(POST GAME) (MSG) DePaul, Sat. Jan. 11, Noon, FSN (YES) / 970 WNYM

[quote="Brian3" post=371986]Good team win today. Love Dunn I’m the starting lineup, but we can’t afford he LJ and heron on the bench at the same time.

Have watched DePaul multiple times this season (never been the case before) and I’ve always come away impressed (Iowa and Texas tech particularly). Any win this season in league play will be considered a “solid” win. Hopefully the guys have some renewed confidence heading to Providence (who look like a completely different team now).

Glad people have brought up next season in this thread. Can’t help but be excited to watch a team with a season’s experience under the CMA style. Please correct any of the following as I haven’t done full research (and know nowhere else to talk in depth St. John roster potential lol)
Eligibility done: Heron, Rutherford
Capable of Grad transfer: Dunn (will have 4 academic years under his belt)
Guards: Dunn, Williams, mcgriff, posh, wusu, cole
Forwards: LJ, Julian, earlington, DC
Centers(not really but u get it): Josh, Sears, steere, Moore

Believe that is 14....and given the sentiment we are still looking to add for next year... have to assume the staff knows something...

Hope LJ stays, don’t think Dunn would want to leave, given the lack of PT we’ve seen for Steere could be telling, or we could just be underestimating the importance of getting your feet wet in the OOC portion of the schedule.

Let me know what your tea leaves say (I’m still enjoying this year- but like what we’re building)[/quote]

If LJ decides to return, the expectations will be unreasonably high. And of course I hope we get to see it.
 
[quote="thetux1" post=371990]The Figgy Floater needs to go[/quote]

Loved it last year, and now I hope I don't see it rest of the season.
 
[quote="thetux1" post=371990]The Figgy Floater needs to go[/quote]

It hasn’t been falling and it’s not pretty. But last year he hit them at a good clip. I agree that he needs to cut them back but I don’t think it’s a shot he’s incapable of making and with our team I don’t think we can afford for him not to take some of those shots.
 
[quote="Amaseinyourface" post=371992][quote="thetux1" post=371990]The Figgy Floater needs to go[/quote]

It hasn’t been falling and it’s not pretty. But last year he hit them at a good clip. I agree that he needs to cut them back but I don’t think it’s a shot he’s incapable of making and with our team I don’t think we can afford for him not to take some of those shots.[/quote]
Seems to me that lthe majority of his floaters came on drives down the middle of the key...this year he seems to be throwing up floaters from anywhere and at any angle...in any case, he is hurting us with his shot selection
 
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Here's what I don't like about the Figgy floater aside from the fact that it's not going in. He takes that shot instead of going hard to the hoop which he very rarely does. As a result, he's played about 120 minutes more than Heron & Dunn, but taken the same amount of free throws as Heron and 12 less than Dunn. He's got the athleticism to take it right at the rim and not settle for the floater.
 
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[quote="NCJohnnie" post=371996]Here's what I don't like about the Figgy floater aside from the fact that it's not going in. He takes that shot instead of going hard to the hoop which he very rarely does. As a result, he's played about 120 minutes more than Heron & Dunn, but taken the same amount of free throws as Heron and 12 less than Dunn. He's got the athleticism to take it right at the rim and not settle for the floater.[/quote]

His length helps him in so many ways but it hurts him going to the rim. He doesn’t have the body control through contact or the ability to change directions in the paint. He gets his momentum going forward and he pretty much has to go straight with long strides. It’s not easy to get passed help defenders like that, hence the floaters.
 
Based on his play he should return.Do not know what’s up with Steere ,maybe coach should say how he is coming along either way coach needs to bring in a capable big body who we star from day one
 
[quote="Jack Williams" post=371927]Refs saved DePaul from getting their ass beat by 20+. Seriously that game was teetering on the edge of blowout when the refs decided to slow the game down by calling a foul every 15 seconds. The slow pace let DePaul stick around, and our free throw misses didn’t help. But we got back on track with those.[/quote]

We are always going to get the short end of the deal when the refs call the games tightly, since we rely so heavily on our pressure D. Even when there’s little or no difference in the number of fouls called on each team. We’ve got to learn how to deal with it.
 
Didn’t get to watch the game today. It was great following it here and thanks for all the updates. Good to get our first conference win. Now maybe the kids can just go about their business and settle down. On to Providence.
 
Amaseinyourface wrote:
NCJohnnie wrote: Here's what I don't like about the Figgy floater aside from the fact that it's not going in. He takes that shot instead of going hard to the hoop which he very rarely does. As a result, he's played about 120 minutes more than Heron & Dunn, but taken the same amount of free throws as Heron and 12 less than Dunn. He's got the athleticism to take it right at the rim and not settle for the floater.

His length helps him in so many ways but it hurts him going to the rim. He doesn’t have the body control through contact or the ability to change directions in the paint. He gets his momentum going forward and he pretty much has to go straight with long strides. It’s not easy to get passed help defenders like that, hence the floaters.

Interesting way of looking at it Amase and you may well be right. But seems to me that he's not so tall that he shouldn't be able to move his body to avoid contact. I wonder if it's a question of needing to be stronger to absorb contact and still finish. That floater looks pretty when it goes in but it doesn't go in enough and he should get to the line more than he does. Not looking to be critical. Bottom line is both LJ & Heron are solid players who should be 15 points per game scorers. Given the fact that Dunn & Champagnie are giving us more than expected that may be enough for us to stay competitive in BE. 17 or 18 wins is doable and would be a big win imho.
 
[quote="MarkRedman" post=371971]We get killed on the boards and Steere is a DNP
Very telling[/quote]

Sears didn’t play a ton either. With Dunn and Williams getting so many minutes, and with the uptempo pace of the game, seemed like CMA wanted to stick with a smaller/faster lineup. Don’t expect Steere to see much PT the rest of the way. Not sure he’s a match with CMA’s style of play.
 
[quote="NCJohnnie" post=372007]Amaseinyourface wrote:
NCJohnnie wrote: Here's what I don't like about the Figgy floater aside from the fact that it's not going in. He takes that shot instead of going hard to the hoop which he very rarely does. As a result, he's played about 120 minutes more than Heron & Dunn, but taken the same amount of free throws as Heron and 12 less than Dunn. He's got the athleticism to take it right at the rim and not settle for the floater.

His length helps him in so many ways but it hurts him going to the rim. He doesn’t have the body control through contact or the ability to change directions in the paint. He gets his momentum going forward and he pretty much has to go straight with long strides. It’s not easy to get passed help defenders like that, hence the floaters.

Interesting way of looking at it Amase and you may well be right. But seems to me that he's not so tall that he shouldn't be able to move his body to avoid contact. I wonder if it's a question of needing to be stronger to absorb contact and still finish. That floater looks pretty when it goes in but it doesn't go in enough and he should get to the line more than he does. Not looking to be critical. Bottom line is both LJ & Heron are solid players who should be 15 points per game scorers. Given the fact that Dunn & Champagnie are giving us more than expected that may be enough for us to stay competitive in BE. 17 or 18 wins is doable and would be a big win imho.[/quote]
Agree on the floaters being for most part unproductive, but equal issue of concern to me is his reaching & fouling seemingly out of frustration at key times. We need him, so he must play smarter.
 
[quote="Monte" post=372008][quote="MarkRedman" post=371971]We get killed on the boards and Steere is a DNP
Very telling[/quote]

Sears didn’t play a ton either. With Dunn and Williams getting so many minutes, and with the uptempo pace of the game, seemed like CMA wanted to stick with a smaller/faster lineup. Don’t expect Steere to see much PT the rest of the way. Not sure he’s a match with CMA’s style of play.[/quote]

None of our Bigs were impressive today. Sears misses lay ups, Robert's can't shoot and Steere is the most gifted of them but has had a tough time grasping the plays CMA wants to run. Steere needs to become a team member rather than an outcast. I hope he gets it sooner rather than "see ya later".
 
[quote="Class of 72" post=372013][quote="Monte" post=372008][quote="MarkRedman" post=371971]We get killed on the boards and Steere is a DNP
Very telling[/quote]

Sears didn’t play a ton either. With Dunn and Williams getting so many minutes, and with the uptempo pace of the game, seemed like CMA wanted to stick with a smaller/faster lineup. Don’t expect Steere to see much PT the rest of the way. Not sure he’s a match with CMA’s style of play.[/quote]

None of our Bigs were impressive today. Sears misses lay ups, Robert's can't shoot and Steere is the most gifted of them but has had a tough time grasping the plays CMA wants to run. Steere needs to become a team member rather than an outcast. I hope he gets it sooner rather than "see ya later".[/quote]

Does anyone know what's going on with Steere? Always leery of transfers. Dude should have no problem getting some minutes.
 
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[quote="Johnnie Drama" post=372017][quote="Class of 72" post=372013][quote="Monte" post=372008][quote="MarkRedman" post=371971]We get killed on the boards and Steere is a DNP
Very telling[/quote]

Sears didn’t play a ton either. With Dunn and Williams getting so many minutes, and with the uptempo pace of the game, seemed like CMA wanted to stick with a smaller/faster lineup. Don’t expect Steere to see much PT the rest of the way. Not sure he’s a match with CMA’s style of play.[/quote]

None of our Bigs were impressive today. Sears misses lay ups, Robert's can't shoot and Steere is the most gifted of them but has had a tough time grasping the plays CMA wants to run. Steere needs to become a team member rather than an outcast. I hope he gets it sooner rather than "see ya later".[/quote]

Does anyone know what's going on with Steere? Always leery of transfers. Dude should have no problem getting some minutes.[/quote]

All I hear is that he plays soft as Carvel and uninspired when given a chance. That won't fly with this staff. Hate to see wasted talent but you can drag a horse to water but...........
 
Disappointing on Steere.

If its physical or lack of ability, that's one thing, but lack of effort when opportunity for minutes right in front of you is headscratching.

Like seeing Taurean Thompson glued to Hall's bench. Can't even get a minute.
 
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