(PRE-GAME) @Marquette, Tues. Feb. 5, 8pm, FS1 / 570AM

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[quote="RedStormNC" post=320112]Has the team been on the road since heading to Omaha or were they back in NY at any point?

If so, that's a really long stretch in planes/ hotels for such a critical game.[/quote]

Judging by Ponds Instagram, they went straight to Milwaukee after the Duke game. Not sure about Omaha.
 
On the road the entire time. The team’s bus driver in Durham told us that he picked up the team from their flight from Omaha (and that they were flying to Milwauke after the Duke game). So yes, long trip.
 
Positive way to look at that is it left a lot of time for players and staff to concentrate on what they need to do to beat Marquette and set themselves up for a very strong finish. One game at a time, but a win tonight would do wonders for their confidence and for their case with selection committee. 5-5 BE record with 5 of last 8 at home would be sweet.

As article says, our guys have to bring it tonight. Shamorie will have extra motivation being left off Cousy list with Howard still on it.

https://nypost.com/2019/02/05/st-johns-has-no-choice-but-to-bring-it-vs-no-10-marquette/
 
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[quote="NCJohnnie" post=320120]Positive way to look at that is it left a lot of time for players and staff to concentrate on what they need to do to beat Marquette and set themselves up for a very strong finish. One game at a time, but a win tonight would do wonders for their confidence and for their case with selection committee. 5-5 BE record with 5 of last 8 at home would be sweet.

As article says, our guys have to bring it tonight. Shamorie will have extra motivation being left off Cousy list with Howard still on it.

https://nypost.com/2019/02/05/st-johns-has-no-choice-but-to-bring-it-vs-no-10-marquette/[/quote]

Ponds posted on Twitter in response to that saying he loves being the underdog. Hope this team learned a hard lesson against Duke. You can't come out and go through the motions and you can't dribble lazy and expect to keep the ball. I was watching a Buffalo game and Oats was yelling at his players in the huddle saying "What do you think they will just give it to us? No, if you want it you will have to take it!". That's the mentality we need to have. We need that killer instinct that we had earlier in the year when we closed out some tough games late. Forget the Duke game, winning this game gets us back to .500, gets us a top 10 win, puts us clearly in 3rd, and gives us a really tough roadtrip with 2/3 wins. Going in we knew it would be a wild success if we could find a way to take 2/3. Then we have the home stretch and we may even be able to pay Nova back though they're much tougher than the first time.
 
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=320008][quote="alexander salem" post=320007][quote="Mike Zaun" post=320004][quote="Paultzman" post=320000]Close game, decided in last five minutes with Marquette preserving their winning streak & home court advantage unfortunately[/quote]

Is Marquette really top 10 good though? I feel like they've reached their peak. Maybe I'm wrong. If you keep Howard to 20 or less you have a real shot IMO any day. Hausers are skilled but not very athletic. They are the typical midwestern chuck and pray type team with good skill but average athleticism. If their shots aren't falling 40% or better and we hold Howard to 20 or less I think we have a great shot. They're due to be off at home after being undefeated and winning 8 straight overall. We're the clear better team when our cylinders are clicking IMO. The difference is they're consistent and we're not.[/quote]

Marquette is for real. I think they will be the last BE team left in the tournament. Especially if Howard goes on a run.[/quote]

I don't think they're any comparison to Nova IMO. Marquette will have some pretty dud games here and there which is why we were able to trounce them at home. Nova almost never had a down game and they have the best chemistry of any team in the conference IMO. I think Marquette is a top 20 team but not top 10. Let's get this win and get the fans out for the home stand! If we lose it's not the end of the world obviously, but we will have to dominate at home. Can't be forced to rely on a huge BET performance again to dance. For once, let's just take care of business.[/quote]. Marquette this year is about as good as Xavier was last season . Criticizing their Athleticism is really funny . They have one iof the best Players in the BE in Howard who is a phenomenal Shooter and Scorer . If Marquette continues on its winning ways, except for tonight., Howard has played himself into not only BE POY front runner but, in the hunt with Zion for National POY . Disparaging Marquette and the Hauser’s is fool’s folly . The 2 of them , with their Size and Shooting ability can kill you ! They are great shooters from the Wing or 3 point range. Calling them Midwestern Chuck and plodding is laughable .. They are fundamentally sound and skilled Players. We could use their type of Player on our Team , as could any BE team . Having good Stop and Shoot 3 point Bombers who are reliable can stem the tide of a lot of empty trips . Which as a Team, we do far too frequently and has put us in a hole quite a bit in our losses . I think having great Athletes is more important in the NBA than College BB ... Fundamrntally sound players who can shoot with high precision are often the difference between Winning , like Villanova and Marquette , or losing close games . Candidly , we don’t have that type shooter on our Team . It has hurt us in the clutch , especially if Ponds isn’t having his Superman type game . McClung and Akingo on G’town , Gillespie and Booth on Nova , the Hausers and Howard on Marquette can light it up from long range on a consistent basis . It’s helped them win games down the stretch this season. . Let’s go Redmen! Nearly must win game tonight .
 
Could be a lopsided victory for them if their coach uses the same game plan on ponds that Duke did and fear teams we play from here on use
 
Seth Davis / The ATHLETIC:

St. John’s at Marquette (-7), 8 p.m., FS1. Marquette needs to be careful not to overlook St. John’s in advance of the showdown against Villanova on Saturday. That shouldn’t be a problem given that the Red Storm handed the Golden Eagles their only Big East loss on New Year’s Day, 89-69. Marquette is still far from a great defensive team, but I’d like to think it has improved since that game, during which the Johnnies sank 53.6 percent of their shots. The pick: Marquette
 
[quote="usguard" post=320133]Could be a lopsided victory for them if their coach uses the same game plan on ponds that Duke did and fear teams we play from here on use[/quote]

I don't think what Duke did to him was anything new. It's just that Jones played it very effectively.
 
[quote="usguard" post=320133]Could be a lopsided victory for them if their coach uses the same game plan on ponds that Duke did and fear teams we play from here on use[/quote]. If our Coaching Staff hasn’t developed a counter plan to keep Ponds the Key to our winning , then bring on the criticism . The Duke game showed why having Ponds bring the Ball up Court all the time , needs to be adjusted . He got double or triple teamed and stripped and his 5 turnovers , easily led to 10 points for Duke . You can’t afford to give away that many points to any opponent . Use Simon , Figgy and Heron to get the Ball upcourt . Even Clark if there isn’t any pressure . Ponds needs to touch the Ball , after a set up is established in the middle , near the 3 point line . Getting him some screens to shoot off would help . The 12-15 foot shot has been under utilized in his quiver of Late . It’s either been the long 3 pointer or the drive to the hoop in traffic . He needs more than 11 shots in a game too. In my mind , 18-20 . And , for some reason , he isn’t getting to the Line as much as in the past . Mullin should plant the seed pre game with the Refs that Ponds gets fouled on every drive to the hoop and it needs to be called more . That hasn’t happened a lot in our recent losses . Ideally having Ponds shoot 10 free throws shouid jd be standard in every Game . Refs need to call those fouls and not just let it go . Which they have done far too much . Heron too, doesn’t get enough calls on his drives to the hoop . He gets stripped far too much , mostly because he isn’t getting the reach in call by the refs .
 
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[quote="usguard" post=320133]Could be a lopsided victory for them if their coach uses the same game plan on ponds that Duke did and fear teams we play from here on use[/quote]

What "plan"? They stuck a future NBA defender on him like a leech for for 3/4s of the court. Marquette doesn't have a player like that. Shamorie has been facing defensive attention his entire career and he only sucks when he goes up against an NBA caliber defensive player.

Marquette would be wise to zone is. Hopefully they don't or we hit our shots and scare them of it.
 
[quote="usguard" post=320133]Could be a lopsided victory for them if their coach uses the same game plan on ponds that Duke did and fear teams we play from here on use[/quote]

Not many teams have the one on one defensive ability of Tre and the athleticism of the dookie defenders.
Don't you think the BE coaches know about Ponds and try to stop him? So far only the hall had much success.
 
[quote="usguard" post=320133]Could be a lopsided victory for them if their coach uses the same game plan on ponds that Duke did and fear teams we play from here on use[/quote] Everyone blamed Ponds. But the truth is ,if he is double teamed ,others are open,we have to take advantage and other players have to step up. Clark has to avoid stupid fouls.
 
[quote="Section9" post=320090][quote="oldschool Redmen" post=320063][quote="Section9" post=320061][quote="oldschool Redmen" post=320060][quote="Section9" post=320044][quote="oldschool Redmen" post=319939][quote="Section9" post=319919][quote="Marillac" post=319917][quote="Section9" post=319916][quote="Enright" post=319761]In the first game Howard had a terrible shooting night but SJU also showed what an inferior defensive player he is. Ponds has to take him one on one and if Howard moves over tocover Simon, Simon has to produce down low.
If that don't work Mullin should consider playing Clark and Kieta at the same time forcing Howard to cover Ponds or LJ who will both eat him up or force Marq into a zone which they don't like to do.[/quote]

They're going to have Anim on Shamorie. Only way Howard gets him if they're caught in a switch.
Same time Justin's on Howard and Shamorie primarily gets him in a switch.
Difference is Shamorie's a better defender than Howard.[/quote]

That leaves Howard to cover Simon, Heron, or Figueroa. That is post-up city and a huge reason why we are such a tough matchup for them.

I don't understand why they don't zone us for 40 minutes. It makes no sense to play us man, especially at home.[/quote]

Probably Howard on Simon and the Hausers on LJ and Heron. If Justin posts Howard and makes quick moves he could get to the hoop or create open looks when they collapse on him. It's a big if tho.[/quote]

Serious question, not joking.
Why would anyone collapse on simon?
Let him take the untested layup, his layups are 50-50 anyway.
He'd have to show that he could make them before collapsing on him.[/quote]

Serious answer. There's a difference when Simon throws up wild acrobatic layup attempts when he is being challenged by a bigger defender(s) and when he spins in while being guarded by a 5'10" guard in the lane.[/quote]

But why even take those retarded layup shots? He'll miss those 90% of the time, then it's a wasted possession, then the other team comes down with 3ball and there's a 5pnt swing.
Rather him just stop, take it to the 3pnt line and set the offense. They'd have a better chance at scoring.

Mullin needs to tell to stop that crap or you'll see the bench for the next 10minutes of game time, each one after adds 2minutes to the bench.[/quote]

You asked why anybody would double Simon in the lane and I gave you my answer. Look, I get you don't like Simon, but good luck with Keita, Trimble or Williams replacing him.[/quote]

Trimble isn't a high major bball player, jury is still out on Keita, just getting his legs back, not gonna say wait till next year to see what he has, but I want to see what he gives us in March.
Greg Williams - I'm pretty confident that by his junior year that he'll be better then Simon, atleast won't be missing 2ft shots., and layups.[/quote]

You're like a one trick pony with a broken leg.[/quote]

Lol but isn't it the truth or am I just making it up?
 
[quote="oldschool Redmen" post=320154][quote="Section9" post=320090][quote="oldschool Redmen" post=320063][quote="Section9" post=320061][quote="oldschool Redmen" post=320060][quote="Section9" post=320044][quote="oldschool Redmen" post=319939][quote="Section9" post=319919][quote="Marillac" post=319917][quote="Section9" post=319916][quote="Enright" post=319761]In the first game Howard had a terrible shooting night but SJU also showed what an inferior defensive player he is. Ponds has to take him one on one and if Howard moves over tocover Simon, Simon has to produce down low.
If that don't work Mullin should consider playing Clark and Kieta at the same time forcing Howard to cover Ponds or LJ who will both eat him up or force Marq into a zone which they don't like to do.[/quote]

They're going to have Anim on Shamorie. Only way Howard gets him if they're caught in a switch.
Same time Justin's on Howard and Shamorie primarily gets him in a switch.
Difference is Shamorie's a better defender than Howard.[/quote]

That leaves Howard to cover Simon, Heron, or Figueroa. That is post-up city and a huge reason why we are such a tough matchup for them.

I don't understand why they don't zone us for 40 minutes. It makes no sense to play us man, especially at home.[/quote]

Probably Howard on Simon and the Hausers on LJ and Heron. If Justin posts Howard and makes quick moves he could get to the hoop or create open looks when they collapse on him. It's a big if tho.[/quote]

Serious question, not joking.
Why would anyone collapse on simon?
Let him take the untested layup, his layups are 50-50 anyway.
He'd have to show that he could make them before collapsing on him.[/quote]

Serious answer. There's a difference when Simon throws up wild acrobatic layup attempts when he is being challenged by a bigger defender(s) and when he spins in while being guarded by a 5'10" guard in the lane.[/quote]

But why even take those retarded layup shots? He'll miss those 90% of the time, then it's a wasted possession, then the other team comes down with 3ball and there's a 5pnt swing.
Rather him just stop, take it to the 3pnt line and set the offense. They'd have a better chance at scoring.

Mullin needs to tell to stop that crap or you'll see the bench for the next 10minutes of game time, each one after adds 2minutes to the bench.[/quote]

You asked why anybody would double Simon in the lane and I gave you my answer. Look, I get you don't like Simon, but good luck with Keita, Trimble or Williams replacing him.[/quote]

Trimble isn't a high major bball player, jury is still out on Keita, just getting his legs back, not gonna say wait till next year to see what he has, but I want to see what he gives us in March.
Greg Williams - I'm pretty confident that by his junior year that he'll be better then Simon, atleast won't be missing 2ft shots., and layups.[/quote]

You're like a one trick pony with a broken leg.[/quote]

Lol but isn't it the truth or am I just making it up?[/quote]

The truth, the truth, you can't handle the truth. BTW you're making it up.;)
 
[quote="richard A Steinfeld" post=320152][quote="usguard" post=320133]Could be a lopsided victory for them if their coach uses the same game plan on ponds that Duke did and fear teams we play from here on use[/quote] Everyone blamed Ponds. But the truth is ,if he is double teamed ,others are open,we have to take advantage and other players have to step up. Clark has to avoid stupid fouls.[/quote]

When this happens repeatedly, it's on the coach to design a solution and the player(s) to execute the plan.
 
Let's go win this game. Removes any doubt that this team is for real and creates clear path to NCAA. Room to bounce back next two games with a loss clearly, this is right there with @Nova for toughest game in conference this year. But let's get back in front of the curve with a statement W.
 
Squander another chance to impress or show this team is as good as we initially thought? Tough game, but what an opportunity to win & get on a roll with a lot of home games remaining. Go Johnnies!

Marv keep your hands in your pockets for first half. :)
 
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