(POST GAME) (@MSG) Pittsburgh, Sat., Dec. 18, 12 Noon, FS-1

Jesus comments from Big East. Val Ackerman “ after todays loss it’s clear Seton Hall would have beaten St Johns so in keeping with the Christmas Spirit Seton Hall deserves and gets the win “
 
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This game allows me to adjust my expectations for this team.  I do not see us in post-season play, especially the NCAAs, without a major come-to-Jesus time for coaches and players.
 
You can say it was bad all around, defense, offense, free throw shooting, coaching and officiating.  You do your job on all but the latter, the latter doesn’t matter or come into play.  

Wheeler should have been in on that last play as he moves better and has just as much ability to block or alter a shoot as Soriano and moves better.  Mathias was soft going to the hole all game just throwing balls up towards the rim and if he goes hard the last one and try to dunk it like we he has been doing all game, it probably doesn’t get blocked from behind or at least he gets fouled.

What was the play or plan with Posh down 1 with under a minute to go?

 
 
stormin normin post=447396 said:
kranmars post=447376 said:
stormin normin post=447367 said:
Players need to take a good, long look in the mirror and decide what they want to get out of this team and this season. 
Another post where you only blame the players and let Anderson off the hook.

The coach is a bigger problem than the players.
Was Anderson perfect today? Not at all.   But last time I checked, Anderson wasn't the one who shot 50% from the free throw line.  Anderson wasn't the one committing fouls 50 feet away from the basket.   Anderson isn't the one that makes the same type of turnovers game after game. Anderson isn't the one that has started games with 0 to no intensity or excitement, which unfortunately, has been a common theme this season.


And when the game is on the line, and you need one defensive stop to get to OT, and you can't do it. Yea, that is on the players.

So yea, while Anderson has his flaws, this absolutely goes more on the players than in does on coaching

Sorry Norm.

Coach is responsible for motivating players, especially with your #1 out.

Coach is responsible for not having players aimlessly weaving without a plan for what comes after that

Coach is responsible for shots taken by sub par shooters at start of shor clock

Coach is responsible for multiple possessions with little idea shot clock was expiring

Coach is responsible.... for the players he recruits, how they perform and the result at the end of 40 min

Coach is responsible....
 
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Mario post=447403 said:
Learned basic basketball at 10 years old. With 8 seconds on the clock or on any fast break STOP THE BALL! Don't let him dribble unimpeded the whole length of the court! Took the shot with 1 second on the clock. If you take him out of his stride this game goes to overtime.
40 minutes of hell couldn't even give us 8 seconds of purgatory.
 
Mario post=447403 said:
Learned basic basketball at 10 years old. With 8 seconds on the clock or on any fast break STOP THE BALL! Don't let him dribble unimpeded the whole length of the court! Took the shot with 1 second on the clock. If you take him out of his stride this game goes to overtime.

Last play was horrible but that’s not what lost the game.  Much like this one game is not what lost the season.  If we took it to overtime and won, the season would still be lost.
 
 
We played bad in every aspect of the game. Love CMA but it’s on him 
 
It wasn’t Smith, it was Mathis (at least one of them was).  Smith was alternating offense and defense with Stanley.
 
Pitt is a bad bad team. Even without Julian this should have been a comfortable win. This is our third coach in a row that has had decent talent but couldn't get the most out of them due to allowing absolutely terrible shot selection and no coherent offensive structure. If teams stop us from making the game a track meet we're in big trouble. 

We now enter Big East play with zero good wins and one terrible loss. Every other team in the conference aside from maybe Georgetown seems to be moving in a positive direction while we're stagnant. Had Anderson put together a tough non-conference schedule then his never losing season streak would have been in major jeopardy.
 
Whoever tipped off the board of Julian’s absence, I owe you at last a portion of that $2400 payout.

That line didn’t move from 8-1 for at least an hour after that nice fellow posted on here. 
 
Mug Costanza post=447418 said:
Pitt is a bad bad team. Even without Julian this should have been a comfortable win. This is our third coach in a row that has had decent talent but couldn't get the most out of them due to allowing absolutely terrible shot selection and no coherent offensive structure. If teams stop us from making the game a track meet we're in big trouble. 

We now enter Big East play with zero good wins and one terrible loss. Every other team in the conference aside from maybe Georgetown seems to be moving in a positive direction while we're stagnant. Had Anderson put together a tough non-conference schedule then his never losing season streak would have been in major jeopardy.
It still is.
 
Being clueless on the bench leads to cluelessness on the court.
 
The missed free throws are not on the coach but the poor substitutions, poor lineups, utter unimaginative offensive sets, poor preparation and non adjustments on what is happening is and that will eventually leak into every aspect of the game.

 
 
Monte post=447424 said:
mjmaherjr post=447416 said:
Merry fucking Christmas 
Mike you  may want to save that for after Thursday's game 
Monte I just got a call from New York State Contact Tracers. Anyone who was at this game is now under self quarantine for the horrible basketball we just saw 
 
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Again, I touched on it before, and said it in the game thread. This was the perfect game for Soriano. He was thriving on both sides of the court, he was constantly bodying his defender. The ball should have been put down to him. Every. Single. Play.   

You can blame the players for that, but as a coach…it’s your damn job to see a mismatch and EXPLOIT it. That’s your job. Tell your guards to get him the ball. 

That’s the game there. Talk about Champ. Talk about missed free throws. Talk about not doing a man/man press at the end (also on coach). Talk about not calling a play in a half court offense most of the game (also on coach). 

If we go through Soriano, this is a double-digit lead and builds his confidence moving forward. Instead you just sit there and let them do isos and weaves 20-something feet from the basket. Unbelievable. 
 
guinness77 post=447429 said:
Again, I touched on it before, and said it in the game thread. This was the perfect game for Soriano. He was thriving on both sides of the court, he was constantly bodying his defender. The ball should have been put down to him. Every. Single. Play.   

You can blame the players for that, but as a coach…it’s your damn job to see a mismatch and EXPLOIT it. That’s your job. Tell your guards to get him the ball. 

That’s the game there. Talk about Champ. Talk about missed free throws. Talk about not doing a man/man press at the end (also on coach). Talk about not calling a play in a half court offense most of the game (also on coach). 

If we go through Soriano, this is a double-digit lead and builds his confidence moving forward. Instead you just sit there and let them do isos and weaves 20-something feet from the basket. Unbelievable. 

I don’t see it.  Soriano had one of his better games today but he’s a below average Big East interior player.  Aside from being slow and unatjeletic, he has essentially one post move 

 
 
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Is the bookstore open this week ? I gotta return the St. John’s stuff I got my newborn nephews for Christmas. They should make their own bad choices in sports life without my influence 
 
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mjmaherjr post=447438 said:
Is the bookstore open this week ? I gotta return the St. John’s stuff I got my newborn nephews for Christmas. They should make their own bad choices in sports life without my influence 
Yes but now you will only get 10 cents on the dollar.
 
Boo Harvey post=447436 said:
guinness77 post=447429 said:
Again, I touched on it before, and said it in the game thread. This was the perfect game for Soriano. He was thriving on both sides of the court, he was constantly bodying his defender. The ball should have been put down to him. Every. Single. Play.   

You can blame the players for that, but as a coach…it’s your damn job to see a mismatch and EXPLOIT it. That’s your job. Tell your guards to get him the ball. 

That’s the game there. Talk about Champ. Talk about missed free throws. Talk about not doing a man/man press at the end (also on coach). Talk about not calling a play in a half court offense most of the game (also on coach). 

If we go through Soriano, this is a double-digit lead and builds his confidence moving forward. Instead you just sit there and let them do isos and weaves 20-something feet from the basket. Unbelievable. 

I don’t see it.  Soriano had one of his better games today but he’s a below average Big East interior player.  Aside from being slow and unatjeletic, he has essentially one post move 


 
They weren’t playing a BE team. They were playing a 3-7 team. He was playing the best I’ve see him play. Was getting the ball in the post no problem (when they bothered with that kind of stuff) and was feeling it defensively as well. The coach needs to recognize a weakness and exploit it. I don’t know how “you didn’t see it,” it was plain as day to me.
 
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