(POST GAME) Seton Hall, Sat., Mar. 6, 7p, FS-1 / 570 AM WMCA

[SJU14]

I have to believe this is a real possibility even though it probably won't happen because we aren't one of the "top" teams

COY - CMA
POY - Champ
ROY - Posh
DPOY - Posh

we are not one of the top teams ? 
what exactly does that mean as we will finish either 4th or 5th out of 11 teams? We are no doubt in the upper half of the league. 
not really sure who the poy is but I give it to Champ over Mamu, that is for sure. As for COY and ROY if CMA and Posh do not win those awards it is a huge travesty IMHO. They each ran away from the competition. 
Just love the direction the team and program are headed. It has been a very long time since I have felt this level of comfort. Thank you Mike Cragg and thank you CMA. 

Which is why I put the quotes around top. We will finish 4th in the league but POY seems to always go to the best player on the best team. Fortunately this year, I don't even know who that would be. I don't think a Nova player gets it, Bouknight missed too much time, Zegarowski didn't have the year expected, Mamu might get it but I don't see how a SHU player gets it after their collapse and finishing middle of the pack.

As for COY, I see a lot of support for Hurley but that team played to their expectation this season. I would vote for Ewing before Hurley this year, but obviously I feel CMA is most deserving.

 

[SJU61982]

It's going to be these guys again, Thursday at 3:00.  It would have been that way even if we didn't come back, since Xavier lost.

All this did was assure us that we will be wearing the white uniforms, as the #4 seed.

 

[Demo]

Second time Moore has been disciplined, certainly not a good sign of him returning. CMA is the kind of coach that would see the as addition by subtraction.

 

[Mullins Revenge]

Second time Moore has been disciplined, certainly not a good sign of him returning. CMA is the kind of coach that would see the as addition by subtraction.

Moore cost me $2,000 tonight as I nailed every player in my fantasy lineup but him.  I finished 10 points below the 2k winner.  Moore averages 19 fantasy points a game.

DOH!!!!!!!!

What also hurts is i usually play earliingotn but tonight decided to grab moore instead of the duke.  That would have netted me the 2k as well.

DOH!

 

[firestorm]

I have to believe this is a real possibility even though it probably won't happen because we aren't one of the "top" teams

COY - CMA
POY - Champ
ROY - Posh
DPOY - Posh

we are not one of the top teams ? 
what exactly does that mean as we will finish either 4th or 5th out of 11 teams? We are no doubt in the upper half of the league. 
not really sure who the poy is but I give it to Champ over Mamu, that is for sure. As for COY and ROY if CMA and Posh do not win those awards it is a huge travesty IMHO. They each ran away from the competition. 
Just love the direction the team and program are headed. It has been a very long time since I have felt this level of comfort. Thank you Mike Cragg and thank you CMA. 

Which is why I put the quotes around top. We will finish 4th in the league but POY seems to always go to the best player on the best team. Fortunately this year, I don't even know who that would be. I don't think a Nova player gets it, Bouknight missed too much time, Zegarowski didn't have the year expected, Mamu might get it but I don't see how a SHU player gets it after their collapse and finishing middle of the pack.

As for COY, I see a lot of support for Hurley but that team played to their expectation this season. I would vote for Ewing before Hurley this year, but obviously I feel CMA is most deserving.

FWIW, CMA is a no-brainer for coach of the year. Also think Posh is FOY.

And Champ? I'm calling him next year's POY.

 

[Sherman Sheridan & Grant]

I always liked Greg Williams and I wonder how Greg and his father feel reflecting back on their tough decision whether or not to stay at Saint johns.
imo he is very important to this team, he has so much potential and if it weren't for his back issues he would've had even more of an impactful season!
I am happy for Greg and his dad!
Go Greg Williams!
Go Storm!

 

[DaTiger]

In an effort to evaluate CMA's coaching performance this year, the following compares pre-season expectations with regular season results.  Since I happen to have Ken Pom's 11/26/20 rankings, I'm going with that as the pre-season expectations.

School           11/26 ranking                      3/7 ranking             Change (positive = improvement)
Nova                  4                                         10                                      -6
Creighton         15                                        18                                       -3
Uconn              44                                        23                                       21
The Hall           52                                        55                                       -3
X                      59                                        59                                        0  (Ken knows his stuff)
SJU                 63                                        77                                       14
Providence      46                                        73                                      -27
Marquette        33                                        74                                      -41
G-town             89                                        86                                        3
Butler               65                                       110                                    -45  (ouch)
DePaul             84                                      131                                    -47  (really ouch)

Of course, awards are subjective with all kinds of factors coming into play (i.e. coaches or players saying or doing stupid things, recruiting, late season wins vs losses, dealing with adversities, program development, luck, media support etc.).  According to Ken Pom., Hurley and Uconn have exceded preseason expectations.  Imagine if Uconn had their star (Bouknight) all season.

 

[Section3]

Moore may have sealed his fate. I wouldn't be surprised if he transfers during the off season.

Coach Anderson can recruit someone more coachable.

Let’s hope not...as much doubt as I had in the Jucos after the 1st 10 games or so, they have stepped it up and can be great assets going forward. Moore, in particular, has great potential.

With that said, CMA strikes me as reasonable, but principled, coach/person. So, Moore needs to get back in good graces - and perhaps time for an intervention at the player level.

 

[MCNPA]

If we are going to win a few games in the BET, we are going to need Moore.  Need Posh too.  We still have to earn an NCAA bid, possibly by making and winning the finals.  Need everybody and I think Iron Mike knows that. I bet they'll figure it out before Thursday.

 

[Section3]

I have to believe this is a real possibility even though it probably won't happen because we aren't one of the "top" teams

COY - CMA
POY - Champ
ROY - Posh
DPOY - Posh

Required preface: love CMA and really enjoying watching this team play. But just for the sake of debate, if you're sending out the player of the year, defensive player of the year and freshman of the year and you finished 4/5th, can you really be coach of the year?  

Great point to consider when the BE adopts 2 on 2 format

 

[Amaseinyourface]

In an effort to evaluate CMA's coaching performance this year, the following compares pre-season expectations with regular season results.  Since I happen to have Ken Pom's 11/26/20 rankings, I'm going with that as the pre-season expectations.

School           11/26 ranking                      3/7 ranking             Change (positive = improvement)
Nova                  4                                         10                                      -6
Creighton         15                                        18                                       -3
Uconn              44                                        23                                       21
The Hall           52                                        55                                       -3
X                      59                                        59                                        0  (Ken knows his stuff)
SJU                 63                                        77                                       14
Providence      46                                        73                                      -27
Marquette        33                                        74                                      -41
G-town             89                                        86                                        3
Butler               65                                       110                                    -45  (ouch)
DePaul             84                                      131                                    -47  (really ouch)

Of course, awards are subjective with all kinds of factors coming into play (i.e. coaches or players saying or doing stupid things, recruiting, late season wins vs losses, dealing with adversities, program development, luck, media support etc.).  According to Ken Pom., Hurley and Uconn have exceded preseason expectations.  Imagine if Uconn had their star (Bouknight) all season.

Unless I'm reading it wrong, that seems like an unfair way  to judge the job CMAs done this year. We've underperformed? 

 

[redmanwest]

Fwiw I liked seeing Moore at the end of  the game as one of the first guys up congratulating Dunn when he came out.  Didn't seem to be sulking.  

 

[Section3]

In an effort to evaluate CMA's coaching performance this year, the following compares pre-season expectations with regular season results.  Since I happen to have Ken Pom's 11/26/20 rankings, I'm going with that as the pre-season expectations.

School           11/26 ranking                      3/7 ranking             Change (positive = improvement)
Nova                  4                                         10                                      -6
Creighton         15                                        18                                       -3
Uconn              44                                        23                                       21
The Hall           52                                        55                                       -3
X                      59                                        59                                        0  (Ken knows his stuff)
SJU                 63                                        77                                       14
Providence      46                                        73                                      -27
Marquette        33                                        74                                      -41
G-town             89                                        86                                        3
Butler               65                                       110                                    -45  (ouch)
DePaul             84                                      131                                    -47  (really ouch)

Of course, awards are subjective with all kinds of factors coming into play (i.e. coaches or players saying or doing stupid things, recruiting, late season wins vs losses, dealing with adversities, program development, luck, media support etc.).  According to Ken Pom., Hurley and Uconn have exceded preseason expectations.  Imagine if Uconn had their star (Bouknight) all season.

Unless I'm reading it wrong, that seems like an unfair way  to judge the job CMAs done this year. We've underperformed? 

Yep. Jay Wright has won 6 overall and 4 of the last 8 (the latter of which his team has absolutely been a favorite). How many should we cancel?

 

[paultzman]

Fwiw I liked seeing Moore at the end of  the game as one of the first guys up congratulating Dunn when he came out.  Didn't seem to be sulking.  

Anderson is a fair, patient, but firm guy. Suspect Moore will respond to Mike's move last night. This  is the kind of corrective action imo he will respond to. He has gotten a lot of PT and publicity here. Hope he gets that and sees CMA has expectations and far better to heed them than not.

 

[RJGBOOTSY]

Earlinton played a soild game. His second half 3"s and toughness where very important!!!!!

 

[Amaseinyourface]

In an effort to evaluate CMA's coaching performance this year, the following compares pre-season expectations with regular season results.  Since I happen to have Ken Pom's 11/26/20 rankings, I'm going with that as the pre-season expectations.

School           11/26 ranking                      3/7 ranking             Change (positive = improvement)
Nova                  4                                         10                                      -6
Creighton         15                                        18                                       -3
Uconn              44                                        23                                       21
The Hall           52                                        55                                       -3
X                      59                                        59                                        0  (Ken knows his stuff)
SJU                 63                                        77                                       14
Providence      46                                        73                                      -27
Marquette        33                                        74                                      -41
G-town             89                                        86                                        3
Butler               65                                       110                                    -45  (ouch)
DePaul             84                                      131                                    -47  (really ouch)

Of course, awards are subjective with all kinds of factors coming into play (i.e. coaches or players saying or doing stupid things, recruiting, late season wins vs losses, dealing with adversities, program development, luck, media support etc.).  According to Ken Pom., Hurley and Uconn have exceded preseason expectations.  Imagine if Uconn had their star (Bouknight) all season.

Unless I'm reading it wrong, that seems like an unfair way  to judge the job CMAs done this year. We've underperformed? 

Yep. Jay Wright has won 6 overall and 4 of the last 8 (the latter of which his team has absolutely been a favorite). How many should we cancel?

Not sure what you mean. You put a lot of work into the list and I thought it was interesting. But some numbers gotta be wrong. We go 63 - 77 = 14. Prov goes 46 - 73 = -27. Just wondering if you meant to put -14 for us or if we had a different rating on 11/26.

IMO it’s CMA 1, Patrick 2, Hurley 3.

 

[DaTiger]

I'm sorry, I guess my little chart wasn't clear.  SJU exceded preseason expectations by 14, second most improved next to Uconn.
Positive numbers indicate exceded expectations, if that helps?   Ooops, just noticed the SJU numbers were reversed: pre season was 77, after season is 63....idiot.

Just trying to temper expectations of fans who want SJU to win all the awards.

 

[we are sju]

Need Moore in BET only guy that gets a couple inside baskets.

 

[Amaseinyourface]

Need Moore in BET only guy that gets a couple inside baskets.

Who’s WASJU’s least favorite player this year? Earlington and wusu climb out? Shit I forgot about Dunn.

 

[we are sju]

Need Moore in BET only guy that gets a couple inside baskets.

Who’s WASJU’s least favorite player this year? Earlington and wusu climb out? Shit I forgot about Dunn.

Wusu misjudged early,  like him a lot going to be really good 4 year player for us. 2nd toughest kid on team after Posh.
Earlington I have come around on in a weird way. Despite how he looks he is really a jump shooter and when feet set is a good shooter. Just looks to shoot too much and despite what he looks like does not do the little things you would think he would do. Anderson on point with him though, hitting shots plays, when doesn't he does not offer much so he sits.
With Dunn two things for a guy who can't shoot he does too much and 18 foot jumpers are really obsolete and those are what he shoots.
Also think he tries to do too much.