to draw fouls, not only resulting in a lot of FTs, but obviously putting opposition in foul trouble. That’s a killer potentially for our thin roster. Not only is Nova adept at drawing fouls through crafty play, but zebras treat them like Duke in that regard.[/quote]
I had previously predicted a victory over Nova, however after the pass two games I am deeply concerned with our inconsistencies. Watching many of the Nova games I am really impressed how both Booth and Paschall can turn it on at the end of their games. Not worried about their big men hurting us down low. Better keep an eye on Gillespie who has been as hot as a piston. Got to hit the boards. Oh I forgot we don't rebound on the offensive boards.[/quote]
Gillespie had an off game against Marquette. 5 pts on 2-9 shooting (1-6 3pters).
Don’t leave him open, that’s for sure![/quote]
Gillespie had another rough shooting night going 1-9 and 0-6 3pters.
He won’t miss a shot against us, book it![/quote]
Big thorn in our side like Big Ragu was. Would be nice if Nova didn't get every call and hit auto 3's against us.[/quote]
On other end he is a poor defender who SJU will post up on a lot I suspect. Hopefully refs don’t buy his flops.[/quote]
Hopefully the refs even out the fouls unlike the first game - Nova 10 fouls, SJ 18 fouls. Thinking Figueroa guards Paschall, Simon on Booth, Ponds takes Gillespie, Heron on Bey and Clark guards either Samuels or Cosby - Raymond. Have to avoid foul trouble against both Paschall and Booth. We have to stay grounded on both their fakes shooting threes and beat them to the spot on their drives.
Against a disciplined team like Nova, SJU has to be competent from start to finish. Avoiding those famous SJU shooting droughts is key. Btw, a common quality of Nova & Marquette, two best BE teams, is ability to draw fouls, not only resulting in a lot of FTs, but obviously putting opposition in foul trouble. That’s a killer potentially for our thin roster. Not only is Nova adept at drawing fouls through crafty play, but zebras treat them like Duke in that regard.[/quote]
I had previously predicted a victory over Nova, however after the pass two games I am deeply concerned with our inconsistencies. Watching many of the Nova games I am really impressed how both Booth and Paschall can turn it on at the end of their games. Not worried about their big men hurting us down low. Better keep an eye on Gillespie who has been as hot as a piston. Got to hit the boards. Oh I forgot we don't rebound on the offensive boards.[/quote]
Gillespie had an off game against Marquette. 5 pts on 2-9 shooting (1-6 3pters).
Don’t leave him open, that’s for sure![/quote]
Gillespie had another rough shooting night going 1-9 and 0-6 3pters.
He won’t miss a shot against us, book it![/quote]
Big thorn in our side like Big Ragu was. Would be nice if Nova didn't get every call and hit auto 3's against us.[/quote]
On other end he is a poor defender who SJU will post up on a lot I suspect. Hopefully refs don’t buy his flops.[/quote]
Hopefully the refs even out the fouls unlike the first game - Nova 10 fouls, SJ 18 fouls. Thinking Figueroa guards Paschall, Simon on Booth, Ponds takes Gillespie, Heron on Bey and Clark guards either Samuels or Cosby - Raymond. Have to avoid foul trouble against both Paschall and Booth. We have to stay grounded on both their fakes shooting threes and beat them to the spot on their drives.
redfan259999888
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[quote="Marillac" post=322766]This is a huge game for us for so many reasons. We need another quality win. We need a program statement. It would be a huge boost to our recruiting. You can’t get swept...and certainly can’t give up the sweep on your home floor.
Sold out MSG. Big time.[/quote]
MSG had big crowd for G-Town & PC, and it was little time from SJU
Sold out MSG. Big time.[/quote]
MSG had big crowd for G-Town & PC, and it was little time from SJU
[quote="JackofVirginia" post=322786] We have to stay grounded on both their fakes shooting threes and beat them to the spot on their drives.[/quote]
100% spot on. Drills in practice should be focused on closing out on shooters under control, staying on your feet, keeping hands high and no reaching for steals or blocked shots.
100% spot on. Drills in practice should be focused on closing out on shooters under control, staying on your feet, keeping hands high and no reaching for steals or blocked shots.
Mullin on Nova;
https://twitter.com/john_fanta/status/1096167880285052928?s=21
https://twitter.com/john_fanta/status/1096167880285052928?s=21
We shot 8 free throws last game vs Nova . They shot 22 and made 16. We made 6 of the 8 , I think ., That’s way too much a differential to overcome . Can’t happen that way again .
ManhattAn1
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Can’t just settle for jump shots this game. Be aggressive draw fouls
We have the talent to play with Nova. Real question is do we have the discipline. Clark needs to do a good job bodying up Paschall w/o fouling and team needs to take advantage of Gillespie on defense. If he covers either Ponds or Heron they should eat him alive and if they put him on Simon, other guys need to clear out the middle and Simon needs to post him up all day. I would put Simon on Booth; unless we leave Gillespie open, only Booth & Paschall can hurt us on offense.
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=322783][quote="Marillac" post=322766]This is a huge game for us for so many reasons. We need another quality win. We need a program statement. It would be a huge boost to our recruiting. You can’t get swept...and certainly can’t give up the sweep on your home floor.
Sold out MSG. Big time.[/quote]
I want this one badly and definitely a big one, but not so sure it truly has a recruiting impact. We beat them last year when they were #1 and nothing really came of it. We also beat #4 Duke and nothing came of it recruiting wise. This year we swept top 10 Marquette and there was no obvious positive impact recruiting. It certainly doesn't hurt it but can anyone offer any real evidence e.g. a recruit specifically citing a big win and committing right after? I used to think it was the case since it makes sense, but I can't remember any examples if any actually happened.[/quote]
We got a commitment from a top 60 player right after beating Marquette like six weeks ago dude.
Sold out MSG. Big time.[/quote]
I want this one badly and definitely a big one, but not so sure it truly has a recruiting impact. We beat them last year when they were #1 and nothing really came of it. We also beat #4 Duke and nothing came of it recruiting wise. This year we swept top 10 Marquette and there was no obvious positive impact recruiting. It certainly doesn't hurt it but can anyone offer any real evidence e.g. a recruit specifically citing a big win and committing right after? I used to think it was the case since it makes sense, but I can't remember any examples if any actually happened.[/quote]
We got a commitment from a top 60 player right after beating Marquette like six weeks ago dude.
JohnnyFever
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[quote="Marillac" post=322838][quote="Mike Zaun" post=322783][quote="Marillac" post=322766]This is a huge game for us for so many reasons. We need another quality win. We need a program statement. It would be a huge boost to our recruiting. You can’t get swept...and certainly can’t give up the sweep on your home floor.
Sold out MSG. Big time.[/quote]
I want this one badly and definitely a big one, but not so sure it truly has a recruiting impact. We beat them last year when they were #1 and nothing really came of it. We also beat #4 Duke and nothing came of it recruiting wise. This year we swept top 10 Marquette and there was no obvious positive impact recruiting. It certainly doesn't hurt it but can anyone offer any real evidence e.g. a recruit specifically citing a big win and committing right after? I used to think it was the case since it makes sense, but I can't remember any examples if any actually happened.[/quote]
We got a commitment from a top 60 player right after beating Marquette like six weeks ago dude.[/quote]
Love the Tabor commitment, but how do we know for sure it was because of the big win and wouldn't have committed then otherwise? The timing of it could point to that of course, but it's not obvious.
Sold out MSG. Big time.[/quote]
I want this one badly and definitely a big one, but not so sure it truly has a recruiting impact. We beat them last year when they were #1 and nothing really came of it. We also beat #4 Duke and nothing came of it recruiting wise. This year we swept top 10 Marquette and there was no obvious positive impact recruiting. It certainly doesn't hurt it but can anyone offer any real evidence e.g. a recruit specifically citing a big win and committing right after? I used to think it was the case since it makes sense, but I can't remember any examples if any actually happened.[/quote]
We got a commitment from a top 60 player right after beating Marquette like six weeks ago dude.[/quote]
Love the Tabor commitment, but how do we know for sure it was because of the big win and wouldn't have committed then otherwise? The timing of it could point to that of course, but it's not obvious.
boo haarvey
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[quote="Mike Zaun" post=322850][quote="Marillac" post=322838][quote="Mike Zaun" post=322783][quote="Marillac" post=322766]This is a huge game for us for so many reasons. We need another quality win. We need a program statement. It would be a huge boost to our recruiting. You can’t get swept...and certainly can’t give up the sweep on your home floor.
Sold out MSG. Big time.[/quote]
I want this one badly and definitely a big one, but not so sure it truly has a recruiting impact. We beat them last year when they were #1 and nothing really came of it. We also beat #4 Duke and nothing came of it recruiting wise. This year we swept top 10 Marquette and there was no obvious positive impact recruiting. It certainly doesn't hurt it but can anyone offer any real evidence e.g. a recruit specifically citing a big win and committing right after? I used to think it was the case since it makes sense, but I can't remember any examples if any actually happened.[/quote]
We got a commitment from a top 60 player right after beating Marquette like six weeks ago dude.[/quote]
Love the Tabor commitment, but how do we know for sure it was because of the big win and wouldn't have committed then otherwise? The timing of it could point to that of course, but it's not obvious.[/quote]
We’ll never know for sure! Bottom line is winning helps recruiting. Does not guarantee success of course but certainly helps. Not just one game, but the complete body of work. Let’s finish off the season strong, make the dance, and win a game. If that happens, I think we will see a positive impact.
Sold out MSG. Big time.[/quote]
I want this one badly and definitely a big one, but not so sure it truly has a recruiting impact. We beat them last year when they were #1 and nothing really came of it. We also beat #4 Duke and nothing came of it recruiting wise. This year we swept top 10 Marquette and there was no obvious positive impact recruiting. It certainly doesn't hurt it but can anyone offer any real evidence e.g. a recruit specifically citing a big win and committing right after? I used to think it was the case since it makes sense, but I can't remember any examples if any actually happened.[/quote]
We got a commitment from a top 60 player right after beating Marquette like six weeks ago dude.[/quote]
Love the Tabor commitment, but how do we know for sure it was because of the big win and wouldn't have committed then otherwise? The timing of it could point to that of course, but it's not obvious.[/quote]
We’ll never know for sure! Bottom line is winning helps recruiting. Does not guarantee success of course but certainly helps. Not just one game, but the complete body of work. Let’s finish off the season strong, make the dance, and win a game. If that happens, I think we will see a positive impact.
JohnnyFever
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The key with Villanova is making your good looks consistently, holding them below 40% from 3, and minimizing mistakes. Villanova does not beat themselves...they're too polished and too smart. They make you beat them. As Paultz has said, we absolutely cannot afford the patented 5 minute scoring lulls allowing teams to go on 10-0 runs while we are scoreless. We must balance driving with shooting. We also have to come in knowing they love shot fakes and will almost always try to get their man in the air first at which point they decide to drive past them or jump into them for a foul and possibly a 4 pt play.
redstorm89
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game will be close to a sellout, key thing is the number of nova fans vs st. john's fans. our fans have been pretty good about showing up to games at MSG. they just need something to cheer about!
JohnnyFever
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[quote="redstorm89" post=322854]game will be close to a sellout, key thing is the number of nova fans vs st. john's fans. our fans have been pretty good about showing up to games at MSG. they just need something to cheer about![/quote]
Agree, but I'd say SJ fans have been more than pretty good...I'd say awesome. CA is full all the way up to the ceiling which I've never seen prior to this season and we are getting 17,000 for PC and 18,000 for G'Town at MSG. 90+% were SJ fans. The fanbase is there for sure. Just have to give them a reason to come out.
Agree, but I'd say SJ fans have been more than pretty good...I'd say awesome. CA is full all the way up to the ceiling which I've never seen prior to this season and we are getting 17,000 for PC and 18,000 for G'Town at MSG. 90+% were SJ fans. The fanbase is there for sure. Just have to give them a reason to come out.
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=322850][quote="Marillac" post=322838][quote="Mike Zaun" post=322783][quote="Marillac" post=322766]This is a huge game for us for so many reasons. We need another quality win. We need a program statement. It would be a huge boost to our recruiting. You can’t get swept...and certainly can’t give up the sweep on your home floor.
Sold out MSG. Big time.[/quote]
I want this one badly and definitely a big one, but not so sure it truly has a recruiting impact. We beat them last year when they were #1 and nothing really came of it. We also beat #4 Duke and nothing came of it recruiting wise. This year we swept top 10 Marquette and there was no obvious positive impact recruiting. It certainly doesn't hurt it but can anyone offer any real evidence e.g. a recruit specifically citing a big win and committing right after? I used to think it was the case since it makes sense, but I can't remember any examples if any actually happened.[/quote]
We got a commitment from a top 60 player right after beating Marquette like six weeks ago dude.[/quote]
Love the Tabor commitment, but how do we know for sure it was because of the big win and wouldn't have committed then otherwise? The timing of it could point to that of course, but it's not obvious.[/quote]
You asked me to cite an instance of a recruit “committing right after” a “big win.” I did.
There is no way that is the only reason Tabor committee but it likely sealed the deal.
Sold out MSG. Big time.[/quote]
I want this one badly and definitely a big one, but not so sure it truly has a recruiting impact. We beat them last year when they were #1 and nothing really came of it. We also beat #4 Duke and nothing came of it recruiting wise. This year we swept top 10 Marquette and there was no obvious positive impact recruiting. It certainly doesn't hurt it but can anyone offer any real evidence e.g. a recruit specifically citing a big win and committing right after? I used to think it was the case since it makes sense, but I can't remember any examples if any actually happened.[/quote]
We got a commitment from a top 60 player right after beating Marquette like six weeks ago dude.[/quote]
Love the Tabor commitment, but how do we know for sure it was because of the big win and wouldn't have committed then otherwise? The timing of it could point to that of course, but it's not obvious.[/quote]
You asked me to cite an instance of a recruit “committing right after” a “big win.” I did.
There is no way that is the only reason Tabor committee but it likely sealed the deal.
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